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Title: Arrowhead Fire 10-22-07 Grass Valley
Post by: Wrightwood on Oct 22, 07, 07:06:33 AM: 30 acre wildland fire near Lake Arrowhead
Title: Re: Arrowhead Fire 10-22-07
Post by: WWMtnGal on Oct 22, 07, 07:17:53 AM: There is really heavy smoke behind the hills where our office is facing which is the San Bernardino mountains.
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Post by: Wrightwood on Oct 22, 07, 07:18:24 AM: Well established in inaccessible area in Grass Valley Drainage; Deer Lodge Park evacuated, starting more evacs in the Grass Valley area
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Post by: superMom on Oct 22, 07, 07:29:05 AM: Is new fire reported near Silverwood Lake yet another new one?
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Post by: rdnckgrl78 on Oct 22, 07, 07:32:37 AM: It appears so...

Incident: 0493 Type: Report of Fire Location: SILVERWOOD LAKE Zoom Map: 4736 2B info as of: 10/22/2007 7:16:00 AM
ADDITIONAL DETAILS
7:08AM CANYON ON FIRE JSO SILVERWOOD LAKE AT 138
Title: Re: Arrowhead Fire 10-22-07
Post by: Hillbillies on Oct 22, 07, 07:35:50 AM: We were at the Arrowhead resort over the weekend, and yesterday the winds were VERY bad up there. I hope it's not like that today..... for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: Arrowhead Fire 10-22-07 Grass Valley
Post by: Wrightwood on Oct 22, 07, 07:47:19 AM: Incident: 0240
Report of Fire
Location: N GRASS VALLEY RD AT EDGE CLIFF DR
ADDITIONAL DETAILS
7:36AM   PER 101-R3 ADV 101-R4 CO RDS SHOWED UP AT THEIR LOCATION, SENT UP TO 5 PTS AT 189
7:28AM   CO RDS SUPERVISOR ENRT TO COMMAND POST NOW
7:28AM   PER 101-R4, HAVE CO RDS SHUT DOWN BLUE JA, CUT OFF RDWY, 1 WAY RD THEY WILL KNOW ONE IT IS
7:28AM   1039 CO RDS
7:24AM   MAKE SURE CO RDS KNOWS THERE IS A 5 IC, WILL NEED ENOUGH CONES FOR AT LEAST 2 STREETS GRASS VALLEY AT OLD COAL
7:23AM   101-R4 REQ CO RDS RESPOND W/BARRICADES
7:11AM   USING 173 AS EVAC ROUTE TO ** 1039 OFC FOR L1
6:48AM   HAVE 1 UNIT RESPOND DALEY CANYON AT 5 POINTS OFF 189 TO SHUT DOWN TRAFFIC/ FOR RESIDENTS ONLY
6:47AM   ALREADY CALLED 1 ON RDOS, CALL B WATCHERS TO SEE IF AVAIL TO COME IN
6:47AM   PER OFCR GUNNOE CAN 21 INV S ON RDOS
6:42AM   SBSO REQS CHP TO 98 AT SR173 AT SPILLWAY FOR UNK REASON DISPATCHER COULD NOT ADVS
6:40AM   PER OFCR ADAMSON OPENING HWY 173 WHERE GATE IS CLOSED TO LET PEOPLE OUT
6:32AM   PER 101-21 ADV D FIRE IS UP TO 75 ACRES NOW ** 101-S3 CPYS
6:21AM   1039 TO PSDS DAVIS
6:15AM   SBSO REQ 98 EDGECREST AT GRASS VALLEY RD
5:55AM   PER 21 ** ON GRASS VALLEY AT OVERLOOK, CADI CORNERS TO EDGECLIFF WILL BE PREVENTING TRAFFIC FROM COMING IN
5:55AM   PARTY IS AT GRASS VALLEY AT SUNSET POWER LINES ACROSS THE ROAD
5:53AM   PER 21 NEED UNIT SUNSET AT GRASS VALLEY, VEHS ARE TRYING TO GO AROUND AND GETTING STUCK DUE TO POWER POLE/TREE DOWN
5:52AM   PER 101-S3 ASC F/21 IF A UNIT CAN RESP BRENTWOOD AT GRASS VALLEY, CAN USE BRENTWOD AS AN ALT ROUTE DUE TO POWER POLE DOWN ON GRASS VALLEY
5:38AM   PER 101-S3 ASC F/21 IF THERE IS ANYTHING WE CAN DO AS FAR AS ASSISTING W/EVACUATIONS, FIRE HAVING HARD TIME EVAC G DUE TO RESIDENTS
5:20AM   VISIBLE FIRE PER 101-21
5:13AM   101-21 COPYS SBSO RADIO ADV G FIRE STARTING IN GRASS VALLEY
Title: Re: Arrowhead Fire 10-22-07 Grass Valley
Post by: Wrightwood on Oct 22, 07, 07:55:45 AM: Smoke now showing at the old dump near Green Valley Lake
Title: Re: Arrowhead Fire 10-22-07 Grass Valley
Post by: Wrightwood on Oct 22, 07, 08:02:10 AM: Deep Creek and Green Valley Lake Rd (1/2 mile East)
2nd fire
Title: Re: Arrowhead Fire 10-22-07 Grass Valley
Post by: Wrightwood on Oct 22, 07, 08:06:34 AM: Quote from: Wrightwood on Oct 22, 07, 08:02:10 AM
Deep Creek and Green Valley Lake Rd (1/2 mile East)
2nd fire

1/4 acre rapid rate of spread
Title: Re: Arrowhead Fire 10-22-07 Grass Valley
Post by: Wrightwood on Oct 22, 07, 08:24:42 AM: Incident: 0240
Report of Fire   Location: N GRASS VALLEY RD AT EDGE CLIFF DR
ADDITIONAL DETAILS
8:21AM   MAIN FIRE NE GREEN VALLEY LAKE, GROWING RAPIDLY, CANNOT SEE LAKE BECAUSE OF HEAVY SMOKE, EST A COUPLE OF MILES -
8:21AM   A81 GOT WITHIN CPLE MILES OF FIRE, CAN T SEE THROUGH SMOKE BUT MAIN FIRE LOCATION IS JUST NORTHEAST OF GVL, GROWING RAPDLY FIRE IS WITHIN CPYS MILES
8:18AM   101-R8 GRANDVIEW AT NORTH RD OFF 189 IN TWIN PEAKS
Title: Re: Arrowhead Fire 10-22-07 Grass Valley
Post by: Wrightwood on Oct 22, 07, 08:32:03 AM: Green Valley Lake evacuations ordered
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Post by: Wrightwood on Oct 22, 07, 08:45:24 AM: Immediate evacuation of Green Valley Lake requested - spotting of fire 1/2 mile ahead of fire.
Title: Re: Arrowhead Fire 10-22-07 Grass Valley
Post by: Wrightwood on Oct 22, 07, 08:47:13 AM: Map of the area
http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/forestvisitormaps/sanbernardino/north/10.php
Title: Re: Arrowhead Fire 10-22-07 Grass Valley
Post by: Wrightwood on Oct 22, 07, 08:52:31 AM: The California Highway Patrol has closed all mountain roadways, including Highway 18, 330, 138, and 173, to non-residents.
Title: Re: Arrowhead Fire 10-22-07 Grass Valley
Post by: Wrightwood on Oct 22, 07, 09:00:17 AM: Grass Valley Fire
Over 200+ acres - Structure protection in place
Rapid rate of spread - Zero containment
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Post by: WWMtnGal on Oct 22, 07, 09:55:20 AM: At our office here in North San Bernardino the smoke is so bad the sun is turning orange and it is very heavy.
Title: Re: Arrowhead Fire 10-22-07 Grass Valley
Post by: Wildman on Oct 22, 07, 10:01:43 AM: This and the Green Valley Lake Fire have potential for exponential growth with limited resources available to assist. Latest reports are that winds are too severe for aircraft to be brought in at this time.

Unfortunately, San Bernardino County, unlike other surrounding counties, has no firefighting aircraft of their own but must depend on others for assistance. The only dedicated firefighting helo is leased to CALFIRE and is busy fighting fires on state land.
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Post by: angelwolf326 on Oct 22, 07, 10:28:44 AM: any news on silverwood?
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Post by: Calindy on Oct 22, 07, 10:49:03 AM: View from Phelan of fires in Arrowhead, Green Valley, & Silverwood....
(http://debmann.zenfolio.com/img/v2/p355945473-3.jpg)
(http://debmann.zenfolio.com/img/v2/p106489385-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Arrowhead Fire 10-22-07 Grass Valley
Post by: Wildman on Oct 22, 07, 10:52:24 AM: No fire at Silverwood. People saw smoke billowing over from Arrowhead Fires in the downward vortex on the windward/North side of the mountains.
Title: Re: Arrowhead Fire 10-22-07 Grass Valley
Post by: Wrightwood on Oct 22, 07, 10:53:24 AM: Quote from: Angelwolf on Oct 22, 07, 10:28:44 AM
any news on silverwood?

I'm not aware of any fire in the Silverwood Lake area at this time.

20+ homes have been lost in the Arrowhead area (ABC news helicopter)
Title: Re: Arrowhead Fire 10-22-07 Grass Valley
Post by: angelwolf326 on Oct 22, 07, 10:58:20 AM: thanks WM
Title: Re: Arrowhead Fire 10-22-07 Grass Valley
Post by: Wrightwood on Oct 22, 07, 10:58:41 AM: ABC news helicopter now reports 40-50 homes in Lake Arrowhead
Title: Re: Arrowhead Fire 10-22-07 Grass Valley
Post by: rdnckgrl78 on Oct 22, 07, 11:14:19 AM: I just came back from Hesperia...it looks terrible up in Arrowhead.
Title: Re: Arrowhead Fire 10-22-07 Grass Valley
Post by: Wrightwood on Oct 22, 07, 11:19:59 AM: EOC STATUS: San Bernardino County Operational Area EOC activated at Level II due to the fire and extreme weather.

WEATHER: Strong Santa Ana winds will continue today. A high wind warning remains in effect until 1800 hours today and a wind advisory remains in effect from 1800 Hours today until 1800 Hours Tuesday.
Title: Re: Arrowhead Fire 10-22-07 Grass Valley
Post by: Hillbillies on Oct 22, 07, 11:50:31 AM: Quote from: Wildman on Oct 22, 07, 10:01:43 AM
This and the Green Valley Lake Fire have potential for exponential growth with limited resources available to assist. Latest reports are that winds are too severe for aircraft to be brought in at this time.

Unfortunately, San Bernardino County, unlike other surrounding counties, has no firefighting aircraft of their own but must depend on others for assistance. The only dedicated firefighting helo is leased to CALFIRE and is busy fighting fires on state land.

This is some bad news....
Like I said, yesterday when we were up there the winds were REALLY strong. The lake had HUGE white caps. One employee at the restaurant we were eating at said she'd never seen the lake like that before. The thought of fire crossed my mind while we were shooting video.... This is ugly.

I heard on the radio that our DC-10 is grounded in Victorville until these winds die down......
Title: Re: Arrowhead Fire 10-22-07 Grass Valley
Post by: Chuck on Oct 22, 07, 11:51:03 AM: This is the view of the Arrowhead fire from Lone Pine Canyon. It's pretty scary. Not shown in the picture is a fire north or to the left.

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/chuck3195/LonePineCanyon.jpg)
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Post by: Nolena on Oct 22, 07, 11:52:05 AM: Quote from: Wrightwood on Oct 22, 07, 08:47:13 AM
Map of the area
http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/forestvisitormaps/sanbernardino/north/10.php

Can't get this map to work.
Title: Re: Arrowhead Fire 10-22-07 Grass Valley
Post by: Wrightwood on Oct 22, 07, 11:54:29 AM: It works for me
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Post by: Kimy1387 on Oct 22, 07, 12:12:20 PM: Is there a website to get the most recent fire info?
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Post by: Wildman on Oct 22, 07, 12:19:41 PM: Websites will be behind the curve with the rapid rate of spread. Try these sites....it is confusing going but they have some maps.

http://socalmountains.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?33549

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/breakingnews/

Suggest TV stations with helicopter coverage for most current (albeit confusing) information.
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Post by: Kimy1387 on Oct 22, 07, 12:32:06 PM: Thank-you WM.
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Post by: rdnckgrl78 on Oct 22, 07, 02:03:50 PM: ABC is stating over 70 homes burned
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Post by: Wrightwood on Oct 22, 07, 02:18:17 PM: Evacuees are being sent to the Orange Show Fairgrounds, 689 S. E St. San Bernardino, CA, 92408. Animal Control is establishing an emergency evacuation center for animals at Wildwood Park at 40th Street and Waterman in San Bernardino.
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Post by: Wrightwood on Oct 22, 07, 02:55:27 PM: Point of origin is directly below power lines in front of the power station.
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Post by: rdnckgrl78 on Oct 22, 07, 04:26:49 PM: Channel 7 helicopter is stating the winds have slowed down enough and water dropping helicopters are preparing to enter the fight against this fire.
Title: Re: Arrowhead Fire 10-22-07 Grass Valley
Post by: kk_gizmo on Oct 22, 07, 04:46:48 PM: Had a coworker who lives between Little Mountain and the San Bernardino Mountains by Cal State called home to evacuate. Neighbors said the Lake Arrowhead fire charged over the hill and down into that area. Anyone know if this is true?
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Post by: WWMtnGal on Oct 22, 07, 04:50:20 PM: I know that the Little Mountain fire has caused some evacuations, I do not think it was caused by the Lake Arrowhead fire.

The I215 northbound is closed right now at University Parkway because of the Little Mountain fire.
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Post by: rdnckgrl78 on Oct 22, 07, 04:54:42 PM: Air support is now dropping water in Arrowhead.
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Post by: superMom on Oct 22, 07, 05:20:36 PM: Just watched the DC-10 drop Foscheck live on channel 4 - it was great to see the aircraft in the air, if only for an hour or so!
Title: Re: Arrowhead Fire 10-22-07 Grass Valley
Post by: Wildman on Oct 22, 07, 05:33:24 PM: Quote from: kk_gizmo on Oct 22, 07, 04:46:48 PM
Had a coworker who lives between Little Mountain and the San Bernardino Mountains by Cal State called home to evacuate. Neighbors said the Lake Arrowhead fire charged over the hill and down into that area. Anyone know if this is true?

Little Mountain Fire has nothing to do with the Lake Arrowhead Fires. They are twelve miles apart. Little Mountain has burned every year for 30 years that I can remember.
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Post by: kew on Oct 22, 07, 05:44:54 PM: Wildman - Are you still local or have you been deployed?
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Post by: Calindy on Oct 22, 07, 08:07:57 PM: Tonight's view from Phelan
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/Calindy/IMG_0513.jpg)
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Post by: Twist on Oct 22, 07, 08:15:43 PM: Calindy - Where is that photo taken from? If it is from Phelan - it looks like the fire is very close to us. :-\
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Post by: Wildman on Oct 22, 07, 08:24:37 PM: Quote from: Ken on Oct 22, 07, 05:44:54 PM
Wildman - Are you still local or have you been deployed?
I have been activated but don't know my assignment. Our Team was in the barrel but because of the San Diego Fires and LA fires, our team couldn't take the Lake A
rrowhead assignment. A team from Northern CA came down. I report in the morning.
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Post by: kew on Oct 22, 07, 08:30:58 PM: Stay safe!!!!
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Post by: angelwolf326 on Oct 22, 07, 08:37:40 PM: I second that! Be safe and God Bless all of you great people for risking your lives to save others!
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Post by: Wildman on Oct 22, 07, 08:53:43 PM: Always. The folks on the ground and in the air are the ones risking everything. Anymore, I just talk about them.
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Post by: Hillbillies on Oct 22, 07, 09:40:33 PM: Thanks for all you do Wildman!

Here is what we filmed up at Lake Arrowhead this past weekend. I wonder what it's going to look like after this is all said and done.... :-\

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ojJoTriuXg
Title: Re: Arrowhead Fire 10-22-07 Grass Valley
Post by: angelwolf326 on Oct 22, 07, 09:46:14 PM: WOw HB and Mrs HB, great great video!!!
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Post by: Calindy on Oct 22, 07, 09:51:31 PM: Quote from: Twist on Oct 22, 07, 08:15:43 PM
Calindy - Where is that photo taken from? If it is from Phelan - it looks like the fire is very close to us. :-\
Optical Illusion, and a 400mm telephoto lens! It (and this)was taken from the area of Baldy Mesa & Phelan Rd.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/Calindy/IMG_0547ARROWHEAD_edited-1.jpg)
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Post by: Hillbillies on Oct 22, 07, 09:54:29 PM: Thanks Angelwolf. But right now all we are thinking about are the families and fire crews.... It's just so weird that we were up there this weekend having a great time, and then yesterday the winds picked up and I was having bad thoughts about fire.

I am currently taking my FEMA cert. We may have to house and feed some of these folks down in the desert like we did it in October of 03.
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Post by: angelwolf326 on Oct 22, 07, 09:55:34 PM: Yes, I agree. I am preparing some clothes from myself and my husband that we don't need for donation to those that have lost everything.

If anyone knows where these should be taken to, please post.
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Post by: Calindy on Oct 22, 07, 10:15:33 PM: In 2003 when after we were evacuated (and luckily we got to go home), we took clothes, etc to the evacuation center which was the old NAFB, I guess it is the Orange Show now. Once the 15 is open I am sure we can take the items to the Orange Show.
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Post by: angelwolf326 on Oct 22, 07, 10:16:38 PM: Great I work near there.
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Post by: Wrightwood on Oct 23, 07, 09:27:24 AM: The fire has now jumped the 330 and structures are on fire and heading towards Old City Creek.
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Post by: Wrightwood on Oct 23, 07, 09:30:57 AM: CHP Website
Report of Fire
Location: OLD CITY CREEK RD JNO SR330
ADDITIONAL DETAILS
9:28AM ACTIVE FIRE, 1 STRUCTURE THREATENED
Title: Re: Arrowhead Fire 10-22-07 Grass Valley
Post by: Wrightwood on Oct 23, 07, 09:56:23 AM: Topic locked

Please see:
Grass Valley Fire - Northwest of Lake Arrowhead
or
Slide Fire - Green Valley Lake, Near Running Springs