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Public Forums => Science - Weather - Technology - DSL - Computers => Topic started by: Wrightwood on Jan 16, 03, 06:40:20 PM
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Very interesting! I'm wondering how I could make that message read Lake Placid, Florida. We need DSL (or some form of broad band). I'd guess, even though LP is also a small town, that we have at least as many folks using the Internet as WW has...although our Website seriously needs a Webmaster of the WW caliber! Sprint keeps sending me a "get DSL" message with every bill, but the inquiry always comes back with "not available in your area)
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Find out who is involved with in setting up new DSL service for your area. Then you need an email address.
It might be a matter of a few phone calls or a real pain.
Setup a simple web page similar to the one we used and have at it. It doesn't really make any difference where the emails come from because they can't tell in most instances.
Good luck.... It does work
Same thing on our Cal Trans pedestrian signs. We were told no. After a large campaign of emails they changed their mind rather quick.
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ZOOM.............Zoom............ZOOM
;D
I'm such a happy camper now that I have DSL. ;)
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HeHe. Ever hear of road runner? Beep-Beep!
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ZOOM.............Zoom............ZOOM
;D
I'm such a happy camper now that I have DSL. ;)
same here ;) ;)
(when it's not kicking me off for no reason, ofcourse >:()
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I've had Verizon DSL for about a year now even though Verizon originally told me it wasn't available here in Wrightwood.
So far I've had no complaints with the service. I have noticed, however, that on a few occasions (and I emphasize FEW), the service was down for a couple of hours. When this occured I noticed Verizon trucks working in the area. Maybe this was a coincidence.
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Why would it be kicking you off? Something doesn't sound right.
Well, when I'm in the middle of a video or web surfing, all of a sudden my connection drops and i have to unplug the modem and plug it back in. Its happend dozens of times.
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Well, when I'm in the middle of a video or web surfing, all of a sudden my connection drops and i have to unplug the modem and plug it back in. Its happend dozens of times.
Describe your connection.
Is the DSL modem connected directly into the ethernet card or is it going through a DSL Router/Firewall first?
If it's going through a router, switch and/or hub what brands ?
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Describe your connection.
Is the DSL modem connected directly into the ethernet card or is it going through a DSL Router/Firewall first?
If it's going through a router, switch and/or hub what brands ?
the modem cable goes to an ethernet card (linksys 10/100 i belive) and then into the computer....
Preahps fualty wiring is an issue?
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the modem cable goes to an ethernet card (linksys 10/100 i belive) and then into the computer....
Preahps fualty wiring is an issue?
Your statement above does not seem right.
From the DSL modem (grey color - for Verizon in WW) does a line go directly into the commputer or does it go into a Linksys box first (Blue colored) then to the computer?
Do you have filters on all your other telephone devices that are on the same phone line as the DSL signal? (Fax, portable phone, answer machine, etc)
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Your statement above does not seem right.
From the DSL modem (grey color - for Verizon in WW) does a line go directly into the commputer or does it go into a Linksys box first (Blue colored) then to the computer?
Do you have filters on all your other telephone devices that are on the same phone line as the DSL signal? (Fax, portable phone, answer machine, etc)
yes, it goes to an ethernet card and THEN into the computer.
As for the second question, yes, i have a line splitter--- it makes one phone outlet/jack into 2. Prehaps thats the problem...?
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Chris you have me totally confused. I remember you posting and bragging about how fast your new machine was on another topic.
As far as your comment about : "Actually older computers require a separate ethernet card." I agree that it requires an add in card, but the connection is still on the back of the machine. It's not a separate component as you have indicated in your other posts.
I'm just trying to help with your disconnect problem and have some ideas and experience in that area.
I can only help if you answer my specific questions about your equipment, that I previously posted.
If you would prefer not to have the help, no problem as I have plenty of other projects to do ;)
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Chris you have me totally confused. I remember you posting and bragging about how fast your new machine was on another topic.
Actually, the room it is in has faulty wiring and therefore hasn't been online yet.
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correct, I suppose.
The Linksys DSL/Routers are known to have lookup problems in some instances. I spent months trying to figure it out on our network and finally resolved it by changing the firmware. Notice I didn't say upgrade the firmware. At that time, the most current firmware had problems.
When the problem did exist I found that it was directly related to how much data was going through the router.
Every time I would be doing multiple large downloads it locked up. Your description sounds like heavy web access locks it up.
Check your firmware version on the Linksys router and install the most current one available.
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I remember you posting and bragging about how fast your new machine was on another topic.
Bragging? Would this be under the Mac/PCs topic, where we were discussing system specs? [smiley=deal2.gif] [smiley=haha.gif] [smiley=haha.gif]
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My Fujitsu DSL modem also needs rebooting from time to time. I have been able to correlate it with heat, it only does it on warm days, usually in the morning when the sun is hitting the computer room. It is a minor annoyance and I write it off as a flaw in the thermal design of the modem.
Now that it is winter, I don't ever have the problem because the temps don't get that high in this room. ;D
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zoochaser,
from your description it sounds like it could be related to your line quality or settings. Especially if the same thing happens with different providers.
Here's a zip file with information about line quality and settings that can help.
ftp://http://www.wrightwoodcalif.com/forumimg/TelephoneLineQuality.zip
I wouldn't bother with the files about FCC complaints.
Here's an important point that I've used numerous times that helps resolve the frustrating disconnects.
After you've checked all your computer settings and interior wiring of the house and continue to have problems, then it's more than likely line quality causing the problem.
Your testing must include removing "ALL answer machines, fax machines or portable telephones from your home telephone system.
Never call the phone company and complain about a modem connection as it won't do you any good.
What you need to do is call the phone company and complain about intermittent static on your line, that causes you to be dropped from phone conversations. Again, I repeat.. Don't even mention a computer or modem and the key words are "intermittent static".
By using that phrase they can't come out and charge you, but you must make sure your interior wiring is good and wired correctly or may be charged for a service call.
If after a few complaints they don't fix it demand they switch your pair of wires.
For instance in Wrightwood there is a squirrel problem that affects many lines in town. A squirrel eats through part of the wire insulation and as soon as moisture is in the air, the connection becomes shorted and intermittent. Thus causing dropped modem connections and also static on your phone line.
Good luck and keep us informed of your progress.
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Is this DSL broadband and how much is it?
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$45-50/month, yes broadband.
In response to the poster that said they cannot get DSL in their area, I'd recommend looking into DirecTV and other small dish providers. They offer broadband through the satillite that you should be able to get anywhere. It receives the high speed download through the dish and uses the phone line for a low speed upload.
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Thanks for the info Ensen.
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I live in Palmdale and I unfortunatly a 200 ft away from the cut off
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If you were new to town what kinda of internet suggestions would you make? Verizon DSL?
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Verizon DSL is the ONLY way to fly!
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I have Verizon too, for about a year now, and really like it. At first I had a lot of problems with it frequently not connecting, but that seems to be a thing of the past now.
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I had an outage of 8 days that was finally resolved, and naturally they credited me the 8 days.....(DUH)..I told them by e-mail how frustrating it was talking to the first level techs on the phone.....no response by e-mail...
BUT - their customer service called me...and apologized for what should not have taken so long...and credited me my last two months bill! Makes me a loyal customer for a little while....
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What are y'all paying?
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I pay 20 something per month, sorry I don't know exactly - blends in with the phone bill, but under 30.
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For those that have said they can't get DSL, I've found that you can get broadband (384K) anywhere with http://directv.direcway.com/. It's $69/month if you buy the equipment ($500+-) or $99 a month and they provide the equipment. It's a bit more expensive than DSL and not quite as fast, but you can get it anywhere.
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It might be helpful for some of you to know a little history on why Wrightwood has DSL.
DSL in Wrightwood:
On Aug 10, 1999 the web page below was setup and sent to everyone we knew, requesting their assistance.
Each person was asked to send a quick email to GTE requesting DSL service to be established in Wrightwood.
http://www.ryanqc.com/wwdsl.htm
On Mar 1, 2000 GTE accepted the first order for DSL service in Wrightwood.
On Mar 15, 2000 the first 2 DSL connections in Wrightwood were online, while Cities like Anaheim hadn't even been considered for DSL.
Wrightwood wasn't lucky to be one of the first communities in the area to have DSL - We worked the system very hard to accomplish our goal!
As of today it's been 11 years, 1 day since the first DSL orders for Wrightwood service were taken
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Wrightwood wasn't lucky to be one of the first communities in the area to have DSL - We worked the system very hard to accomplish our goal!
That's actually a hec of an accomplishment. Proof the sweaky wheel gets the grease :P
Prior to my current ISP connection I had a ISDN 2B +D installed in the early 90's. ISDN typically provides a maximum of 128 kbit/s upload and download. At the time it was basically twice as fast as dial-up.
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Yep, still have the two phone lines that were from my ISDN 128 kbit/s prior to DSL.
That was also back in the days when you received email it was from someone you knew and anyone who had a long signature line was considered to be abusing bandwidth.
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can we try this tactic again to get fios or maybe community wireless????
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After 15 years, 1 month and 29 days since the 1st DSL connection in Wrightwood it's great to announce that Fiber Broadband is coming to town soon.
How about Fiber directly to the home/business at 1 Gbps upload and 1 Gbps download speeds, with no cap, unlimited and no installation fee.
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Any idea of cost John?
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Joe,
It looks like Residential should be $70 month - Bundled with Voice $95
Activation and installation (all types): Waived
Modem charge: No monthly residential equipment fee
Voice service includes unlimited calling in United States and Canada
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Sounds attractive and affordable.
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Before I saw the pricing, my wife and I were trying to figure out what we'd pay for this service. Now I'm not going to say! :2thumbsup:
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The issue will still be phone access during times of emergency. I don't mind bundling Voice and Internet, we do it now with Verizon. However, there still is the issue of when the power goes out, so does Internet, and therefore an internet-carried phone service.
POTS (Plain Old Telephone Service) lines are powered from the central office (in our case, the CO in the center of the village), so if that building has power or back up power, so will the phone lines.
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So do we know is going to be the provider for this new service? Never mind - I just read the 1 Gb thread and found my answer.
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I agree - At this point in time there's no way we'd get rid of a landline due to emergencies
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So do we know is going to be the provider for this new service?
See this topic: (http://www.wrightwoodcalif.com/forum/index.php/topic,23096.msg304642.html#msg304642)
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Looks like Ultimate Internet Access (UIA). According to Google (so it must be true) they have been in business since 1996. I still want to keep my landline since we seem to have all sorts of power outages here in WW. But the 1GB is really tempting. I may just have to pony up the $70 and try it out. Wonder when this will REALLY happen!?
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Personally, I'm not ready to make a change - my average of 2.7 Mbps is adequate for my needs (although woefully substandard according to today's technology). I do wonder if and hope that the new service will free up some of Verizon's DSL connections for people who keep getting told there is a waiting list or that they can't get service at their particular location. That would be very nice.
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Well, my DSL connection will become available the moment this new service is up and running, that's for sure! And it's only DSL and not phonelines themselves that are limited, so every person who switches will be a new slot open for anyone still settling for Verizon.
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Have you ever wondered why Wrightwood has DSL and many large cities still do not have the service ?
It's because of a web page, a lot of emails and determined people.
A friend contacted GTE (now Verizon) and got in touch with a person responsible for setting up new services in the High Desert. (It should be noted that at that time only one location in the High Desert had DSL - Apple Valley, as DSL was still being tested) He was told that if a number of people requested the service it would help in future efforts to have service available.
It should also be pointed out that Wrightwood's phone system has had a poor history to say the least. We were one of the very last towns to be upgraded from a relay switching system. In the early 80's only a couple of fax machines were in Wrightwood. The two I'm aware of were at 1st Interstate Bank and the one my business had. The phone connections in Wrightwood were so noisy that every 3rd or 4th fax connection was dropped off due to bad connections.
Back to the DSL story: On Aug 10,1999 the web page below was setup and sent to everyone we knew, requesting their assistance. Each person was asked to send a quick email to GTE requesting DSL service to be established in Wrightwood.
Mar 1,2000 GTE accepted the first order for DSL service in Wrightwood.
On Mar 15,2000 the first 2 DSL connections in Wrightwood were online, while Cities like Anaheim hadn't even been considered for DSL.
DSL service in Wrightwood has been very stable since first coming online and we've only had a handful of outages that affected the entire town.
http://www.wrightwoodcalif.com/DSL/wwdsl.htm
The original web page remains online as a tribute to those people who helped get DSL in Wrightwood. Only the contact name and his email address have been changed.
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Amazing that Wrightwood has had DSL for over 16 years and now getting 1gb Fiber :thumbs:
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Companies pick their fights. Wrightwood has DSL because the cable company's infrastructure is (was?) even worse. I have relatives in other states where it's the reverse, no DSL because everyone buys it from the cable company.