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Offline Chuck

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« on: Oct 30, 10, 12:34:38 PM »
We have an issue in Wrightwood/Pinon Hills and Phelan where people are not able to get new High Speed Internet accounts (even some Land Lines I hear).  Verizon is the provider of equipment that allows you get Verizon DSL, DSL Extreme, Linkline, AOL, etc.  The problem is that Verizon has not updated their equipment to provide DSL for those needing it now, via Verizon or competitors that can offer it.

High Speed Internet is not a luxury as it once was, it is a necessity for doing business, school research, on line college classes, etc..  I'm sure Verizon probably promotes (like all other companies) handling any issues via internet rather than on the phone.  How often have you reached a live person to help you with issues.  Most often you are told to trouble shoot on line.

The problem
You are placed on a wait list until someone cancels or moves freeing up a line.  This is  unacceptable.  DSL Extreme cannot give it to you, AOL cannot give it to you, all because Verizon has not updated their equipment to provide it (and all go thru Verizon).  No one else can do this, Verizon is our provider, exclusive to our area (or a monopoly by not updating making it available thru them or via competition). 

We will be contacting Verizon and the Public Utilities Commission on this to get it corrected.  Please PM me your Verizon experience or problems to aid us correcting this problem.

High Speed Internet was part of the Stimulus program to get outlying areas much need service.  We are not in the boondocks.  Ours is an issue of Verizon just providing the service they should provide.

This is an item that will be on the MAC agenda until it is corrected.

Who can operate without High Speed Internet? 

 

       

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Re: Verizon DSL and Land Line issues
« Reply #1 on: Oct 30, 10, 03:07:37 PM »
Chuck,

My son moved his family to Pinon Hills about a month ago and they are having the same problem.
It is very frustrating because there are on-line classes they need access to. Like you mentioned, it is not a luxury.
They asked if they could be put on a waiting list but were told "No". End of story!

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Re: Verizon DSL and Land Line issues
« Reply #2 on: Oct 30, 10, 04:43:20 PM »
I was also told that there were no Verizon landlines available in Pinon Hills right now.  I was not offered to get on a list, but rather the representative took my name and said she would check periodically and call me if anything opened up.  I have not heard anything yet, though it's only been a week.  When talking to her, I didn't get the feeling that I would actually hear back from her.

As to Internet service, I have an appointment on Friday with Desert Wireless to install an antenna on a house in Pinon Hills.  Hopefully that will work.  Of course that is not an option in Wrightwood.




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Re: Verizon DSL and Land Line issues
« Reply #3 on: Oct 30, 10, 05:07:17 PM »
nevermind...probably best I don't say anything.

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Re: Verizon DSL and Land Line issues
« Reply #4 on: Oct 30, 10, 05:25:47 PM »
Does WW have too many trees to set up a dish like Hughes Network?  I had some friends who had it in a very rural area until their local phone provider finally offered up DSL. I thought about getting it when I lived in Aliso Canyon just outside of Acton.  There was DSL on both sides of me but the phone company was too cheap to put a 1/4 mile connection in between two boxes so we were screwed.  They may have fixed it by now.

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Re: Verizon DSL and Land Line issues
« Reply #5 on: Oct 31, 10, 10:17:19 AM »
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"I was also told that there were no Verizon landlines available in Pinon Hills right now."

Cathy,
I wonder what's up with that? My son got a landline in Pinon Hills a week ago!

Offline Chuck

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Re: Verizon DSL and Land Line issues
« Reply #6 on: Oct 31, 10, 11:26:35 AM »

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Re: Verizon DSL and Land Line issues
« Reply #7 on: Oct 31, 10, 12:15:46 PM »
Looks like even Mount Everest will have better internet service than us ::):
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/29/mount-everest-now-wired-for-internet-ready-for-starbucks/

I have not witnessed or read of Verizon doing any upgrading of their equipment up here, but I notice they keep raising the fees that they charge for their services. Their customer support is an abomination,  the way they market and sell their services borders on the amoral and yet they still get to be profitable because they are the only game in town. The PUC has definitely dropped the ball on Verizon and they need to be told by large numbers of us that the way Verizon is treating us and providing inferior service is totally unacceptable.

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Re: Verizon DSL and Land Line issues
« Reply #8 on: Oct 31, 10, 01:36:09 PM »
I will first start I really dont have first hand info but its my understanding that the County wants Verizon to pay a "fee" to dig up the roads to lay fiber optic lines so we can get DSL and FIOS.  Verizon doesnt want to pay it so the County is stopping them from moving forward. 

Im wondering if anyone could verify this and if so, who should pay for the upgrade?

Offline Joe Schmoe

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Re: Verizon DSL and Land Line issues
« Reply #9 on: Oct 31, 10, 03:55:49 PM »
I think this would be a good place to gain an understanding from folks in your position: http://www.dslreports.com/forums/all

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Re: Verizon DSL and Land Line issues
« Reply #10 on: Oct 31, 10, 06:41:31 PM »
Chuck

It's Halloween and this might scare you.  I agree with you.

Offline Leftfield

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Re: Verizon DSL and Land Line issues
« Reply #11 on: Nov 01, 10, 10:54:57 AM »
Im wondering if we need to resort to a class action suit to resolve all this.   >:(

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Re: Verizon DSL and Land Line issues
« Reply #12 on: Nov 01, 10, 12:24:25 PM »
Supply and demand, I live off the hill, for about a 1/2 mile radius around my house is Verizon FIOS, on everypole everywhere, but, on the two streets I border, the one behind me and my street. When I asked the area super why, he never called me back, I asked a FIOS installer and said the idea didnt go as planed and not enough people orders the FIOS so they stopped construction on the last two streets. It is not we have slum on the street, ours has about the most high priced units around. Is  housing track was in the process, and 1200 homes were being built, yes they would do it. A dozen or so no they wont.

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Re: Verizon DSL and Land Line issues
« Reply #13 on: Nov 04, 10, 11:38:32 AM »
And of course we bennefit from the stupid overlay area code also

Offline Chuck

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Re: Verizon DSL and Land Line issues
« Reply #14 on: Nov 04, 10, 12:51:05 PM »
Trying to have conversation with Verizon is ridiculous.  It' really best to handle complaints via internet :o  Drives me nuts to wait on line a long time then to hear, another 10 minutes.

I filed a complaint with the CPUC.  Wish me luck!   

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Re: Verizon DSL and Land Line issues
« Reply #15 on: Nov 04, 10, 05:01:50 PM »
Best of luck Chuck!..How 'bout forwarding the info so I can make a complaint too. 

BTW, Verizon sent me an email saying we will get FIOS "....when technology improves."

So I made a reply and questioned what happens if technology NEVER improves for FIOS.  Their reply was "...then you dont get FIOS."

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Re: Verizon DSL and Land Line issues
« Reply #16 on: Nov 04, 10, 05:48:25 PM »
My complaint was a general complaint to the CPUC. 

Like so many things, the squeaky wheel gets the grease.  More complaints, the more attention we will get.

https://ia.cpuc.ca.gov/cimsapp/

Verizon's attitude of "tuff luck" is not acceptable.  File a complaint.       

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Re: Verizon DSL and Land Line issues
« Reply #17 on: Nov 04, 10, 09:30:21 PM »
I submitted my complaint saying that this town needs FIOS...  Come on everyone, maybe if enough of us do this we will get it!

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Re: Verizon DSL and Land Line issues
« Reply #18 on: Nov 04, 10, 09:56:21 PM »
It might be helpful for some of you to know a little history on why Wrightwood has DSL.

DSL in Wrightwood:
On Aug 10, 1999 the web page below was setup and sent to everyone we knew, requesting their assistance.
Each person was asked to send a quick email to GTE requesting DSL service to be established in Wrightwood.

http://www.ryanqc.com/wwdsl.htm

On Mar 1, 2000 GTE accepted the first order for DSL service in Wrightwood.

On Mar 15, 2000 the first 2 DSL connections in Wrightwood were online, while Cities like Anaheim hadn't even been considered for DSL.

Wrightwood wasn't lucky to be one of the first communities in the area to have DSL - We worked the system very hard to accomplish our goal!

Here's more:
http://www.wrightwoodcalif.com/forum/index.php?topic=476.0

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Re: Verizon DSL and Land Line issues
« Reply #19 on: Nov 04, 10, 10:07:54 PM »
And "hard work" has created so much more...

While on patrol last weekend, I ran into a police officer in Orange County that is using Wrightwood as his model for getting his city prepared for disaster.  Wrightwood's reputation goes far beyond anything you can imagine.

 

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