OK, snwbnny, you do and think whatever, but if I can say one last thing, my original posting was because I was very upset about the destruction of our forest and the issue of closed or open land just came in with all of the debate. I am upset that people won't put forth an effort to take a look, they rather just think I'm a whack job or that I condone illegal activity. My main issue here is that the forest service people severely damaged our forest in the name of protecting it. That is not right or even within the limits of sanity. To top it off they created situations that are without a doubt booby traps, which is illegal and for which they can be held liable for should something happen to someone who is up there for whatever reason. And, by the way (everyone but motor vehicles can legally be there).
The Roy part of roynlorimoore just asked me to say that he's been in Wrightwood since 1949 and he says he could be wrong, but he doesn't recall any "no trespassing" signs in that area.
To everyone else on the forum reading this post: Roy is 65 years old and had his hip replaced 3 months ago. He says he'll gladly go up with anyone who wants to see for themselves.