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Public Forums => Radio Talk => Topic started by: RobertW on Sep 03, 09, 06:49:37 PM
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Thought I'd start a thread posting some of the HAM Repeaters and Frequencies in use in our Area of Southern California even if they can't be accessed from Wrightwood. Below is a list I have programmed into my radios. Feel free to make corrections or add your favorites. I've tried to limit the list to "Open" or "Friendly" repeaters.
Freq Offset Tone Name
2 Meter:
147.240 + 91.5 KW6WW
145.280 - 131.8 TableMtn
145.240 - 118.8 Heaps
146.115 + 118.8 Victvl 1
147.120 + 146.2 Victvl 2
146.940 - 91.5 Ouartzit
146.385 + 146.2 KellerPK
146.850 - 146.2 Crestlne
147.330 + 131.8 BigBear
145.180 - 156.7 Pasadena
146.820 - OnyxPeak
147.120 + Verdugo
146.940 - 131.8 Disney
146.925 - 114.8 Santiago
145.320 - 114.8 TRW
145.380 - 100.0 PalosVrd
147.090 + Catalina
147.150 + 131.8 JPL-Pasd
147.270 + 156.7 Mt McDill
147.700 - 114.8 OatMtn 1
147.765 - 131.8 SantaAna
146.730 - 100.0 Hauser
147.735 - OatMtn 2
146.910 - 136.5 Chatswth
146.050 WSimplx1
145.520 WSimplx2
145.550 WSimplx3
147.525 WSimpTac
147.540 ECSSmplx
147.195 + 141.3 CyNDECS (Victorville)
145.150 - 100.0 BakerFld
147.705 - 167.9 Running Springs
Rx 144.930 KW6WW Portable Emergency Repeater
Tx 147.585 (split offset)
Tone 100.0
220 MHz:
224.400 - 91.5 KW6WW
222.140 WWSmplx1
223.960 - 156.7 TableMtn
224.480 - 100.0 FrostPk
223.840 - VicCondr
224.480 - 110.9 CntPoint
224.080 - 156.7 JPL-CrNg
224.700 - 114.8 JPLDwnTn
224.940 - 94.8 MtWilson
224.300 - 100.0 MtDisapt
223.980 - 103.5 JohstnPk
224.840 - 151.4 Sunset
224.280 - 107.2 SntaAnta
224.120 - 151.4 WhitHils
224.420 - 110.9 Catalina
223.760 - 110.9 SierraPk
224.260 - 110.9 RimForst
224.860 - 77.0 Crestlin
224.560 - 100.0 TwinPks
224.820 - 156.7 SntgoCdr
223.940 - 141.3 LyonsCdr
224.180 - 156.7 ToroCdr
224.260 - 156.7 PinHills
224.040 - 156.7 Barstow
440 MHz:
445.240 - 127.3 KW6WW
445.200 - 103.5 JPL-CrNg
447.200 - 94.8 TableMtn
447.020 - 71.9 KellerPk
449.700 - 141.3 Quartzit
447.320 - 136.5 FntRACES
447.200 - 131.8 RanRACES
449.500 - 192.8 JunpHlls
446.400 - 162.2 BigBear
449.500 - 100.0 SunstRdg
447.000 - 136.5 Hesperia
445.200 - 123.0 Palmdale
445.600 - 118.8 LomaLnda
445.600 - 100.0 Palmdal2
445.620 - 141.3 Apple Valley
445.660 - 173.8 Lancastr
445.680 - 100.0 KR1IS
445.920 - 136.5 HighDsrt
448.900 - 162.2 Victorville (Winsystem)
449.020 - 127.3 CtyWhite
449.380 - 156.7 PAPA
447.*** - 141.3 Apple Valley (Coming Soon)
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Whew! Thanks very much from us backsliders, who have our Ham license, would like to be ready to use Ham radio if necessary, but need a central reference for things like this because I keep losing my lists (and haven't programmed my radio very often yet)!! :laugh:
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Oh Goody!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I've been working on transferring my VX-150 2M repeaters to another program, so I can use it to program the FT-7800. Now I can all some 440 Mhz repeaters as well as listen in to some 220 units.
N4MAN
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You can also add these frequencies:
2 meter
145.550 WSimplx3
147.540 N Desert ECS Simplx
Pending KW6WW Wrightwood repeater
220 MHz
222.140 WSimplx1
Pending KW6WW Wrightwood repeater
440 MHz
445.680 - 100.0 KR1IS Repeater Victorville-Adelanto
449.700 - 141.3 Quartzite
Pending KW6WW Wrightwood repeater
HF
3.9875 WHF 80 meter
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You can also add these frequencies:
I did.
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Thank you for adding 445.680 and 449.700 to your listings. I'm a control operator for both of these repeaters and they both cover Wrightwood nicely. Feel free to use both repeaters. 445.680 covers Wrightwood a lil better then 449.700.
Nick,
KN3ICK / WQHB653
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Saturday & Sunday I was able to get some good information via Keller Peak (on the Kenwood Tri-Band). Heard Clint stuck down the hill getting up to date information on how he could get back Saturday PM, before the evac. Had some good Hams getting Table info as well as calling me with information.
Most of this was from the 91 & Yorba Linda location, behind the hills.
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After "Wrightwood" and "Toolman" spent several hours of tweaking the repeater settings with some help from below, a friend of Toolman's with a $25,000 scope, and help from HAMs from Wrightwood to Apple Valley who helped in the testing, Wrightwood's own 440 repeater, KW6WW, sounds better than ever.
I've added it to the list of Ham Repeater Frequencies in the post at the beginning of this topic.
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Were is the repeater located and what is the coverage area?
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Were is the repeater located and what is the coverage area?
The purpose of the Wrightwood Communications Group aquiring their own repeaters here in Wrightwood is so that Wrightwood won't be as dependant on more high profile repeaters like Table, Keller and Frost, whose "footprint" or area of coverage is tremendous and covers a large amount of the population. It is hoped that the KW6WW repeaters will be able to provide communication for Wrightwood and adjacent areas in the advent of a major emergency, as there is no doubt that in a large emergency the more high profile repeaters, if working, will be completely jammed with traffic.
With that in mind and as part of design, the repeater is not sitting on top of Table or Frost. It currently and temporarily is positioned near the bottom of Heath Canyon. There are plans, that upon approval, it can be moved in the future to a little higher location and a little more East.
Because of its location and the propagation features of 440MHz in the mountains the "footprint" is not tremendously large. In testing we have good coverage up and down the Swarthout Valley to Big Pines, portions of the High Desert, into Apple Valley, Victorville, Hesperia and down to the bottom of Lone Pine Canyon. Interestingly in testing on Saturday it was usuable at Inspiration Point.
A 2 meter repeater is also in the works with an application in process and with KW6WW waiting for a frequency pair to be assigned.
As recognized by many agencies, Wrightwood continues to be the leader in community proactiveness in preparing for disaster.
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As recognized by many agencies, Wrightwood continues to be the leader in community proactiveness in preparing for disaster.
Boy that's a fact! :2thumbsup:
I just put 445.240 in my mobile :)
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but it looks like I'm going to have to drive to Wrightwood to use it.. Couldn't hit it from the hill here, and didn't really expect to.
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I think a 2 meter would serve the Wrightwood area well... I mean UHF gets absorbed by pine needles so with that said I think VHF would work a little bit better. The 445.240 repeater transmits well it's the receive that isn't so well. I will keep the repeater in my radio though.
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I think a 2 meter would serve the Wrightwood area well... I mean UHF gets absorbed by pine needles so with that said I think VHF would work a little bit better. The 445.240 repeater transmits well it's the receive that isn't so well. I will keep the repeater in my radio though.
Thanks Nick and do keep it programmed. We still have some tuning to do with the duplexer that should make an improvement in the receive. The last tune visitation was spent squaring away other issues. We did see a little tx getting into the rx on the anylizer and that can be remedied. It can still hear signals from Barstow and HT's from apple valley so that's not too bad. Given it's geographical location we're not going to please every body. If only we could get the pine needles raked up....uhmmmm. ;D
Yes we would do well with a 2mtr. and 220 wouldn't we. My lips are sealed on that issue until further developments. ;)
But since Robert W let the cat out of the bag.... The TASMA Committee reviewed 2 mtr. applications on the 14th. If my application was approved I will be notified via e-mail in a few days. Hard copy of approved application will follow. The 2mtr. machine will also be listed as open as is the current 440 repeater.
I have two 440 repeaters in the So. Bay area I manage and getting approval to co-chanel on the 5.24 pair was approved in less than 4 hours. That's basically how we got the 440 pair so quickly.
We'll make announcements as things progress.
73,
WB6K
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Any plans for a Internet Radio Linking Project?
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Any plans for a Internet Radio Linking Project?
Absolutely not
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I think a 2 meter would serve the Wrightwood area well... I mean UHF gets absorbed by pine needles so with that said I think VHF would work a little bit better. The 445.240 repeater transmits well it's the receive that isn't so well. I will keep the repeater in my radio though.
I noticed Robert W. has already amended the 2 meter section of the list, so this is an update regarding the KW6WW 2 meter repeater.
The TASMA committee had their quarterly meeting on the 14th of this month. My application was granted for KW6WW 2 meter pair of 147.240 + during the meeting. Many applicationswere rejected because applicants didn't do their homework. TASMA only approved RFC for three applications that day. I received formal notification yesterday that we have approved coordination and can go "on air" effective immediately.
TASMA meeting minutes can be viewed here: http://www.tasma.org/0911tag.pdf
As with our 440 repeater, the 2 meter will be listed as open when the new repeater guide book is published.
We have the equipment list identified and plan to assemble / purchase the components soon. We will make an announcment once the repeater is assembled and testing is complete. We anticipate to be on air sometime mid Jan. - Feb.
I will have our technician adjust the duplexer on the 440 repeater while he's up tuning the cavities for the 2 meter machine so that should relieve some of the TX signal slightly getting into the RX.
The 220 application is still pending and accepting donations for equipment ;D
WB6K
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That's exciting news. Hopefully we can hit the 2 meter repeater from Big Pines.
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So, is the KW6WW 2 meter repeater on the air yet? It's great to know that the group was issued a 2 meter pair. Oh, yeah this coming Sunday (the date being 11/22/09) the new KN3ICK 445.620 - PL:141.3 will be on the air in the afternoon! This is a open repeater for all amateurs so feel free to drop in to use the system. Eventually the 445.680 Adelanto and the 445.620 Apple Valley repeater will be linked together full time.
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So, is the KW6WW 2 meter repeater on the air yet?
No, as I mentioned in my post we need to aquire the gear and it takes time to order the repeater that will be built to our specs = 5 weeks delivered. I waited until final coordination before advising our board to purchase equipment mostly since the crystals are made to the frq. pair and aligned and thermal cycled for stabilty = two weeks.
The Sinclair duplexer cavities will take time to aquire as well = two weeks. When they arrive and installed with the repeater / controller they will be tuned to the high low tx rx in line with the antenna and coax for optimum efficiency in the operating environment.
Programming the Controller will add additional time.
As I stated in my post we expect to be on air mid Jan-Feb. at the earliest and could lead into March.
I filed my application in August and I am pleased that it took this little time to have it approved and I chose the pair carefully.
WB6K
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Well, be very careful while waiting for the equipment. TASMA will look to see if your system is on the air by a certain amount of time. If it's not on they will think it is just another paper repeater. There are a lot of paper repeaters in Southern California. And I'm sorry I must of skipped over your post stating that you where waiting for the coordination first before purchasing the equipment. I wish the KW6WW group luck with the repeaters. It's been fun with our two UHF repeaters.
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kn3ick,
there has been up front correspondence with the coordinating group about ordering equipment along with anticipated lead time.
TASMA has no issues with KW6WW as we've built one of the most reliable emergency communications networks around 8)
John - KG6ZEP
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Sounds good! :2thumbsup:
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Now, I'm looking at your list for repeaters and simplex frequencies. I see that you have 222.400 - PL: 91.5. I think that is a typo. If you go minus you would be outside of the ham band. ;)
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Knick,
I corrected it as it should have been 224.400 - 91.5 KW6WW
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Knick,
I corrected it as it should have been 224.400 - 91.5 KW6WW
Oops! Sorry.
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That's sounds about right. I can't to hear the new 220 repeater on the air.
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We are just getting equipment together and don't have it up and running yet ;)
That's sounds about right. I can't to hear the new 220 repeater on the air.
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Now to the KW6WW UHF repeater... I'm very impressed with the 445.240 repeater. The repeater seems to work really well in the desert at the top of the pass, the bottom of the pass and into San Bernardino. I was truely amazed that I was able to hear Christy, KB6LTY talking from San Bernardino near the 215 and University the other day. With all of these new repeater popping on the air in the Victor Valley and Wrightwood areas I think the valley locally is just about covered. If you can't get into the Wrightwood repeater you can hit the Adelanto, Apple Valley 440 or Quartzite Mtn 440 or vise versa. I love it!!
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Bump!
KW6WW 2 Meter Repeater is operational.
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Bump!
KW6WW 2 Meter Repeater is operational.
Would that be the 147.240 one?
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Yes... this one
147.240 + 91.5 KW6WW
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Thank God for a data cable and software... I can never remember how to program the stupid thing (function-control-shift-WHAT?).
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Thank God for a data cable and software... I can never remember how to program the stupid thing (function-control-shift-WHAT?).
Heeheehee...... I'll have to get my owner's manual out to do this one. I've only programmed in simplex frequencies before, no repeaters yet. This will be a challenge.... ;D :o
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For those of you who have the Kenwood THf6a Tribander, here you go....
VFO (B on right side) key
ENT (white key below 9)
Enter Frequency: 147.240
Notice the + shift is automatic
TONE (White 7 key) once or twice (either "T" or "CT" will do)
F (Blue F key or A key on right side)
Blue T SEL (same key as TONE or White 7 key)
Rotate knob until 91.5 is displayed
Push Silver Menu button to the right
Now lets save it to memory...
F (Blue F key or A key on right side)
Rotate knob to an open channel. (Black Diamond in front of the channel number is a used channel, clear diamond is empty.
MR (C Key on right side)
It is now saved to memory.
Now let's give it an alpha-numeric name:
F (Blue F key or A key on right side)
MN-f (9 key)
Rotate dial to desired letter and press Silver Menu Key to the right.
Rotate dial to the next desired letter and press Silver Menu Key to the right.
Imput what you like, say KW6WW2Mt or WW2meter.
Your done!
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If any one is interested in looking at the repeater specs. you may go here: http://www.advcommsys.com/krp5000.html
It is a crystal controlled transceiver which delivers superior audio capabilty and receiver sensitivity over solid state units. The transceiver also is thermal controlled for optimum performance. The crystals are manufactured specifically to our frq. pairs and take approx. 3-4 weeks to manufacture then sent to the repeater builder to install and align, which was some of our time delay along with our winter weather disrupting installation. The repeater also has a built in feature for battery or other back up power should the repeater lose ac power. Should ac power fail, there is no disruption of operation to the repeater as it will switch automatically to the 12 volt source connected to it.
The duplexer cavity set filters undesirable input signal to the receiver and transmitter giving us the capabilty to use one antenna. Two cavities filter the rx side and two cavities filter the tx side and are coupled to one "T" fitting that feeds the antenna.
The adjusting screws you see on top of the cavity set adjusts the rx freq. and tx freq. independantly to the input frq. of 147.840 and output frq. of 147.240. This is extremely important to tune the cavities correctly for optimum performance with all the connections in place.
You can see the Sinclair duplexer here: http://www.sinclairtechnologies.com/catalog/product.aspx?id=1151
You'll notice in the spec sheet these are not small cavities.
I've notified TASMA that the repeater is finally on air and for all of you to enjoy.
The 220 repeater is still a work in progress and is a different configuration as we were running low on funds to duplicate the expense for 220. In this case my friend at work will design the cavities and I will build them to save cost's unless we find a used set which is highly unlikely. The controller for the 220 is purchased as well as the receiver and transmitter gear and is being assembled by my friend who is gracious enough to donate his time and test equipment to align and "tweak" our repeaters.
There is still more work to be done on the 440 repeater (Vertex 7000) as well and that is to upgrade the duplexer we are currently using. We have found that the internal duplexer is not near the quality we had hoped for. It is more likely we can find a used set for 440 as it is far more popular than 220.
T'is all I can think of for now.... enjoy the new repeater ;)
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Heeheehee...... I'll have to get my owner's manual out to do this one. I've only programmed in simplex frequencies before, no repeaters yet. This will be a challenge.... ;D :o
The only difference is you'll have to turn on the "Tone" feature and let it know what Tone you are using. The repeater shift is usually automatic.
The instructions above may look complicated but the are very simple. Just follow the instructions and you'll have the new KW6WW 2 Meter Repeater programmed into your HT in no time. ;D
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Will all three repeaters eventually be linkable to each other or will they stay standalone repeaters?
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147.240 + 91.5 KW6WW
145.280 - 131.8 TableMtn
145.240 - 118.8 Heaps
145.440 - 136.5 Sunset Ridge
146.115 + 118.8 Victvl 1
147.120 + 146.2 Victvl 2
146.940 - 91.5 Ouartzit
146.385 + 146.2 KellerPK
146.850 - 146.2 Crestlne
147.330 + 131.8 BigBear
145.180 - 156.7 Pasadena
146.820 - OnyxPeak
147.120 + Verdugo
146.940 - 131.8 Disney
146.925 - 114.8 Santiago
145.320 - 114.8 TRW
145.380 - 100.0 PalosVrd
147.090 + Catalina
147.150 + 131.8 JPL-Pasd
147.270 + 156.7 Mt.McDill
147.700 - 114.8 OatMtn 1
147.765 - 131.8 SantaAna
146.730 - 100.0 Hauser
147.735 - OatMtn 2
146.910 - 136.5 Chatswth
146.050 WSimplx1
145.520 WSimplx2
145.550 WSimplx3
147.525 WSimpTac
147.540 ECSSmplx
147.195 + 141.3 Victorville
145.150 - 100.0 BakerFld
147.705 - 167.9 Running Springs
220 MHz
222.140 WWSmplx1
223.960 - 156.7 TableMtn
224.480 - 100.0 FrostPk
223.840 - VicCondr
224.400 - 91.5 KW6WW Soon to be installed
224.480 - 110.9 CntPoint
224.080 - 156.7 JPL-CrNg
224.700 - 114.8 JPLDwnTn
224.940 - 94.8 MtWilson
224.300 - 100.0 MtDisapt
223.980 - 103.5 JohstnPk
224.840 - 151.4 Sunset
224.280 - 107.2 SntaAnta
224.120 - 151.4 WhitHils
224.420 - 110.9 Catalina
223.760 - 110.9 SierraPk
224.260 - 110.9 RimForst
224.860 - 77.0 Crestlin
224.820 - 156.7 SntgoCdr
223.940 - 141.3 LyonsCdr
224.180 - 156.7 ToroCdr
224.260 - 156.7 PinHills
224.040 - 156.7 Barstow
440 MHz
445.240 - 127.3 KW6WW
445.200 - 103.5 JPL-CrNg
447.200 - 94.8 TableMtn
447.020 - 71.9 KellerPk
449.700 - 141.3 Quartzit
447.320 - 136.5 FntRACES
447.200 - 131.8 RanRACES
449.500 - 192.8 JunpHlls
446.400 - 162.2 BigBear
449.500 - 100.0 SunstRdg
447.000 - 136.5 Hesperia
445.200 - 123.0 Palmdale
445.600 - 118.8 LomaLnda
445.600 - 100.0 Palmdal2
445.620 - 141.3 Apple Valley
445.660 - 173.8 Lancastr
445.680 - 100.0 KR1IS
445.920 - 136.5 HighDsrt
448.900 - 162.2 Victorville (Winsystem)
449.020 - 127.3 CtyWhite
449.380 - 156.7 PAPA
447.*** - 141.3 Apple Valley (Coming Soon)
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Will all three repeaters eventually be linkable to each other or will they stay standalone repeaters?
Most likely not. We are discussing future remote bases for the 2 mtr. and 440 machines though. That's a long term project that will take additional coordination communications as well.
For now we need to focus on finishing what we have coordinated so far such as upgrading the 440 duplexer system and replacing the built in controller with an exterior controller with superior capabilities. The Cat-1000 controller on the 2 mtr. machine has a lot of features for expansion and we'll most likely go with the same or the RLC club controller for the 440 repeater.
As you know being a repeater owner yourself, this stuff isn't cheap and a single repeater system cost's more than many used cars.
Hope to hear you on ;)
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The Wrightwood Communications Group now has a completely portable 2 meter Emergency repeater that can be setup in minutes.
You should program this KW6WW Emergency repeater pair into all 2 meter radios.
The pair is a split frequency and not the normal 600 kHz Offset so you might need to dig out your radio manual.
KW6WWE
Rx 144.930
Tx 147.585
Tone 100
The repeater is not up and running at all times. It will be activated from time to time for testing of radio programming, exercises and of course during emergencies when needed.
The repeater frequency is included in the current masks used for software programming of radios in this area.
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I'm pleased to announce that as of yesterday, our 220 machine is finally on air. It will be up and down as we finish programming and installing the antennas in their fixed location. I believe we missed the publishing deadline for it being listed in the ARRL repeater handbook but it will be listed in other locations and on the SMA coordination page after the probation period is completed.
224.400 - pl.91.5
enjoy,
WB6K
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That is great!! I will get it programmed into my 220 radio. Thanks for the info on the new repeater.
Nick
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There is a new UHF repeater in Phelan on 445.900 - PL: 146.2. This is a open repeater for all amateurs. This repeater is owned by N6RPG Ted. The repeater is located at his home QTH. We have the repeater temporary setup so the coverage will get better in the near future!!
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Hello....Would like to reply to the forum message listed as
HAM Repeaters and Frequencies in the Area
I have a 220 repeater in the San Bernardino mountains on 224.560 - offset and a PL of 100...This repeater is very often excluded from many of the list I have seen here on the forum....
In the listing I see Rim Forest and Crestline listed...Well my repeater sits right between these two repeaters, so guess I should be included?
I cannot get into the Wrightwood 2 meter 220 or 440 repeaters from my qth, but I would not exclude them from a list of local repeaters as I may have a need to use them when I am in the Wrightwood area....
I have hams using my system from Fountain Valley, Long Beach, Ontairo, San Bernardino, and many parts of the High Desert....Today I had a qso with a ham in Ontairo Ca and Hemet Ca.
Please make note of my repeater and give it a try...It is wind and solar powered and has a 500 ah battery bank....It will be avaliable during a local emergency....
Get your 220 radio out and give my repeater a try..
Thanks and 73 Mike WA6TJQ Twin Peaks, Ca
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Thanks Mike for the repeater info!
I'll give it a try tomorrow...
John KG6ZEP
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Sorry John
I should have put my glasses on and tried to read the fine print
in your repeater listing message post...It clearly states...
some of the HAM Repeaters and Frequencies in use in our Area of Southern California even if they can't be accessed from Wrightwood.
Anyway I was in error as it looks as if you still have other
repeaters to list....Please make sure my 220 repeater is added to the list you are working on
My system is on 224.560 with a minus offset and a PL of
100 in Twin Peaks, Ca between Lake Arrowhead and Crestline.
I tried to hit the Wrightwood 220 repeater from my location in
Twin Peaks, but so far nothing...I will try it on a better antenna soon.....I understand you are running two Alinco DR235 mobile rigs.....I am planing the same design on a future repeater....
Again sorry for my error on reading your repeater listing...I will wear my glasses from now on...
73 Mike WA6TJQ
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Mike's repeater has some great coverage in the San Bernardino Valley and the High Desert towards the Antelope Valley!!
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Thanks for the invite, Mike!
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I tried Mike's repeater from my location in Wrightwood yesterday and was not successful :(
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The Twin Peaks 220 repeater has been added to the list at the top of the topic.
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The Condor Victorville/Quartzite Mt 220 repeater has a pl of 156.7
currently its not linked into the system.
but working.
thanks!!
Christy
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That link has been broken for quite some time. Does anyone have insight on why it's been down and if they intend to link it back up?
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That question should be asked to Gil, K7GIL. The link is broke. That is what I heard from one of Gil's buddy's. The other thing is Gil, would need assistance with the repeater on Quartzite because of health issues. We are very lucky to have a guy like him around because he also takes care of the Victor Valley 2 meter repeater on Quartzite Which does not even belong to him. The 146.940 repeater was at his house after being down for about a couple days. He has the replaced the controller and I think he is getting ready to install it back on Quartzite Mountain. As of today I heard Gil come up and he said the repeater would be down for a few hours and that was about at 10am this morning. If I get a chance I will ask him about the Victorville Condor 220 repeater.
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Thanks for the info Nick.
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Hi all! Well, we have the KI6IES 2 meter repeater on the air in Adelanto. Ian, the owner is still working on the duplexer. The repeater is currently outputting 25 watts on a GP-9 antenna and the Receive is on a Mobile antenna until we get the duplexer. The repeater frequency is 146.025+ PL:91.5. The repeater is linked to Echolink to the KR1IS repeater also in Adelanto on 445.680 - PL: 100.0. Let us know if you can hear the new 2 meter repeater!
Thanks,
Nick KN3ICK
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I was just checking the Southern California repeater list put out by the JPL Amateur Radio club, and noticed that neither KW6WW 2M repeater is currently listed. Same for the 220 and 440 repeaters.
The website doesn't have a "last updated" date that I could find, but I thought it curious that some of our local repeaters are not on the list.
Here's the link if you would like to check it out:
http://rptrlist.w6jpl.ampr.org/
Matt/N4MAN
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Update to my post above...
WRT the KW6WW E portable emergency repeater, there is a listing for the 147.585 input, but it stated "Portable rptr. input, not for simplex use". Only the input is listed, not the fact that is is a split repeater, or the PL tone. It also doesn't list the repeater trustee.
As I was going through my programming lists this morning, I noticed many repeaters on my lists that were not on this website. It's still a good reference, as I did find many errors in my lists.
73
Matt/N4MAN
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The short version to your question is: I don't know. :-\
My best guess is from the time I submitted applications for the KW6WW Repeater Group 2mtr, 220 & 440 respectively, to the time the committees reviewed the applications and granted a test period, to the time of final approval, we missed the publishing date for repeater directories. I'm not sure were the JPL site acquires their information, but some sites rely on the published paper back lists. I also don't know why the coordination web sites are not updated. I looked through my documents to give an accurate answer and I was given final coordination notices from TASMA and SCRRBA between the month's of May & June 2010 for the 2mtr. and 440 repeater. I was given written approval of coordination for the 220 repeater in Jan 09.
We are technically still in the test grace period for the 220 repeater as we had weather and technical difficulty with the 220 system. There is another repeater owner group meeting coming up this month with all the coordination groups being present and possibly after the meeting, they may update their websites. I believe I will be notified by SMA and given final approval for the 220 repeater after that meeting.
The system works like this, you fill out a very detailed application and mail it in. Whenever they assemble themselves and review the application (which takes months) they will notify you if your application is accepted or not. If accepted, there is what they call a testing grace period of approx. 90 days. Once the test grace period is completed, they will notify you of "final" coordination. Sometimes you aren't notified for months after the "grace' period. It's a slow long drawn out process.
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Most likely not. We are discussing future remote bases for the 2 mtr. and 440 machines though. That's a long term project that will take additional coordination communications as well.
For now we need to focus on finishing what we have coordinated so far such as upgrading the 440 duplexer system and replacing the built in controller with an exterior controller with superior capabilities. The Cat-1000 controller on the 2 mtr. machine has a lot of features for expansion and we'll most likely go with the same or the RLC club controller for the 440 repeater.
As you know being a repeater owner yourself, this stuff isn't cheap and a single repeater system cost's more than many used cars.
Hope to hear you on ;)
you own one? you built it? where is it? :2thumbsup:
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The Twin Peaks 220 repeater has been added to the list at the top of the topic.
These (http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=34.31792,-117.85309&z=11&t=T&marker0=34.31785%2C-117.93162%2C2.4%20km%20NW%20of%20San%20Gabriel%20Mountains%20CA) Twin Peaks? I didn't see a tower there. If there is one there seems like a good spot if you need to have visual contact with a tower. btw do you need to have visual contact with a tower to transmit?, or work properly?
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is there a map pinpointing all the repeaters in the ANF? and surrounding areas? I've seen the list that Robert W posted and I guess I could search for the peaks that he has listed but there is one in pasadena listed. anyone seen a map of them? thanks.
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There is a new repeater on the air in Adelanto on 2 meter! 146.025+ PL: 91.5 KI6IES/R. This repeater is a open repeater and is linked to the KR1IS repeater in Adelanto on 445.680 - PL: 100.0 via Echolink.
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Is anyone able to hit the Table Mountain 2 meter repeater from Orange County? No luck here with a chimney mounted J-Pole antenna. Playing around with mapping programs, I see that the only line of sight obstruction between Table Mountain and my place in the hills of Orange is the ridge by the Blue Ridge dirt road.
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Brian, you may want to try a modest yagi pointed towards the Cajon pass. I'm in a worse vantage point than you are in OC and can hit it without running the amplifier. I don't point it directly at Table mtn. I bounce it through the pass. I'm not a big fan of Cushcraft antennas but they make a dual band yagi that works pretty good and is not as narrow beam width as a 20' M2 yagi such as on my VHF UHF tower. The Cushcraft doesn't have great back to front ratio or gain but it's a pretty decent yagi for the dough. It's model # A27010S
Or, I have another idea, get the ARRL antenna handbook and work out the formulas for building your own yagi. I made all my 440 yagi's and one 2mtr. from using the formulas in the book.
Then you'll need a rotor, rotor cable, coax and new mast mount. Best to do this installation during the day while the wife and neighbors are at work. Now that I've planted that seed, just add water. ;D
BTW, I think one of the questions on the new technician class pertains to bouncing signals. ::)
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Well, I need to go on the roof for sure anyway. Keller is now inexplicably coming in with more static, and I haven't done anything new with the J pole mounted on the chimney.
BTW, I think I got the exam question about bouncing signals wrong. ;D
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Brian,
Here's a pic of the Yagi Toolman mentioned. (I appologize for the orientation.) Actually 2 of them. One pointed to Baker, CA and one to Pahrump, NV with a GP-6 on top. All are mounted on a Penninger Tilt-up 32' mast. This was our (CPD CSV) Shoshone CP for the 2012 Baker to Vegas Challenge Cup Relay.
(http://thumb5.webshots.net/t/52/752/7/27/57/2626727570028807105ewzUTv_th.jpg) (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/582780752SlBNnG) Double click on thumbnail for larger picture.
Bob
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Here's a photo of what I've got now: a homebrew J Pole and a TV antenna (which is actually a miniature Yagi) underneath. So far the setup works well.
(http://www.kj6vzv.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/DSCF1140-reduced.jpg)
I'd like to be able to squeeze a Yagi (I don't care if I can't rotate it) in between the J Pole and the TV antenna, but I'm concerned the spacing would be too tight. Or on second thought, I could put it on the mast *below* the top of the chimney. Unconventional, I guess, but it would need to point down and left in the photo, approximately in the same direction as the edge of the roof. Height on the mast is not an issue as there are no obstructions in that direction.
Or do I instead spend the dough on a taller vertical antenna and hope that it's good enough to pick up any reflections off the Cajon Pass?
Or maybe just stick the Yagi out the upstairs window when I need to use it. ;D
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Well, I need to go on the roof for sure anyway. Keller is now inexplicably coming in with more static, and I haven't done anything new with the J pole mounted on the chimney.
BTW, I think I got the exam question about bouncing signals wrong. ;D
Brian, you may have gotten propagation questions wrong too ::)
Weather and atmospheric pressures can effect 2mtrs. drastically. When the humidity is high Table comes booming into the So. Bay. When it's warm and dry I can barely hear it for Sunday night net. I don't bother rotating the antenna, 'cause it's not going to help and neither will the 200 watt amplifier with the built in pre-amplifier
Tropospheric ducting can get 2mtr. SSB signals into Hawaii I've done it before and into Las Vegas and Phoenix as well.
Looking at your chimney mount, it would be a squeeze to get the yagi in there. But fortunately they are small and end of boom mounted. You could go another 5' on the mast and it would work in a fixed position. J-Poles don't have much gain but they are efficient. A Diamond base antenna possibly would do the trick but it's still omni directional. Go with the Yagi if your serious about hitting Keller or Table. The beam width of that Cushcraft may just do the trick for both repeaters.
good luck
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Brian,
Here's a pic of the Yagi Toolman mentioned. (I appologize for the orientation.) Actually 2 of them. One pointed to Baker, CA and one to Pahrump, NV with a GP-6 on top. All are mounted on a Penninger Tilt-up 32' mast. This was our (CPD CSV) Shoshone CP for the 2012 Baker to Vegas Challenge Cup Relay.
(http://thumb5.webshots.net/t/52/752/7/27/57/2626727570028807105ewzUTv_th.jpg) (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/582780752SlBNnG) Double click on thumbnail for larger picture.
Bob
(http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/49349/2626727570028807105S600x600Q85.jpg)
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I forgot to mention Brian, I have that same yagi mounted below my big M2 yagi and the 220 beam in the middle. The 6mtr beam is on top. I'll switch between the two for Sunday nets. Reason is, sometimes the narrow beam width of the M2 get's stronger signal path and better with a stronger receive and send signal. Sometimes the smaller Yagi works better than the bigger M2 so it's a crap shoot on propagation on that given day but I've got the rotational degrees set in memory on the rotator because I'll move it around looking for 6mtr contacts when the band is open. Same thing with my HF tower. I know exactly were to point for frequent Qso's. across the continents.
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Looking at your chimney mount, it would be a squeeze to get the yagi in there. But fortunately they are small and end of boom mounted. You could go another 5' on the mast and it would work in a fixed position. J-Poles don't have much gain but they are efficient. A Diamond base antenna possibly would do the trick but it's still omni directional. Go with the Yagi if your serious about hitting Keller or Table. The beam width of that Cushcraft may just do the trick for both repeaters.
I have a 10 foot mast in the photo. There's about 3.5 feet of that mast above the top chimney bracket, and 5 feet of the J-Pole above that. I'm concerned about adding more mast, as I live in an above average (for LA/OC) Santa Ana wind area. The number I've seen thrown around for maximum height (without guying, I'm not going there if I want to stay married!) is 10 feet above the top chimney bracket. Perhaps that's based on a worst case scenario of 10 feet of mast above that top bracket with a big, wind grabbing TV antenna on top.
Right now I'm thinking of seeing how the monoband Diamond CP22E <http://www.diamondantenna.net/cp22e.html> works out. It's about 9 feet long, though I haven't decided if I'm going to add 5 feet of mast or not. I don't mind taking a chance on it, since it wasn't too much $$, and if it doesn't work out, I can always bring it up to WW. ;D
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I ended up just getting a higher gain Diamond dual band antenna. Toolman is right, I would have needed a Yagi to hit Table from my location in OC. But I decided I didn't want to go through the trouble, at least at this point in time. Though now with the Diamond, at least Keller comes in with a lot less static.
Photos and more info here: http://www.kj6vzv.com/2012/05/18/raising-up-the-antennas/
In Wrightwood, I just have a J Pole on the roof of my garage which I hook up to my HT. It does fine for Table, Keller, and Wrightwood's 2 meter repeaters. Though I haven't tried simplex on 145.520 yet. I'll hear static at the frequency on my HT, then run out to the garage to hook it up to my antenna, and then everyone stops talking. ;D
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For those wanting to test their radios on the KW6WW Emergency Repeater #2, currently online.
The frequencies are:
Receive: 144.930 MHz
Transmit: 147.585 Mhz
PL tone of 91.5
These are TASMA-specified frequencies, and note that they are not the standard 600 KHz offset. This is known as a Split-Frequency pair.
(TASMA is the frequency-coordinating agency in Southern California http://www.tasma.org/ )
KW6WW has two emergency repeaters, both have the same frequency pair, Emergency Repeater #1 PL tone is 100.
The International Space Station (ISS) also uses a Split-Frequency pair, when astronaut amateur operators are making ground contacts with us regular folk!
It would be a good idea to set up your radio early for use of both these repeaters when necessary. I helped activate the Emergency Repeater #2 earlier this morning, and verified I can connect to it with all of our mobile and handheld units.
73
N4MAN
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Two local simplex frequencies are being changed effective Feb 2, 2014 to comply with the TASMA bandplan
WW2 Simplex (old) 145.520 (new) 145.525
WW3 Simplex (old) 145.550 (new) 145.555
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Current Local Frequencies and Net listing
WW1 146.050 Simplex
WW2 145.525 Simplex (KW6WW primary simplex) (Net Sunday approx 6:40pm)
WW3 145.555 Simplex
WW2MR 147.240 + (Enc/Dec) 91.5 (KW6WW 2m repeater)
WWTC1 147.525 Simplex (TAC)
TableMtn 145.280 - (Enc/Dec) 131.8 (WR6AZN 2m repeater) (Net Sunday 6pm)
WW220 222.140 Simplex
WW220R 224.400 - (Enc/Dec) 91.5 (KW6WW 220 repeater)
TableMtn 223.960 - (Enc/Dec) 156.7 (WR6AZN 220 repeater)
WW440R 445.240 - (Enc/Dec) 127.3 (KW6WW 440 repeater)
TableMtn 447.200 - (Enc/Dec) 94.8 (WR6AZN 440 repeater)
WW2ME1 Rx 144.930 100.0 Tx 147.585 (KW6WW Emergency Repeater 1)
WW2ME2 Rx 144.930 91.5 Tx 147.585 (KW6WW Emergency Repeater 2)
(Emergency Repeaters do not operate at all times)
HF 80 meter 3.9875 (Net Sunday at 5:30pm)
HF 40 meter 7.235
CERT FRS Frequencies (Nets Sunday at 5:30pm)
Division A Ch 8 467.5625
Division B Ch 9 467.5875
Division C Ch 10 467.6125
Division D Ch 11 467.6375
Division E Ch 12 467.6625
Division F Ch 13 467.6875
Division TAC Ch 14 467.7125
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Due to recent events I am interested in getting my ham license. I learn better by hands-on use than reading a manual or study guide. I was looking to see if there are any group trainings or if anybody would be interested in training me as an individual. I would be more than happy to compensate someone for their time. I currently have two Kenwood handhelds, a Kenwood and Icom radios in vehicles. Also looking to purchase a base station for home. Please let me know if anyone is interested. Thanks
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There's no current classes scheduled in Wrightwood.
Here's a link for 2016 Tech and Gen classes being taught at the Fire Station on the Fairgrounds in Victorville. (http://www.wrightwoodcalif.com/ham/HamRadioTechClass2016.pdf)
For studying online, an excellent source is the QRZ.com website.
You'll want to study the Technician Exam Practice Test at this webpage:
http://www.qrz.com/hamtest/
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I recently renewed my Ham License and KI6PRC is good for another ten years. Thanks Jim Young for your assistance!
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Do we get a renewal notice, or are we supposed to just remember and figure it out? Mine will be coming up this summer.
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Do we get a renewal notice, or are we supposed to just remember and figure it out? Mine will be coming up this summer.
You'll get a "renewal notice" from the W5YI group and possibly other VECs, who will handle everything for a small fee.
Alternately, you can renew on the FCC website for free. Takes a bit to figure out ULS, but it's not hard.
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You'll get a "renewal notice" from the W5YI group and possibly other VECs, who will handle everything for a small fee.
Alternately, you can renew on the FCC website for free. Takes a bit to figure out ULS, but it's not hard.
Here is the link to the ULS (Universal Licensing System) on the FCC website. I registered about a year ago to change my mailing address. It was not very hard to do and I was also able to look up my license info as I could not remember when I had to renew.
Link: http://wireless.fcc.gov/uls/index.htm?job=home
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Thank you, Elk and lwt42. I believe my first (technician class) license was issued 8/1/08, so I still have a few months before I have to deal with it. I upgraded to General class in 4/09, but I think that the renewal has to be as of the date of original licensure. I'm not even sure why I upgraded to General, as I've never used any of the stuff you can do with that level. Just something I wanted to do at the time, I suppose.......
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Thank you, Elk and lwt42. I believe my first (technician class) license was issued 8/1/08, so I still have a few months before I have to deal with it. I upgraded to General class in 4/09, but I think that the renewal has to be as of the date of original licensure. I'm not even sure why I upgraded to General, as I've never used any of the stuff you can do with that level. Just something I wanted to do at the time, I suppose.......
You are able to look up your license through the same website and see exactly when your license expires.
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In the next 3-4 weeks we will be testing KW6WW Emergency Repeater #2 during the Sunday evening net.
The frequencies are:
Receive: 144.930 MHz
Transmit: 147.585 Mhz
PL tone of 91.5
These are TASMA-specified frequencies, and note that they are not the standard 600 KHz offset. This is known as a Split-Frequency pair.
(TASMA is the frequency-coordinating agency in Southern California http://www.tasma.org/ )
KW6WW has two emergency repeaters, both have the same frequency pair, Emergency Repeater #1 PL tone is 100.
It would be a good idea to set up your radio early for use of both these repeaters when necessary.
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On 9-13-20 & 9-20-20 we will be testing KW6WW Emergency Repeater #2 during the Sunday evening net (in place of Simplex testing).
The frequencies are:
Receive: 144.930 MHz
Transmit: 147.585 Mhz
PL tone of 91.5
These are TASMA-specified frequencies, and note that they are not the standard 600 KHz offset. This is known as a Split-Frequency pair.
(TASMA is the frequency-coordinating agency in Southern California http://www.tasma.org/ )
KW6WW has two emergency repeaters, both have the same frequency pair, Emergency Repeater #1 PL tone is 100.
It would be a good idea to set up your radio early for use of both these repeaters when necessary.
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I was keying up the KW6WW uhf repeater from my house in Palmdale but was weak or no one was monitoring.
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I was keying up the KW6WW uhf repeater from my house in Palmdale but was weak or no one was monitoring.
Checked it today and seemed to be working fine. Not much traffic on this repeater
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I was surprised to key it up from my place. I was digging through old stuff and stumbled on a UHF 6 element yagi and was seeing what I could key up that I couldn't in the past. The repeater is in town correct?
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Yes the KW6WW 440 repeater is located on Pinon Mesa in WW