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Title: Animal attacks
Post by: Naughty pines on Jul 02, 07, 11:12:13 AM
Just saw this on another forum.
This is do-able if an animal attacks you, except maybe a bear.

http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=EC13EC35-F502-44A5-B31C-5DD40D2F531C&t=m10&f=06/64&p=hotvideo_m_edpicks&fg=&GT1=10056
Title: Re: Animal attacks
Post by: Al on Jul 02, 07, 01:56:48 PM
I don't think this guy would be telling the same story if the bobcat had been a mountain lion.  I did not know bobcats attacked humans. 
Title: Re: Animal attacks
Post by: cedar on Jul 02, 07, 02:26:27 PM
The bobcat was rabid. A normal healthy bobcat avoids people.
Title: Re: Animal attacks
Post by: Naughty pines on Jul 02, 07, 02:32:33 PM
Hit in the throat hard enough to affect its breathing and almost anything will quit.
Title: Re: Animal attacks
Post by: Al on Jul 02, 07, 02:37:12 PM
A good hit yes.  But to choke a mountain lion to death with ones bare hands would be quite a feat.  You would almost need to have hands like Paul Bunyon, and forearms like Popeye.
Title: Re: Animal attacks
Post by: Naughty pines on Jul 02, 07, 05:01:24 PM
Both thumbs in the center of the throat as hard as you can press while keeping the mouth away from your face if in that position should do it.
Title: Re: Animal attacks
Post by: Naughty pines on Jul 02, 07, 05:03:21 PM
If nothing else works, reach behind yourself and grab a hand full of poop and stuff it down its throat.  :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: Animal attacks
Post by: CA5th on Jul 02, 07, 05:09:03 PM
May years ago, I believe it was 1979 or 1980, at the Reno Rodeo I watched a cowboy make a 1000 lb bull do "the chicken".  He used a chokehold on the bull.  His partner was trying to win the "tie a bow" on the horns contest.  Yes, the cowboy was a VERY strong man.  I knew him, worked with him.  He was a gentle individual who sometimes just didn't know his strength.  The bull recovered in a few minutes and just ambled away........

The pair did win the contest.
Title: Re: Animal attacks
Post by: 3PinkRoses on Jul 05, 07, 09:43:43 PM
Just a note which I posted in another thread, I just saw a huge bobcat in the Pacific Crest Area last week. It was huge! It was way heavier than the one in the above link!! Not skinny at all. So beware PacCresters!!
Title: Re: Animal attacks
Post by: angelwolf326 on Jul 05, 07, 09:48:03 PM
OMG< where???
Title: Re: Animal attacks
Post by: Wildman on Jul 06, 07, 09:47:49 AM
Just a note which I posted in another thread, I just saw a huge bobcat in the Pacific Crest Area last week. It was huge! It was way heavier than the one in the above link!! Not skinny at all. So beware PacCresters!!

No need to post this in the "Animal Attacks" thread.  How about the "Wildlife sighting" thread.  I saw a well nourished Fox the other day coming through the top of LPC.  We live in a area where wildlife abounds (in spite of us).  Bobcats are very solitary animals....normally will not attack unless rabid or cornered and taunted and are very happy eating rabbits, squirrels, birds and lizards.  The chances of being attacked by a Bobcat are about the same as being attacked by a Wolf....slim to none.  Celebrate the fact that we live where Bear, Mountain Lion, Bobcat, Big Horn Sheep, Ringtail Cat, Coyote, Fox still roam relatively free. 
Title: Re: Animal attacks
Post by: storm on Jul 06, 07, 10:20:05 AM
I approached a gray-colored (hard to tell--the only source of light was my headlamp) fox-like animal to within 12-15 feet last night after dark.  I was walking to my tent and heard something to my right.  I turn my headlamp on and saw a pair of dull orange-colored eyes moving slowly back and forth.  So I started walking toward it, seeing that it was small with a bushy tail, and moved like a cat, but had big bointed ears and had the outline of a fox, maybe two feet long.  Eventually, it retreated a bit.
Title: Re: Animal attacks
Post by: angelwolf326 on Jul 06, 07, 11:13:55 AM
I agree, it should be wildlife sightings...  :)

I wouldn't worry about a bobcat, myself or walking one of my dogs as they are big... 

But someone with a smaller dog might worry.... 

A lot of people let there dogs off lead to run in the area it was spotted.... 
Title: Re: Animal attacks
Post by: Hillbillies on Jul 06, 07, 10:06:08 PM
I don't worry about the bobcat in our area as much as I do about this creature!

(http://www.websophist.com/ChickenLipsM.jpg)

I'd hate to see what would happen to an innocent hiker if one these latched on to their Achilles tendon...
Title: Re: Animal attacks
Post by: angelwolf326 on Jul 08, 07, 01:28:24 PM
Saw the bobcat last night at about 1:30am as I pulled in my dw.  He was running from the neighbors dw and he is big.....  the size of a big dog but he does not move like a dog.  There are quail that nest in the trees he was near..... 

Watch your cats and small dogs lower East Canyon neighbors...
Title: Re: Animal attacks
Post by: RobertW on Jul 08, 07, 03:47:00 PM
There are quail that nest in the trees he was near..... 

Are you sure those are quail nesting in the trees?  From everything I've read, quail do not nest in trees but on the ground in heavy brush: 

"Both the cock and hen work at building the nest by digging a shallow scrape and lining it with dead leaves and grass.  Adjacent grasses are arched over the nest, concealing it from overhead and giving it the appearance of a small tunnel."

Come to think of it, I've never seen them in trees.  I've never seen them fly any higher than about waist high and only then when they are startled.

As far as the size of the Bobcat, Boston Bob and I saw one that was every bit as large as a mountain lion in Lytle Creek's South Fork last year.  They can get to be very large.

Title: Re: Animal attacks
Post by: Horse Apples on Jul 08, 07, 04:15:01 PM
RobertW,
Quails may not "nest" in trees, but every evening between 5:30 and 6:00 we would used to watch them gather around our Apricot tree for a minute or two, then one by one, they would all fly in and roost!
Title: Re: Animal attacks
Post by: angelwolf326 on Jul 08, 07, 05:53:13 PM
There are 3 VERY large douglas firs (the blue xmas tree type?) across the street.  They are VERY wide at the bottom and have lots of pine needles under them..  A young hawk was hunting there in the spring.

We feed the quail and they always come from those trees with their babies.....

They don't go up in the trees, they are always at the bottom.
Title: Re: Animal attacks
Post by: Wrightwood on Jul 08, 07, 05:54:31 PM
Sounds like a Colorado Blue Spruce  :D
Title: Re: Animal attacks
Post by: kew on Jul 08, 07, 06:26:39 PM
Life Cycle
Males often compete for a mate. They will mate with only one female. Females usually lay between 12-16 cream and brown speckled eggs. Their nest is a shallow hollow or scrape in the ground that is lined with grass. The female incubates the eggs for about three weeks. Both parents will care for the chicks. The chicks leave the nest shortly after birth. They make their first attempts at flight when they are about 10 days old. They will stay on the ground for about a month and then will roost in trees with the rest of the flock. The female usually has one brood a year.

Behavior

The California quail lives in coveys of 10 to 200 birds in the winter. They will stay in these flocks until they pair off during mating season. Male California quails will perch on a tree or post and call out to claim their territory. The California quail will roost in trees to avoid danger and to rest.
http://www.nhptv.org/natureworks/californiaquail.htm
Title: Re: Animal attacks
Post by: gypsywolf on Jul 08, 07, 07:43:51 PM
We gave Gambel's Quail here in Yucca Valley. We also have 2 big China Berry trees in the yard. When I am out watering in the evening, I watch the quail fly up into these trees to roost everynight.  They are quite comical to listen to. They bicker and squawk and then as if they all agree, they go completely silent.

However, I have never been attacked by the birds. OK.. :offtopic:

Title: Re: Animal attacks
Post by: Freighthauler on Jul 08, 07, 08:50:14 PM
Just saw this on another forum.
This is do-able if an animal attacks you, except maybe a bear.



Might work if you grab a handfull of the bears' walnuts and squeeze really hard. ;D
Title: Re: Animal attacks
Post by: james6000 on Jul 10, 08, 03:05:30 PM
My daughter spotted a coyote this morning going down twin lakes from lone pine and 10 minutes later heard what sounded like a small dog being attacked so watch out for your small pets!
Title: Re: Animal attacks
Post by: Nolena on Jul 10, 08, 09:58:17 PM
Not good to be leaving small animals out.
Please take care of your babies. The coyotes are in town. Heard them last night...packs of them singing.
Title: Re: Animal attacks
Post by: ForestGal on Jul 10, 08, 10:17:38 PM
I hear them all the time.  My tiny baby is out right now, I need to go fetch her back in.  But I have to let her out to go potty...... 
Title: Re: Animal attacks
Post by: ForestGal on Jul 10, 08, 10:24:40 PM
OK, Heidi is back in, and in my lap right now. How can an animal this tiny, bring so much love into a home?     :-*