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Public Forums => Disaster Awareness & CERT => Topic started by: Wrightwood on Jan 22, 08, 06:51:48 PM
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Let's see how well you can do.
I missed one ::)
http://www.wrightwoodcalif.com/kw6ww/misc/quake_part2.swf
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I missed 2 :-\
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ugh.. i missed the gas one and the drinking water...
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I missed two of them, don't remember whick ones. :2thumbsup:
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I missed two of them, don't remember whick ones. :2thumbsup:
Then you should take it again 8)
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I missed the park one :-X
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I got one wrong. Luckily, I now know what to do if Im at the park and a quake hits.
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I missed 2.... but on the flip side I do have a ---l and a way to ---l water....
Edited by Admin ;)
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Please don't give away all the answers in your posts 8)
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I missed the park one :-X
Same one I missed. D-oh :P
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I scored 100%. But then if I missed one I would not be very good at what I do for a living!
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Missed one, and should have gotten it, but my response was one of looking to professionals to do what I would need to do.
Since so many on line are in the fire-fighting biz, I am sure you will all get it right :D
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I missed one.. the gas question
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Missed one. But I can't see all of the wording of the "C" answers. :P
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I got em all right, and enjoyed myself, thanks :2thumbsup:
john
www.roenation.com
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Missed three.
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Missed 5.........guess I'm going to die in THE BIG ONE
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I missed four, but then I only have half a brain so I nearly got a hundred percent.
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100% thanks CERT Classes
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EARTHQUAKE SAVING TECHNIQUE
EXTRACT FROM DOUG COPP'S ARTICLE ON THE: 'TRIANGLE OF LIFE'
My name is Doug Copp. I am the Rescue Chief and Disaster Manager of the
American Rescue Team International (ARTI), the world's most experienced
rescue team. The information in this article will save lives in an
earthquake.
I have crawled inside 875 collapsed buildings, worked with rescue teams from
60 countries, founded rescue teams in several countries, and I am a member
of many rescue teams from many countries.
I was the United Nations expert in Disaster Mitigation for two years. I have
worked at every major disaster in the world since 1985, except for
simultaneous disasters.
The first building I ever crawled inside of was a school in Mexico City
during the 1985 earthquake. Every child was under its desk. Every child was
crushed to the thickness of their bones. They could have survived by lying
down next to their desks in the aisles. It was obscene, unnecessary and I
wondered why the children were not in the aisles. I didn't at the time know
that the children were told to hide under something. I am amazed that even
today schools are still using the 'Duck and Cover' instructions- telling the
children to squat under their desks with their heads bowed and covered with
their hands. This was the technique used in the Mexico City school.
Simply stated, when buildings collapse, the weight of the ceilings falling
upon the objects or furniture inside crushes these objects, leaving a space
or void next to them. This space is what I call the 'triangle of life'. The
larger the object, the stronger, the less it will compact. The less the
object compacts, the larger the void, the greater the probability that the
person who is using this void for safety will not be injured. The next time
you watch collapsed buildings, on television, count the 'triangles' you see
formed. They are everywhere. It is the most common shape, you will see, in a
collapsed building.
TIPS FOR EARTHQUAKE SAFETY
1) Almost everyone who simply 'ducks and covers' when buildings collapse ARE
CRUSHED TO DEATH. People who get under objects, like desks or cars, are
crushed.
2) Cats, dogs and babies often naturally curl up in the fetal position. You
should too in an earthquake. It is a natural safety/survival instinct. That
position helps you survive in a smaller void. Get next to an object, next to
a sofa, next to a large bulky object that will compress slightly but leave a
void next to it.
3) Wooden buildings are the safest type of construction to be in during an
earthquake. Wood is flexible and moves with the force of the earthquake. If
the wooden building does collapse, large survival voids are created. Also,
the wooden building has less concentrated, crushing weight. Brick buildings
will break into individual bricks. Bricks will cause many injuries but less
squashed bodies than concrete slabs. Concrete slab buildings are the most
dangerous during an earthquake.
4) If you are in bed during the night and an earthquake occurs, simply roll
off the bed. A safe void will exist around the bed. Hotels can achieve a
much greater survival rate in earthquakes, simply by posting a sign on the
back of the door of every room telling occupants to lie down on the floor,
next to the bottom of the bed during an earthquake.
5) If an earthquake happens and you cannot easily escape by getting out the
door or window, then lie down and curl up in the fetal position next to a
sofa, or large chair.
6) Almost everyone who gets under a doorway when buildings collapse is
killed. How? If you stand under a doorway and the doorjamb falls forward or
backward you will be crushed by the ceiling above. If the door jam falls
sideways you will be cut in half by the doorway. In either case, you will be
killed!
7) Never go to the stairs. The stairs have a different 'moment of frequency
(they swing separately from the main part of the building). The stairs and
remainder of the building continuously bump into each other until structural
failure of the stairs takes place. The people who get on stairs before they
fail are chopped up by the stair treads ? horribly mutilated. Even if the
building doesn't collapse, stay away from the stairs. The stairs are a
likely part of the building to be damaged. Even if the stairs are not
collapsed by the earthquake, they may collapse later when overloaded by
fleeing people. They should always be checked for safety, even when the rest
of the building is not damaged.
8) Get Near the Outer Walls Of Buildings Or Outside Of Them If Possible - It
is much better to be near the outside of the building rather than the
interior. The farther inside you are from the outside perimeter of the
building the greater the probability that your escape route will be blocked.
9) People inside of their vehicles are crushed when the road above falls in
an earthquake and crushes their vehicles; which is exactly what happened
with the slabs between the decks of the Nimitz Freeway. The victims of the
San Francisco earthquake all stayed inside of their vehicles. They were all
killed. They could have easily survived by getting out and lying in the
fetal position next to their vehicles. Everyone killed would have survived
if they had been able to get out of their cars and sit or lie next to them.
All the crushed cars had voids 3 feet high next to them, except for the cars
that had columns fall directly across them.
10) I discovered, while crawling inside of collapsed newspaper offices and
other offices with a lot of paper, that paper does not compact. Large voids
are found surrounding stacks of paper.
In 1996 we made a film, which proved my survival methodology to be correct.
The Turkish Federal Government, City of Istanbul , University of Istanbul
Case Productions and ARTI cooperated to film this practical, scientific
test. We collapsed a school and a home with 20 mannequins inside. Ten
mannequins did 'duck and cover,' and ten mannequins I used in my 'triangle
of life' survival method. After the simulated earthquake collapse we crawled
through the rubble and entered the building to film and document the
results.
The film, in which I practiced my survival techniques under directly
observable, scientific conditions, relevant to building collapse, showed
there would have been zero percent survival for those doing duck and cover.
There would likely have been 100 percent survivability for people using my
method of the 'triangle of life.' This film has been seen by millions of
viewers on television in Turkey and the rest of Europe , and it was seen in
the USA , Canada and Latin America on the TV program Real TV.
Spread the word and save someone's life... The entire world is experiencing
natural calamities so be prepared!
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Ladies and Gentlemen:
Recently I have had several people ask about earthquake information related to the TRI-ANGLE OF LIFE.
Some have asked that this be passed on throughout the organization. After speaking to the folks at CALEMA and the County Fire USAR you need to be aware that this information and that the individuals and organization involved has been discredited by multiple organizations.
Below is additional information from Mark Basset director of Southern Region CALEMA. Please feel free to forward this on to other people. Under no circumstances should the Tri-Angle of Life be taught.
Zack Mullennix, CRO
San Bernardino County Fire ECS
As is now common after large earthquakes, an email with "new" advice for what to do during earthquakes ("triangle of life") is being circulated by well-intending people who don't know that the information is dangerous and that its advocate has been broadly discredited.
You may be receiving questions about this information. If so, please send them the following message (or rewrite it as needed). Schools, businesses, and families are changing their policies in ways that will expose many people to serious injury, and we must act quick before the information spreads further.
Thank you!
Mark
Dear XXXX,
Thank you for contacting me about this issue. The email you received has been forwarded for many years. While it seems credible, it actually contains dangerous recommendations and is promoted by someone who has been broadly discredited.
To learn more, please visit: www.earthquakecountry.org/dropcoverholdon
PLEASE send this link to the person who sent the "triangle of life"
information to you, and request that they send it to whoever sent it to them and also to whoever they sent it. This way the
misinformation can be corrected.
For what to do during an earthquake, visit: www.dropcoverholdon.org
If you are in California, registration is now open for the 2010 Great California ShakeOut earthquake drill on October 21, 2010! Visit www.ShakeOut.org for more details and to register.
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Just another so called expert who is compelety full of it.
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/triangle.asp
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THANK YOU so much for responding about the triangle of life being foolishness at best and potentially dangerous at worst. My brother is the Director of the Earth Sciences Department at CSUF and has a PhD in Geophysics. I can honestly say that few things get him as heated up as this topic. He once spent an hour (at least) explaining how this whole thing came about. Now I try to repeat his logic to people who, with well placed intentions, try to convince myself and others that this makes perfect sense. The more people with credible positions that de-bunk this quickly growing myth the better!
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Wrightwood Fire Captain Wayne Bennett discusses "Triangle of Life" vs. Duck, Cover & Hold
http://www.disasterpreparedness101.com/
(near the bottom of the page)
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One thing that I learned during emergency evacuations and such is that your emergency kits need to contain supplies for extra people, not just those in your home.
There will always be one or more friends, family members, or acquaintances with whom you will want/need to share during times of need.
Happened to me during the evacuation.
Pack some extra.