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Public Forums => Hot Topics => Topic started by: Surfer_Dude on Jul 02, 21, 10:25:26 PM
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/victorvalleynews/permalink/4620727547971902/
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Still missing:
https://www.vvng.com/family-searching-for-missing-teens-from-apple-valley/?fbclid=IwAR2fQq-mdjuGG7LPQc3KQFzMEb4ZCjfjKwgnSOUXKKCCxIZ9HLbqa-rcJgM
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Hopefully these Facebook images work
(https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/207077747_127162309564545_4534610579231617340_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_rgb565=1&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=b9115d&_nc_ohc=p3tRAB6zT8sAX9kK8_-&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-2.xx&oh=479f4faf20657db90ae6e8b24a9d57a6&oe=60E52B28)
(https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/212204830_127162336231209_5105379332582772397_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=b9115d&_nc_ohc=Qxjk9Zlon1UAX-Lb1a_&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-2.xx&oh=ffa0d7ecbcf51ff7e422486812bac30a&oe=60E64C7F)
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This may be the missing young couple.
ncident: 02433 Type: Fatality Location: Angeles Crest Hwy / Mm 71.50 Loc Desc: BTWN MM 71.50 -MM 72 Lat/Lon: 34.367686 -117.787594
Detail Information
5:12 PM 2 [2] LASO 97 - 2 1144 PTYS INSIDE VEH
5:12 PM 1 [1] VEH ROLLED 1000 FT DOWN MOUTAIN
Unit Information
5:18 PM 3 Unit Assigned
5:16 PM 2 Unit Assigned
5:13 PM 1 Unit Assigned
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They have been found, unfortunately, deceased.
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Many years ago I almost went over the side about 500ft from those coordinates. I lost control on piles of cinders - at night it was very hard to discern them from the tar strip crack patching Caltrans does/did. The only thing that stopped me was a low berm that Caltrans created by putting asphalt over a dirt berm at the roadside. I stopped so close to the edge that I had to be careful exiting the vehicle - my wheels came to rest halfway up the berm. There's a long fairly steep chute there and only one small tree would have potentially stopped me.
There's now a guardrail there, but I can still faintly see the divots my wheels left in the berm beneath it. The guardrail does not extend across the entirety of the chute, I assume because that's the inside of a turn. That seems to be the pattern of Caltrans' guardrail installations. It's too bad these young people passed away there. I've given that spot many a long look...it's where the road almost got me.
I even have an ancient video of my skid marks taken the next day - roughly 20 years ago now. 180-degree spin and slid backwards/sideways into the berm:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51295804088_e0050d8b6e_o.jpg)
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A more precise location where the incident happened: 34.372109, -117.782230 : https://goo.gl/maps/Uw57b11sHbUJPwJZ6
https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2021/07/06/sophie-edwards-ethan-manzano-missing-in-angeles-national-forest/
It appears they left the road and just clipped the end of a low retaining wall on the outside of a gentle curve. I hate to speculate, but I have to wonder. Anyhow, it's unfortunate that the choice was made not to put guardrail there.
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I almost hit a big horn sheep at that same spot maybe 6 years ago. I had to break and swerve slightly. Fortunately I didn't lose control at all, but it was scary thinking how easily it would have been to go over the edge. So sad to see this.
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I've almost run into deer near there. Gotta remember to fight the urge to swerve. Brake hard, but dont risk losing control over an animal collision
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Tragic Apple Valley Missing Teens Found
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAaVKrXM3Jw