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Title: Vegetation Fire - Lytle Fire 4-13-07
Post by: Wrightwood on Apr 13, 07, 10:53:20 AM

Forest Service is dispatching crews to a fire above North of the Lytle Creek shooting range

Title: Re: Vegetation Fire -Lytle Creek
Post by: Wrightwood on Apr 13, 07, 11:00:59 AM

Aircraft being ordered

Title: Re: Vegetation Fire -Lytle Creek
Post by: Wrightwood on Apr 13, 07, 11:11:03 AM

2-3 acres
Cold Water Canyon & 3N06

Title: Re: Vegetation Fire -Lytle Creek
Post by: Wrightwood on Apr 13, 07, 11:23:03 AM

Access is very difficult to the area.
Fixed wing Air 83 is helping guide crews to the fire.

Title: Re: Vegetation Fire -Lytle Creek
Post by: Wrightwood on Apr 13, 07, 11:25:41 AM

Not accessable to engines right now.

Title: Re: Vegetation Fire -Lytle Fire 4-13-07
Post by: Wrightwood on Apr 13, 07, 11:27:14 AM

No smoke showing from Lone Pine Canyon by Wrightwood 101.

Will check from Helicopter Hill.

Title: Re: Vegetation Fire - Lytle Fire 4-13-07
Post by: Wrightwood on Apr 13, 07, 11:31:29 AM

Now being reported by Gobblers Knob.

Title: Re: Vegetation Fire - Lytle Fire 4-13-07
Post by: Wrightwood on Apr 13, 07, 11:40:09 AM

Currently being worked by aircraft

Title: Re: Vegetation Fire - Lytle Fire 4-13-07
Post by: Wrightwood on Apr 13, 07, 11:44:01 AM

Shooting range:

http://www.lytlecreekrange.com/Information.html
http://www.lytlecreekrange.com/

Title: Re: Vegetation Fire - Lytle Fire 4-13-07
Post by: Wrightwood on Apr 13, 07, 11:48:42 AM

Rate of spread now slow

Title: Re: Vegetation Fire - Lytle Fire 4-13-07
Post by: Wrightwood on Apr 13, 07, 11:52:57 AM

Mountain High Ski area being requested as water source

Title: Re: Vegetation Fire - Lytle Fire 4-13-07
Post by: Wrightwood on Apr 13, 07, 11:55:58 AM

2-3 acres - holding on top of ridge - air tanker drops have helped

Title: Re: Vegetation Fire - Lytle Fire 4-13-07
Post by: Wrightwood on Apr 13, 07, 12:00:35 PM

Not sure who much water they can get out of the large reservoir (east). Here's how the water level looked on April 9, 2007

(http://www.wrightwoodcalif.com/misc/MHeast4.9.07.JPG)

Title: Re: Vegetation Fire - Lytle Fire 4-13-07
Post by: Wrightwood on Apr 13, 07, 12:03:13 PM

For reference: Gobblers Knob is about 2.5 miles from the East end of Wrightwood.

Title: Re: Vegetation Fire - Lytle Fire 4-13-07
Post by: Wrightwood on Apr 13, 07, 12:13:50 PM

(http://www.wrightwoodcalif.com/misc/MD_LytleFire.JPG)

Title: Re: Vegetation Fire - Lytle Fire 4-13-07
Post by: Wrightwood on Apr 13, 07, 12:38:39 PM

Retardant around the outside of the fire perimeter.

Title: Re: Vegetation Fire - Lytle Fire 4-13-07
Post by: Wrightwood on Apr 13, 07, 02:47:09 PM

Helicopter 301 was  released at 2:31pm

Title: Re: Vegetation Fire - Lytle Fire 4-13-07
Post by: clint on Apr 13, 07, 02:50:57 PM

There is a primitive camp site at the saddle east of Gobblers Knob. The camp site is also called Gobblers Knob and it is a common camp site for PCT hikers. And it's that season. I am very curious to know the point of origin for this fire.

Title: Re: Vegetation Fire - Lytle Fire 4-13-07
Post by: FSfirefighter on Apr 13, 07, 11:39:52 PM

The fire wasn't actually on Gobblers Knob. It was actually on a no named knob to the southeast of Gogglers Knob and to the east of forest road 3N33 and directly north of Lytle Creek Road. The cause was an illegal campfire.

The quick air attack by two airtankers, a lead plane, and a helicopter were instrumental in the quick containment of the fire.

The fire is staffed overnight and will have one engine and one watertender on it tomorrow.

Title: Re: Vegetation Fire - Lytle Fire 4-13-07
Post by: Wrightwood on Apr 13, 07, 11:59:21 PM

Thanks FSfirefighter for the clarification. It was obvious from radio traffic that it was difficult for access and very fortunate that aircraft were able to fly today.

Title: Re: Vegetation Fire - Lytle Fire 4-13-07
Post by: lagomorphmom on Apr 14, 07, 07:31:30 AM

FSFirefighter, I was so glad to see air suppression brought in early, or at least earlier than this civilian has noticed it in other fires. Knowing not what I know not, I've always wished for earlier and better air support for ground personnel but assumed the bean counters thought you all were cheaper (I think the other way around). Maybe it is also a function of location (property value, threat to adjoining areas, etc.)?

In any case, I was wondering with the dry winter if there is a different philosophy this season by the big wigs to have air support available earlier, or any other change for that matter.

Thanks to all who were involved in this one!