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Title: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Wrightwood on Feb 21, 05, 09:23:57 AM
Use this topic to post outages.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: ForestGal on Oct 17, 05, 06:15:16 PM
Wrightwood, do you actually keep this whole website running on a generator when your power is out?
I live a couple blocks west of the school - no problems here today.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Wrightwood on Oct 17, 05, 09:28:14 PM
Most of our website data is located on servers in Florida. That includes the forum, photos, weather data, livecam images and graphics.

The weather station, most livecams and now the Live Scanner are located in Wrightwood and require computers running to upload the information. When the power is out in Wrightwood the data stops uploading until power is restored or a generator is running. Because of today's weather it was critical to keep the Live Scanner and Weather station data available so the generator was fired up and provided the needed power.

Wrightwood, do you actually keep this whole website running on a generator when your power is out?
I live a couple blocks west of the school - no problems here today.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: ForestGal on Oct 17, 05, 09:49:12 PM
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: phoenixgirl on Oct 18, 05, 05:26:35 AM
Yes, thank you.  I think we don't ever say it enough.  This is truly an awesome website and forum.  It has helped me to learn more about my community and even meet more neighbors.  Kind of like it makes this small town, a bit easier to become a part of.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Wrightwood on Jan 02, 06, 02:02:39 PM
Please use this topic for outages only

The discussion about TV cable and satellite services was put into a new topic called:

Cable - Dish - Direct TV Outages
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: BikingBrian on Feb 02, 06, 05:49:14 PM
Are the phones in WW currently down?  I get a fast busy signal when I try to call into town from OC.  None of the locals have posted in over an hour, so I suspect that the locals can't dial out and that the local DSL is down also.

Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Moose on Feb 02, 06, 06:10:59 PM
Got the same from OC also, both landline and cell (call to Sprint customer).
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: BikingBrian on Feb 02, 06, 06:26:05 PM
Bummer ... I've got a phone controller connected to my thermostat so I can turn on my heat before I drive up the hill, but it's useless if I can't dial in!  Looks like I'll have to start a fire when I get there.....
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: RennMan on Feb 02, 06, 06:44:48 PM
I think that the phones are still down.  No answer on either the landline, or my wife's cellphone.

Hope all is well!
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: galth on Feb 02, 06, 08:32:50 PM
I've got the same problem - trying to dial Wrightwood from Sacramento to call my family results in a busy tone from my land line, and a "The T-Mobile wireless customer you have called is not avalible at this time" from my cell.  How stupid, they're Verizon customers!
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: wwpt on Feb 02, 06, 09:29:01 PM
 

   9:18pm, finlly got a buzz off my phone telling me it picked up signal...Heard there was a cable severed in Phelan that knocked out all the LandLine Com structure.
 
   First thing I thought of was that dam excavator in sheep creek at desert front clawing away....anyway DSL is up again after a 6 hour down time.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: ChattyCathy on Feb 02, 06, 09:33:32 PM
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: kew on Feb 02, 06, 09:35:18 PM
I'm in Phelan, a mile north of town. Our phones have been down also.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: budnett on Feb 02, 06, 09:56:04 PM
I too was wondering -would 911 have worked?

Anyone know?
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: ForestGal on Feb 02, 06, 10:00:09 PM
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: ChattyCathy on Feb 02, 06, 10:00:46 PM
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Chesslike on Feb 02, 06, 10:11:23 PM
I am not sure about 911, but you could call within Wrightwood on your landline, so you would have been able to call any 249 number including the Fire Dept. from within Wrightwood.

Added note: since all 911 landline calls from Wrightwood are processed through the Com Center down the hill, they would not have been able to be connected since all out-of-town calls were down.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: goatgirl on Feb 02, 06, 10:29:51 PM
I was unable to call Wrightwood on my landline. 
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Wrightwood on Feb 02, 06, 10:32:04 PM
An advance fiber cable was cut in Adelanto and effected Wrightwood, Phelan and Pinon Hills area. It took 4+ hours to repair.

During that time all cell phone, land lines and Internet connections were down. 911 calls would not work. The only communications in/out of Wrightwood was Ham radio or satellite phones.

SB County Fire Com Center did have a satellite phone in route to Wrightwood Fire Station this afternoon.

As of 10:30 pm Verizon reports that all phone service has been restored.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Wrightwood on Dec 15, 22, 01:06:27 PM
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Wrightwood on Dec 15, 22, 03:30:05 PM
Have not lost power Elm and Linnet
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Tom on Dec 15, 22, 06:22:17 PM
Never lost power Twin Lakes Dr. Below Oak.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: ForestGal on Dec 15, 22, 06:28:17 PM
Came back right after 6 on Edna near Acorn. 
 
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Wrightwood on Feb 23, 23, 12:46:39 PM
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Ultimate Internet Access on Mar 08, 23, 10:52:28 AM


   9:18pm, finlly got a buzz off my phone telling me it picked up signal...Heard there was a cable severed in Phelan that knocked out all the LandLine Com structure.
 
   First thing I thought of was that dam excavator in sheep creek at desert front clawing away....anyway DSL is up again after a 6 hour down time.

Spectrum backhaul is out, which Verizon uses as their tower.

--Wes
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Tursiops on Mar 08, 23, 11:11:52 AM
Called 611with wi fi calling.. Verizon said cell service is out and no projected time to be back
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: in my dreams on Mar 08, 23, 11:36:44 AM
T-Mobil/Mint Mobile is out as well.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: lwt42 on Mar 08, 23, 11:46:36 AM
I have a super-cheap VoIP line, which I only keep for backup.

It seems reliable enough.  No free long distance and pay by the minute, which is fine when a backhoe digs something up.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Ultimate Internet Access on Mar 08, 23, 01:14:01 PM
If you have UIA Fiber  :) just turn on WiFi Calling on your cell
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: tt2468 on Mar 08, 23, 01:35:36 PM
Incredible, AT&T down too. Kinda wild to me that all the carriers are using spectrum transit and nothing else. Must be one facility with all the carriers. Maybe they need to be using UIA or Frontier IP transit too :P
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: EQC on Mar 08, 23, 09:07:55 PM
I have a super-cheap VoIP line, which I only keep for backup.

It seems reliable enough.  No free long distance and pay by the minute, which is fine when a backhoe digs something up.

The Ooma device is pretty good for this purpose for us. Once you buy the device ($200 some years ago...under $100 now), the basic service is "free" -- you just pay the monthly government taxes and telecom fees of about $5, and calls within the US are free/unlimited I think. There are upgrades (for a monthly fee) and fancier devices and phones...but the "free" basic option has been reliable for us as our house phone for several years.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Ultimate Internet Access on Mar 09, 23, 06:04:01 AM
Incredible, AT&T down too. Kinda wild to me that all the carriers are using spectrum transit and nothing else. Must be one facility with all the carriers. Maybe they need to be using UIA or Frontier IP transit too :P

Yes, nowadays a provider should have two backhaul circuits. Even if you have to buy from the competition, nothing wrong with that.
There is a Spectrum Fiber cut measured from our office at 44,000 feet (over 8 miles) - They were looking for it last night.

--Wes
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: SkierBob on Mar 09, 23, 07:25:23 AM
Quote
which is fine when a backhoe digs something up.

"Backhoe fade" or "JCB fade" is a term coined by the telecommunications field to refer to accidental damage or complete severing of a communications cable ...

Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: lzuber on Mar 09, 23, 08:32:34 AM
Regarding the cellular / Spectrum outage:

An update on the cell phone / Spectrum outage for all who are affected:
Spectrum stopped troubleshooting last night due to icy dangerous conditions.  They will start troubleshooting again this morning between 9 and 10.  This is affecting all cellular in town T-Mobile, Verizon, A T and T etc.  The break is up 8.2 miles from Wrightwood.  UIA is still up and running because we have two circuits feeding Internet here in town.  If you have UIA,  use your cell phone to make calls by enabling wifi calling on your phone.
No estimate on when this will be repaired yet.  They are troubleshooting the issue and it takes time to find the break.  Conditions are certainly not helping.  I'll post more as I hear.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: lwt42 on Mar 09, 23, 08:40:04 AM
Incredible, AT&T down too. Kinda wild to me that all the carriers are using spectrum transit and nothing else. Must be one facility with all the carriers. Maybe they need to be using UIA or Frontier IP transit too :P
I've been trying to find the gate to the cell site and finding out who actually runs it.  I suspect Crown-Castle or American Tower, who then leases capacity to the three major carriers.

Aside from cost, the site owner could put in the necessary redundancy, but that's a cost, and it's not required.  Same with backup power, they don't seem to have more than a few hours.

I admire UIA for having redundant feeds (the Sheep Fire took out both, but they're planning on fixing that).
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: lwt42 on Mar 09, 23, 08:48:51 AM
The Ooma device is pretty good for this purpose for us. Once you buy the device ($200 some years ago...under $100 now), the basic service is "free" -- you just pay the monthly government taxes and telecom fees of about $5, and calls within the US are free/unlimited I think.

Main point being that you have something that does not rely on any one fiber, or any cell provider.

I use a company called VoIP.ms for service.  It's measured, but it's $0.85/month.  That's connected to a SIP adapter (Grandstream HT801), and that has a phone jack, and an ethernet jack.  The adapter supports pulse dialing, so I have a vintage rotary phone (it was a gift -- THANKS!).

I've seen what UIA has for backup power, they're staying up.  On my end, I have a good UPS for the internet/WiFi.

There are less technical solutions, but this was fun to put together.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Ultimate Internet Access on Mar 09, 23, 12:07:32 PM
I've been trying to find the gate to the cell site and finding out who actually runs it.  I suspect Crown-Castle or American Tower, who then leases capacity to the three major carriers.

Aside from cost, the site owner could put in the necessary redundancy, but that's a cost, and it's not required.  Same with backup power, they don't seem to have more than a few hours.

I admire UIA for having redundant feeds (the Sheep Fire took out both, but they're planning on fixing that).

Each of the Carrier's have a piece of the location.. Each of the carriers are responsible for their backhaul. They just bought one backhaul.  We have Fiber up there.. I will try to contact them again, but you can only lead a horse to water..

--Wes
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Ultimate Internet Access on Mar 09, 23, 12:12:07 PM
Regarding the cellular / Spectrum outage:

An update on the cell phone / Spectrum outage for all who are affected:
Spectrum stopped troubleshooting last night due to icy dangerous conditions.  They will start troubleshooting again this morning between 9 and 10.  This is affecting all cellular in town T-Mobile, Verizon, A T and T etc.  The break is up 8.2 miles from Wrightwood.  UIA is still up and running because we have two circuits feeding Internet here in town.  If you have UIA,  use your cell phone to make calls by enabling wifi calling on your phone.
No estimate on when this will be repaired yet.  They are troubleshooting the issue and it takes time to find the break.  Conditions are certainly not helping.  I'll post more as I hear.

Yes. There is a Fiber break 8.33 miles from as measured from our office in town. There is no obvious damage by just looking visually. It makes things quite a bit more difficult. But they have a method (Optimum working for Spectrum). It takes time to whittle it down when you can't visually see the damage.

--Wes
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: tt2468 on Mar 09, 23, 01:21:00 PM
Running an MTR to Cloudflare I see it's not going through the normal iBGP route which it normally does to get to Any2West. Instead, it's using Fronteir transit. I guess that probably means that UIA's dark fiber connection to Coresite LA1 is at least partially via Spectrum?
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: lwt42 on Mar 09, 23, 01:31:33 PM
I will try to contact them again, but you can only lead a horse to water..

If it was up to the technical staff, it'd be easy.  Budgets (and those who manage them) are the problem.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Ultimate Internet Access on Mar 09, 23, 01:31:59 PM
Running an MTR to Cloudflare I see it's not going through the normal iBGP route which it normally does to get to Any2West. Instead, it's using Fronteir transit. I guess that probably means that UIA's dark fiber connection to Coresite LA1 is at least partially via Spectrum?

We use both Spectrum and Frontier.

--Wes
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Bob C on Mar 09, 23, 01:49:23 PM
Look like ATT is back up. I suspect the others are, too
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Ultimate Internet Access on Mar 09, 23, 02:42:07 PM
Look like ATT is back up. I suspect the others are, too

Yes.

I am pitching the carriers up there again, lets see what happens this time.

--Wes
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Wrightwood on Mar 10, 23, 06:56:03 PM
Thanks Wes!
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: SkierBob on Mar 11, 23, 07:47:39 AM


OTDR - optical time-domain reflectometer    "FYI" lol



Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Wrightwood on Apr 03, 23, 03:57:45 PM
Had a brief power outage at 3:50pm (Elm & Linnet)
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: ForestGal on Apr 03, 23, 04:11:15 PM
On Edna near community garden too.  Long enough to have to reset clocks on oven and microwave. 
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Elk on Apr 03, 23, 05:28:49 PM
Had a brief power outage at 3:50pm (Elm & Linnet)
Same thing out here in the Big Pines/Jackson Lake area at the end of the feed line. Must have been the main feed in to WW.
Title: Landlines down-Big Pines/Jackson Lake
Post by: Elk on Aug 21, 23, 10:14:27 AM
Frontier landlines are out in the Big Pines/Jackson Lake area.
Title: Re: Landlines down-Big Pines/Jackson Lake
Post by: Elk on Aug 21, 23, 02:09:54 PM
Frontier landlines are out in the Big Pines/Jackson Lake area.

Phones have started to magically work again in the Jackson Lake area!

Thank god! Frontier is a nightmare when it comes to getting service out here.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Wrightwood on Nov 21, 23, 12:37:42 PM
Power is out (Linnet & Elm)
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: tt2468 on Nov 21, 23, 12:41:11 PM
Power out on Lodgepole, must be a big one!
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: EQC on Nov 21, 23, 12:47:00 PM
Power also out in the East Canyon area, above Lone Pine Canyon road.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: lwt42 on Nov 21, 23, 12:47:29 PM
Out on Lark & Acorn, also Mt. View and Edna.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Deadhead on Nov 21, 23, 12:47:38 PM
Out on Zurich and East Canyon too.  Nothing on the SCE website yet.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Wrightwood on Nov 21, 23, 01:01:08 PM
Customers Impacted: 2939
Outage # : 800280282
Last Updated: 12:38 PM PST Today
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Wrightwood on Nov 21, 23, 03:13:28 PM
Repair Outage
Unincorporated Area - Los Angeles County
Start Time: 12:32 PM PST Today
Estimated Restoration: Most up by 5:00 PM PST Today
Status: In Progress - Outage reported
Reason for Outage:
Analyzing Problem
Customers Impacted: 2697
Outage # : 800280209
Last Updated: 3:04 PM PST Today
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Wrightwood on Nov 21, 23, 03:22:40 PM
Supervisor Paul Cook

WRIGHTWOOD RESIDENTS
Multiple Southern California Edison (SCE) circuits have been experiencing power outages that are impacting the town. The cause is still unknown. Crews have been able to bring two circuits back online, and are continuing to troubleshoot the problem. For more information, please go to https://www.sce.com/outage-center/check-outage-status and subscribe to alerts.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: delta on Nov 21, 23, 03:23:16 PM
Power came back on around 2:50 on Evergreen Road. But it was still out at the library at that time.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Wrightwood on Nov 21, 23, 03:26:42 PM
Power restored (Linnet & Elm)
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: EQC on Nov 21, 23, 04:57:51 PM
Power came back up over on East Canyon about an hour ago.  Seems like the circuits might have been brought back on moving West to East through town...hopefully that's everybody now...
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: yodeler on Nov 27, 23, 09:39:40 AM
Is anyones power out near East Canyon. Nothing reported on SCE.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: kingfish on Nov 27, 23, 10:27:35 AM
Maintenance Outage - Scheduled
Unincorporated Area - Los Angeles County
Start Time: 11/29/2023 - 8:00 AM PST
Estimated End Time: 11/29/2023 - 4:30 PM PST
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Deadhead on Nov 27, 23, 10:29:49 AM
Power out at East canyon and Zurich.   No mention on the SCE website.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: EQC on Nov 27, 23, 04:56:29 PM
Today's is a maintenance outage in the East Canyon area.  I did NOT receive any physical mail about it, but I did get e-mail notification a couple of times within the last couple weeks.

Email notification titled it: Outage # 000800279058

The emails indicated the schedule was 9:00am-4:00pm, but it is now close to 5:00pm, and all the houses around me still look dark.

When I left home around 1pm today, I did see some big trucks working in the middle of Sheep Creek Road, with posted detour signs...not sure if that was the Edison crew, but I assumed as much.

*EDIT:
I put that Outage Number (800279058) into Edison's website (https://www.sce.com/outage-center/check-outage-status) and it now says the start was 9:30am, and the estimated end time today is 6:00pm, with 886 customers affected, for "upgrading equipment."  Last updated 5:09pm.


*Edit again:  That same SCE site also says there's another planned outage in Wrightwood for Friday, 12/1, scheduled for 8:30AM-1:30PM.  That will be Outage #800278443. Not sure what areas of town that will affect, but I (on upper East Canyon) haven't seen any notifications about it via mail or email.

With last week's unplanned outage, today's maintenance outage, the maintenance outage noted by kingfish above for 11/29, and this upcoming outage on 12/1, that's quite a lot for one small town in less than 2 weeks, and especially tough with the cold weather.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: EQC on Nov 27, 23, 05:35:48 PM
Power restored for me now on upper East Canyon.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: lwt42 on Nov 27, 23, 10:13:29 PM
With last week's unplanned outage, today's maintenance outage, the maintenance outage noted by kingfish above for 11/29, and this upcoming outage on 12/1, that's quite a lot for one small town in less than 2 weeks, and especially tough with the cold weather.

I know I'm a relative newbie (8 years), but I do question Edison's timing. 

Maintenance outages on very hot days, and when it's very, very cold.

I have a small generator that handles essential loads -- 'fridge, furnace and internet.  To minimize the total load, I use extension cords instead of a nice transfer switch.

I would (eventually) like a dual-fuel propane/gasoline unit because propane tanks are easy, run times are good, and you don't have to deal with old gas gumming up the carburetor.

Outages are frequent enough that some sort of backup seems worthwhile.  This cost less than $800.

The reason for all the maintenance outages is to harden their distribution and reduce the chance of fire.  Once they replace every pole with stronger ones, they'll change the lines to insulated wire.  That's worth some inconvenience.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: KW on Nov 28, 23, 06:40:18 AM
We just got an email notice yesterday for a planned outage on Wednesday next week. We are located on the west side of town about half mile past the school. I hope all this maintenance that they're doing keeps the power on when we truly need it.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: EQC on Nov 28, 23, 07:23:09 AM
I know I'm a relative newbie (8 years), but I do question Edison's timing. 

Maintenance outages on very hot days, and when it's very, very cold.

I have a small generator that handles essential loads -- 'fridge, furnace and internet.  To minimize the total load, I use extension cords instead of a nice transfer switch.

I would (eventually) like a dual-fuel propane/gasoline unit because propane tanks are easy, run times are good, and you don't have to deal with old gas gumming up the carburetor.

Outages are frequent enough that some sort of backup seems worthwhile.  This cost less than $800.

The reason for all the maintenance outages is to harden their distribution and reduce the chance of fire.  Once they replace every pole with stronger ones, they'll change the lines to insulated wire.  That's worth some inconvenience.

A notably more expensive option (but with additional year-round benefits too) --  we just added solar and a whole-house battery backup.  Solar just won't work for many places in Wrightwood due to the valley/hills and trees...but our location is decent-ish, so even with the reduced sun this time of year in our little valley, the solar/battery has kept the whole house running pretty smoothely during these last couple outages.

There was a winter a few years ago where a rain storm knocked out power for a couple days, and the weather got VERY cold (I think it stayed below freezing during the day during the outage).  Our only heat source was the small "gas appliance" fireplace, since the natural gas house heaters can't run without electricity, and we don't have any sort of regular/wood-burning fireplace built in. The family had a bit of an adventure huddling in the living room together, but that was also a good sign to us that a back-up would be good.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: lwt42 on Nov 28, 23, 10:11:38 AM
There was a winter a few years ago where a rain storm knocked out power for a couple days, and the weather got VERY cold (I think it stayed below freezing during the day during the outage).  Our only heat source was the small "gas appliance" fireplace, since the natural gas house heaters can't run without electricity, and we don't have any sort of regular/wood-burning fireplace built in. The family had a bit of an adventure huddling in the living room together, but that was also a good sign to us that a back-up would be good.

I remember the 31 hour outage.  It was raining when it started, then switched to snow about half way through.  I had my generator, and we did fine.  We also have a fireplace.

I have a couple of small UPSes, mostly to keep electronics up during the first hour of an outage.

My issue with solar and battery is charging.  It was pretty cloudy, and of course snow on the panels does not help.

I'd love a good whole-house backup.  Solar is pretty cool too. 
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: scwt on Nov 28, 23, 07:57:34 PM
Check Edison web site for rebates on generators, might help.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: lwt42 on Nov 28, 23, 09:08:18 PM
Check Edison web site for rebates on generators, might help.

Edison seems to be pushing portable "solar generators" and the ones that are big enough aren't cheap.

Mountain Hardware stocks the 2000 watt inverter/generators from Generac, if I remember correctly. 

The trick is knowing how much you need.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: scwt on Nov 29, 23, 07:29:26 AM
I got the big one from Costco and it can run my central AC, I have it wired to the house panel so everything is hot but you can't run everything at once.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: lwt42 on Nov 29, 23, 12:32:22 PM
I got the big one from Costco and it can run my central AC, I have it wired to the house panel so everything is hot but you can't run everything at once.
Generator capacity is something of a philosophy question.

Smaller generators have lower fuel consumption, more run-time, and lower cost, generally.  Also, easier to move (and easier to keep the exhaust away from the house).

I measured and found I need about 1000 watts.  My small portable is twice that, so plenty of margin.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Lepo on Jan 10, 24, 01:41:44 PM
Bump.
Another scheduled outage for 1-17-24 All day again. While I appreciate they are upgrading equipment and need to keep the lineman safe. This seems excessive.

Last year 2023 we had 7 scheduled outages:


6-9-23 ~ 11 Hours scheduled - 7AM - 6PM
6-12-23 ~8 Hours
8-28-23 ~ 8 hours
10-16-23 ~ 15 minutes
10-17-23 ~ 15 minutes
10-24-23 ~ 9 hours
12-6-23 ~9 hours


I think the 10-16 / 10-17 might have been reschedules and one might not have happened. I pulled this from the email notifications they sent out.


I don't think we had any scheduled outages the year before 2022.

Did something happen ?
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: lwt42 on Jan 10, 24, 07:11:42 PM
Did something happen ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Fire_(2018) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Fire_(2018))

52,000 evacuated, 85 dead.

As part of the deal limiting liability when power lines start a fire, utilities like SCE have to upgrade in high fire areas.

Stronger poles, then heavy insulated wires when the poles are in.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: AlwaysReady on Jan 14, 24, 12:30:40 PM
Get the duromax 13k or 15k dual fuel or tri fuel if you can afford it. The 15k tri fuel hooked to your natural gas with a transfer switch you can buy and have installed for less that 5k. 
Title: Frontier Phone Outage 1/22/2024
Post by: Elk on Jan 22, 24, 08:55:38 AM
Phone lines/landlines from Frontier are out this morning in the Jackson Lake/Big Pines area.
Anyone else experiencing outages from Frontier for landlines?
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Wrightwood on Jan 22, 24, 09:21:42 AM
Frontier phone line (landline) working at Elm & Linnet
Title: Re: Frontier Phone Outage 1/22/2024
Post by: Elk on Jan 22, 24, 04:36:50 PM
Phone lines/landlines from Frontier are out this morning in the Jackson Lake/Big Pines area.
Anyone else experiencing outages from Frontier for landlines?
Service was restored midday.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: EQC on Apr 08, 24, 10:11:55 AM
For anybody without power today:

SCE planned Outage # 000800310383.
I was notified by email, and my home is in the East Canyon area...not sure how big the planned/maintenance outage is.
Originally scheduled for 9am to 4pm today
Update email yesterday indicated 9am to 10am
But, it seems like the power outage may have started later than expected...I have solar so I didn't notice exactly when it went out, but I can tell from my phone app that I am still "off grid" now, as-of about 10:15 am.

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Checking the Edison outage link, they indicate power went out at 9:54...so assuming the work goes as planned, it will hopefully be back on around 11am.

https://www.sce.com/outage-center/check-outage-status

Search by outage number: 800310383

As-of 10:15 am, they say:
Maintenance Outage
Unincorporated Area - Los Angeles County
Start Time: 9:54 AM PST Today
Estimated Restoration: 10:00 AM PST Today
Status: In Progress - Crew is at work
Step 1: Outage starting soon.
Our crew is preparing to turn the power off so they can work safely.
Completed
Step 2: Crew is at work.
An outage is in effect while our crew performs upgrades.
In Progress
Step 3: Power restored.
Not Started
Reason for Outage:
Pole Upgrade
Customers Impacted: 3171
Outage # : 800310383
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: lwt42 on Apr 08, 24, 12:05:27 PM

But, it seems like the power outage may have started later than expected...I have solar so I didn't notice exactly when it went out, but I can tell from my phone app that I am still "off grid" now, as-of about 10:15 am.


9:54 sounds right, it was about that here.  We're a bit west of the Community Garden.

No solar here, but I do have a UPS.  The 'fridge is set to 36 degrees, so I have plenty of time for that, mostly wanted the furnace "up."

Important loads are drawing right about 500 watts, with a peak at 900 or so.  A 2200 watt portable generator runs that just fine.

It'd be convenient to have a transfer switch, but I think I'd have to have a bigger (more expensive) generator to handle loads that I wouldn't care about.  Too many things share the same circuit.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: EQC on Apr 08, 24, 12:13:28 PM
Edison's site now estimates power back on at 1:00pm.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: lwt42 on Apr 08, 24, 12:14:32 PM
It looks like the outage is west of town in L.A. county, and 3,171 people means a lot of us are powered off.

Interesting....
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Deadhead on Apr 13, 24, 06:14:05 AM
Power out on East side of town.  Zurich drive,  East Canyon area.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: KW on Apr 13, 24, 06:16:44 AM
Also on Evergreen near Mountain View. Reported to Edison.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: JP on Apr 13, 24, 06:17:27 AM
Out on Linnet too
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Wrightwood on Apr 13, 24, 06:21:55 AM
Out at Linnet & Elm
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Wrightwood on Apr 13, 24, 06:39:08 AM
Back on
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: EQC on Apr 13, 24, 06:56:49 AM
Back on for me in the East Canyon area too. My system says it went out around 6am and I was back on grid around 6:40.

For anybody still affected or otherwise tracking, from edison's site:

https://www.sce.com/outage-center/check-outage-status

Repair Outage
Wrightwood
Start Time: 6:09 AM PST Today
Estimated Restoration: Most up by 8:00 AM PST Today
...
Customers Impacted: 3286
Outage # : 800313186


That site also seems to show several planned maintenance outages for Wrightwood in the coming days/weeks.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: EQC on Apr 18, 24, 09:03:01 AM
Power outage expected in Wrightwood tomorrow, due to maintenance planned by So Cal Edison.

Not sure how much of town will be affected, but my notification says:

Outage # 800311397
4/19/2024, 8:00am-4:00pm.

https://www.sce.com/outage-center/check-outage-status
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: lwt42 on Apr 18, 24, 11:22:47 AM
Power outage expected in Wrightwood tomorrow, due to maintenance planned by So Cal Edison.

Not sure how much of town will be affected, but my notification says:

Outage # 800311397
4/19/2024, 8:00am-4:00pm.

https://www.sce.com/outage-center/check-outage-status
The last outage was unusual in that they turned off most of the town for at least the first half of the outage.  I noticed later that they said that only 800 were out, vs. 3700 customers at the start.

Most of what they're doing is replacing poles with stronger ones.  Once they're all swapped out they'll replace the uninsulated wires that things can fall on and short out with insulated lines.

In the meantime, for us west of about Pine, the circuits tend to run between east-west streets, and when we're out, neighbors across the street all have power.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: EQC on Apr 19, 24, 04:43:18 PM
Power still out in the East Canyon area.  SCE has shifted the estimated power restoration from 4:00pm to 5:30pm today:


Maintenance Outage
Wrightwood
Start Time: 8:01 AM PST Today
Estimated Restoration: 5:30 PM PST Today
Status: In Progress - Crew is at work
...
An outage is in effect while our crew performs upgrades.
...
Step 3: Power restored. - Not Started

Reason for Outage:
Pole Upgrade
Customers Impacted: 617
Outage # : 800311397
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: EQC on Apr 26, 24, 08:08:46 AM
Email notification from Edison, in the East Canyon area of Wrightwood, says that another maintenance outage is planned for very early morning on Monday, 4/29:

Outage # 000800315961
Estimated start time: 4/29/2024 at 2:00am
Estimated end time: 4/29/2024 at 4:00am
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Bob C on Apr 26, 24, 08:11:41 AM
I got the same one for the area north of SR-2. My guess is this is a whole town outage to remove the generators
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Wrightwood on Apr 26, 24, 11:32:58 AM
My guess is this is a whole town outage to remove the generators

Yes it is for SCE to hook the town back to the grid
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: EQC on May 25, 24, 12:09:43 PM
Email notification about another upcoming So Cal Edison outage:

Outage number 800322957

Start Time: 6/10/2024 - 8:15 AM PST
Estimated End Time: 6/10/2024 - 4:00 PM PST
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: KW on May 25, 24, 02:10:39 PM
I haven't received that yet. What part of town?
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: lwt42 on May 25, 24, 07:51:57 PM
Most of the outages are to replace one pole, and we're going to see a ton of these over the next few years.

I don't know what it's like on the east side of town, but on the west side circuits run between streets.

When our power is out for a pole replacement, our neighbors across the street have power -- or the reverse.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Lepo on May 29, 24, 08:15:25 AM
Most of the outages are to replace one pole, and we're going to see a ton of these over the next few years.

I don't know what it's like on the east side of town, but on the west side circuits run between streets.

When our power is out for a pole replacement, our neighbors across the street have power -- or the reverse.

Last year we had 7 scheduled outages. So far this year we have 6 scheduled.

1-17-24
3-19-24
4-8-24
4-29-24
5-21-24
and now 6-7-24

As I said on the last page, I appreciate them upgrading the equipment and we need to keep the lineman safe while working. but this seems super excessive.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: lwt42 on May 29, 24, 11:17:34 AM
As I said on the last page, I appreciate them upgrading the equipment and we need to keep the lineman safe while working. but this seems super excessive.
Remember what happened to Paradise.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradise,_California#2018_fire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradise,_California#2018_fire)

SDGE, SCE and PG&E wanted protection from astronomical liability judgements, so they asked, and got the legislature to pass, a law limiting their liability.  In exchange, they are required to replace all of the bare wires that bring us our power with heavier, insulated wire.

The existing poles aren't strong enough, so what we're seeing is new poles to replace weaker ones.

When the poles can handle it, we're going to see outages to pull the new wire.  When that's done, a tree branch or a kite string won't start a fire and destroy Wrightwood.

If you aren't thinking about the massive project to rewire entire towns, then yeah, seems excessive.  I'd blame the legislature, but things will be safer when it's all done so I just deal with that.

My biggest irritation from this: many of my clocks set themselves, but a few don't.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: EQC on Sep 15, 25, 03:33:51 PM
Is anybody else having frequent issues with UIA internet over the past week or so?

Our house is having frequent but brief "outages" or some kind of connection instability for the past week or so.  Sometimes everything seems fine, but other times, Zoom meetings don't work well at all or we have to switch to a cellular connection.  Sometimes streaming works...sometimes it freezes way too often to be watchable.  Assorted "time-outs" or "this operation failed because the connection was lost" on various applications too.

We've tried the "basic" stuff like restarting the routers, etc...but no luck.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: lwt42 on Oct 28, 25, 05:43:56 PM
Maintenance Power Outage Reschedule Pending

The maintenance outage in your area needs to be rescheduled. We will provide you with an update as soon as we have more information, and apologize for any inconvenience. We appreciate your patience. Thank you.

Sincerely,
SCE Outage Communications
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: lwt42 on Oct 28, 25, 05:48:11 PM
I mean, I'm okay with the outage being cancelled, but I have a new power bank big enough to handle the critical loads, and a generator to keep the power bank charged (without running the generator overnight).

Maintenance Power Outage Reschedule Pending

The maintenance outage in your area needs to be rescheduled. We will provide you with an update as soon as we have more information, and apologize for any inconvenience. We appreciate your patience. Thank you.

Sincerely,
SCE Outage Communications
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: lwt42 on Nov 19, 25, 12:50:09 PM
SCE says we're still on for Thursday night.

We'll see.
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: Wrightwood on Nov 21, 25, 06:41:56 AM
Never lost power.....
Title: Re: Utility Outages (elec-gas-cable-etc)
Post by: lwt42 on Nov 23, 25, 06:54:14 PM
Never lost power.....

We did, somewhere around 6:00 am.  Not sure how long, at least an hour.

Enough that clocks on the stove and microwave needed to be reset.