WrightwoodCalif.com Forum

Public Forums => San Gabriel Mtns Flora - Fauna => Topic started by: Hillbillies on Sep 17, 04, 05:25:28 PM

Title: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Hillbillies on Sep 17, 04, 05:25:28 PM
.....seen around the area of Division and Apple Street.  I am wondering if anyone has heard anything about this.
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: RobertW on Sep 17, 04, 05:33:31 PM
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Hillbillies on Sep 17, 04, 05:45:35 PM
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: RobertW on Sep 17, 04, 06:09:34 PM
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: klquinn on Sep 18, 04, 02:53:22 AM
We're on Oriole and our dogs were freaking out about something around 9:00 Friday night.  Could it be the mountain lion??  
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: ezzpete on Sep 18, 04, 03:00:49 AM
maybe he will thin out the dog population, and there will be less barking. [smiley=wave.gif]
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Hillbillies on Sep 18, 04, 04:17:36 AM
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Hillbillies on Sep 18, 04, 04:23:06 AM
Quote
maybe he will thin out the dog population, and there will be less barking. [smiley=wave.gif]

LOL.
That would be sweeeeeeet...... 8)
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Nolena on Sep 18, 04, 04:56:44 AM
If you could get a hold of some "eau de female cougar"... ;D
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: AntiFltLndrs on Sep 18, 04, 05:04:18 AM
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Wrightwood on Sep 18, 04, 05:29:21 AM
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Wrightwood on Sep 18, 04, 05:45:07 AM
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: tombo55 on Sep 18, 04, 04:36:04 PM
maybe he will thin out the raccon population also lol
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Musicman on Sep 20, 04, 05:08:18 PM
What Raccoon population?
I have lived up here for years and use to see
raccoons all of the time...now I rarely do. :'(
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: nascarnut on Sep 20, 04, 05:38:09 PM
I saw raccoons all the time when I lived over on Cardinal, I haven't seen one since I moved over to Desert View. Maybe they are just west side residents!
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Hillbillies on Sep 21, 04, 11:53:07 AM
Anyone notice that new raccoon hat store here in town called "Coon Head".
Pretty suspicious..... :o ;)
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: ezzpete on Sep 21, 04, 02:48:17 PM
"momma shoos coons off the back porch with a broom" Forrest Gump
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Surfer_Dude on Mar 16, 06, 10:43:01 AM
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: MazzyStar on Mar 16, 06, 10:46:03 AM
Any clue as to a general wherabouts?  East side where?  I'm East of the school but just West of Sheep Creek...
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Surfer_Dude on Mar 16, 06, 10:50:59 AM
Mountain lions have a huge territory radius so any part of WW is its playground.
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Wrightwood on Mar 16, 06, 11:04:25 AM
Who was it that identified the tracks as being a lion?
What size were the prints?
How did they know it was a male? Or was it?

I asked these questions as a volunteer with the DFG involved in tracking mountain lion activity.

Mountain lion tracks have been seen on the Eastside of town, going up through the houses.   If he comes back I will try to get some good photos of the tracks.  Keep an eye on your beloved children and poochies.
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Suhijita on Mar 16, 06, 11:11:50 AM


Mountain lions have a huge territory radius so any part of WW is its playground.

Yes! I believe they roam a 250 mile radius of their home AND they can pounce thirty feet!!!! Keep your eyes on your fries.
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Wrightwood on Mar 16, 06, 11:40:10 AM
That figure is high for what is recognized by the DFG with our lion population.

The males do cover a large range and generally speaking in California, a home range for an adult male lion can be over 100 square miles. Females travel a smaller range of 20 to 60 square miles. http://www.dfg.ca.gov/whdab/html/M165.html

The young male that we captured above Lone Pine Canyon was fitted with a radio telemetry collar. During the first fews months of tracking the lions movement he made a complete circle around the San Gabriel Mountains. That included Lone Pine Canyon, Cabin Flats, Crystal Lake area and back again to the Lytle Creek area.
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: angiepoo on Mar 16, 06, 11:44:25 AM
A few weeks ago, my brother in law said there were tracks around his house up on Heath Creek by the wash.
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Surfer_Dude on Mar 16, 06, 11:48:31 AM
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Wrightwood on Mar 16, 06, 12:05:17 PM
Surfer_Dude thanks for the clarification.

Large dog tracks and mountain lion tracks are very similar and more often than not misidentified. Tracks in the snow are the worst as a dog track becomes very large when the snow begins to melt. That's not to say that we don't have a lion in the area but until more concrete evidence or sightings appear I'm not convinced.

Last time sightings were reported in town I followed them up and had more questions than answers about the sighting(s) and what people had actually seen.
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Wrightwood on Mar 16, 06, 12:07:54 PM
http://www.bigcats.org/abc/identification/pumadogtracks.html
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Suhijita on Mar 16, 06, 12:18:50 PM
ESPN did an article on Mountain Lion Hunting:

"Lions travel. An old tom may have a 200 to 300-mile radius that he travels."

"If we find his track three or four days old, then we're going to start looking in the direction that he is going and cutting way out front of that track."

"We try and find where he has come through someplace, warming that track up to a night or two nights old. Generally we catch up with him in the same day, but sometimes it takes a couple of days."

"Lions move at night," Zeldenthuis said. "During the day we're actually trailing that lion where he's been through the night. Out here you catch a lot of lions on the rims, in the rocks. A lot of trees are not big enough to really hold a lion."
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Wrightwood on Mar 16, 06, 12:54:15 PM
I would lean towards the California DFG numbers on this one as we just don't have that type of open space in California. The ESPN story might be talking about the capabilities of the lion in general, when it doesn't have restrictions on territory. I'd be hard pressed to consider that a lions would be traveling from San Diego to Santa Barbara and Long Beach to Las Vegas.

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/watchable/mtlionbro.pdf
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Suhijita on Mar 16, 06, 01:51:23 PM
good point... I used to live in OC and they would roam the neighborhoods and I have never seen one here...perhaps they don't want to cross the 15...lol.
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Wrightwood on Mar 17, 06, 01:31:27 PM
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: MazzyStar on Mar 17, 06, 01:43:09 PM
If I'm attacked by a mountain lion... should I punch it in the nose or poke it in the eye? ;D
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: phoenixgirl on Mar 17, 06, 03:50:19 PM
ummmmmmm, both ;D
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: MontanaBear on Mar 17, 06, 04:48:46 PM
You have no chance.Because they stalk you and attack from behind grabbing you by the back of the neck.
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: gypsywolf on Mar 17, 06, 05:46:37 PM
I know this may sound silly, but I usually glance up at the roof line when I go out at night. They like to pounce on their prey.

How cool there is an acutal sighting. Hopefully he is just passing through and won't bother anyone.
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Blackcomb on Mar 17, 06, 06:29:16 PM
I know this may sound silly, but I usually glance up at the roof line when I go out at night. They like to pounce on their prey.

How cool there is an acutal sighting. Hopefully he is just passing through and won't bother anyone.

Since the last tracks appeared in the snow, maybe they will re-appear this weekend, and hopefully this means that it will refrain from trying to sled in anybody's yard  ;D
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Surfer_Dude on Mar 17, 06, 06:38:37 PM
I'll make sure I am wearing a bicycle helmet. ;D
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Surfer_Dude on Mar 17, 06, 08:03:32 PM
(http://www.snowfire.com/images/JO-Mountain_Lion_Cub.jpg)
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: gypsywolf on Mar 17, 06, 09:02:47 PM
I told you that habit was silly :P ;D

What a cute baby lion photo.

Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Wildman on Mar 17, 06, 10:54:28 PM
About ten years ago, we had just come back from an early morning response and were backing the apparatus into the station and I asked my Engineer if that was a dog in front of the station.  It wasn't....it was a mountain lion carrying a small cockapoo type dog.  We turned the engine headlights on to illuminate the two.  The dogs tail was still wagging weakly.  The lion just kept going down Elm and disappeared across Hwy 2 into the creek.  We had just seen "Dances with Wolves" and the comment was made with a line from the movie,  "Somewhere, someone's asking why don't she write?"
In our line of work two things were essential...remain cool in the face of the unusual and have a morbid sense of humor.  I always thought of that little dog when I saw missing dog signs around town.

Several months later, a mountain lion was found dead along Hwy 2 and I stood guard over it until Fish and Game could arrive.  It's the lion that is mounted and at Grassy Hollow.  Even in death, it was the perfect predator...with claws that were like razor blades teeth that could wrap around a deer's neck.  Magnificent animals. 
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: RobertW on Mar 17, 06, 11:05:50 PM
Title: Mountain Lion
Post by: Ricki on Mar 20, 06, 06:17:44 PM
Just a reminder for old and new neighbors alike.... we live in a beautiful, natural forest whose inhabitants include mountain lions.  I live in the East Canyon area, and my Mom & Dad live two doors down.  My Dad and another neighbor have spotted mountain lion tracks three times in the last three weeks.  The first ones were after that big rain we had around Feb 24.  Clear as day, in the mud behind my neighbors house.  The next two sets were seen in the snow.  My Dad has a casting of a mountian lion's track.  I bought it for him for father's day a couple of years ago as he fondly tells me of making such a casting when he was hiking as a boy scout in our area. So, he has something to compare the tracks with.  My son spotted a mountain lion across the street from our house about midnight, four or so years ago.  Mountain lions aren't particularly aggressive towards humans, but I'd watch out for your little ones and be aware at night.
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Shirelindy on Mar 26, 06, 11:39:35 PM
This is my first year up here so I wanted to ask...  Is it bad for my mom and I to wander around in the forrest up above East Canyon. 
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Surfer_Dude on Mar 27, 06, 03:27:08 AM
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Nolena on Mar 27, 06, 05:50:27 AM
Title: Re: Mountain Lion rumored to be.......
Post by: Shirelindy on Mar 27, 06, 01:24:04 PM
Thanks for the help, I'll bust out my ten essentials.
Title: Mt. Lion sighting
Post by: thehallmarks on May 29, 06, 10:15:51 PM
Today, at about 4:30 pm, a friend and I were coming back into WW from a motorcycle ride when a Mt. Lion ran south across Hwy 2.  The location of it's crossing was between Mt. High East and the water road.

My friend thought it might have been a bobcat but I was following him and got a better look.  It had a longer body, was fawn colored and had a long tail.

I've seem bobcats up here but this is the first time I have seem a Mt. Lion.

Title: Re: Mt. Lion sighting
Post by: angelwolf326 on May 30, 06, 08:25:10 AM
Wow, I was coming down from Jackson lake at about 3:30pm, I wish I could have seen it.

I did see a small bobcat crossing LPC at the dip below the upper esses at about 9:15pm last night......

Title: Re: Mt. Lion sighting
Post by: thehallmarks on May 30, 06, 10:01:06 AM
Kris & I have seen bobcats crossing LPC at that location also.  Must be a "path" either home or to it's hunting area!
Title: Re: Mt. Lion sighting
Post by: WWMtnGal on May 30, 06, 10:05:12 AM
We have seen bobcats on LPC too!
Title: Re: Mt. Lion sighting
Post by: goatgirl on May 30, 06, 10:17:45 AM
I haven't seen an actual mountain lion but I did see the tracks one day while hiking just below the slide.   It was in the snow and boy! those were some big paws!!!