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Title: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: Calindy on Nov 15, 08, 09:59:59 AM
Besides Sylmar, there is now a fire on the 91 and Green River Rd, near homes...
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: Calindy on Nov 15, 08, 10:37:52 AM
91 Freeway now CLOSED!
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in BREA!
Post by: Elk on Nov 15, 08, 11:19:14 AM
New separate fire burning in Brea near Carbon Canyon Park and the Orange County Landfill. Area of Lambert Road/Carbon Cyn Rd. and Valencia. Structure Protection in place!

Corona Fire now into Yorba Linda area per Channel 4 NBC news which is now over both with a news helicopter!
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in RANCHO PALOS VERDES
Post by: Elk on Nov 15, 08, 11:33:36 AM
RANCHO PALOS VERDES

FOX Channel 11 is now reporting another new fire in Rancho Palos Verdes.
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: angelwolf326 on Nov 15, 08, 12:09:28 PM
This is scary, I am out of town and my mom nor husband have access to the computer during the day.  Just the local news.

If anything happens that at all may affect us, can someone please call me?

662-8395.

Thanks so much!
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in RANCHO PALOS VERDES
Post by: Elk on Nov 15, 08, 12:53:33 PM
RANCHO PALOS VERDES

FOX Channel 11 is now reporting another new fire in Rancho Palos Verdes.

This fire was quickly knock down and is under control. Per KFI AM 640.
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: Calindy on Nov 15, 08, 03:32:18 PM
To make matters worse, the firemen at the Anaheim Hills fire DO NOT HAVE ANY WATER! They interviewed a fireman and he said he does not know why, and there are houses burning and the fireman cannot do anything!
We have been watching the DC-10 going in and out of SCLA, too bad they did not have more of them!
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: Chuck on Nov 15, 08, 05:04:42 PM
We had to evacuate my mother in law from Yorba Linda today. It is amazing how fast things happen.   Not to much after this picture things broke loose 


(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/chuck3195/ResizeofIMG_4972.jpg)

This is the view from the north side using Carbon Canon Road to get back to Wrightwood.


(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/chuck3195/ResizeofIMG_4987.jpg)
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: Chuck on Nov 15, 08, 05:18:10 PM
From the 210 you see how the fires stretch from east to west.  On the left is the Yorba Linda area and then off to the right is Brea.  The only access was Carbon Canyon (now closed I believe).

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/chuck3195/aIMG_4981_edited-1.jpg) 
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: ChrisLynnet on Nov 15, 08, 05:32:11 PM
Oh dear, I have friends down there with kids. We haven't heard anything from them yet, they would have been coming back from Pasadena. I doubt they could have gotten home before the area was evacuated, but they must be worried about their house.

On another note, I didn't know you could get to WW from Carbon Canyon Rd. Where does it come out?
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: Chuck on Nov 15, 08, 05:50:22 PM
From Imperial Highway you take Rose north to Carbon Canyon Road.  You take it east to the 71.
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: ChattyCathy on Nov 15, 08, 06:34:08 PM
My son lives across from Cal State Fullerton which is between Brea and Yorba Linda.  The roads are totally back up, there is a lot of ash, and the sky was black well before sunset.

I lived in Yorba Linda before moving to Wrightwood.  We know of one person who has lost their home.  The fires are about 2 miles from where we lived - it's unabelievable seeing these familiar spots up in flames.
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: ChrisLynnet on Nov 15, 08, 07:12:08 PM
Thank you Chuck.

And Chatty, it is weird to watch an area where you used to live burn. I had that experience last year -- or the year before? -- when parts of Santa Clarita were on fire.
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: Elk on Nov 15, 08, 08:01:31 PM
Both the Yorba Linda fire and the Brea fire can clearly be seen from Hwy 2 about 1 1/2 miles west of Grassy Hollow. During the day it was hard to distinguish the two, but in the dark you can see the separation

Very disturbing sight!
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: Patchylou on Nov 15, 08, 11:21:25 PM
I lived in WW for 5 years and was never as close to losing my home as I am right now.  Crazy!  My husband & I live in Brea and our neighborhood is currently in a voluntary evacuation area.  We've got everything ready to go if we need to.  For me this is so reminiscent of October '03.  Just being glued to the TV and one story after another of families losing homes.

This was taken outside my front door.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/patchylou/11-09%20fire/DSC06185.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/patchylou/11-09%20fire/DSC06183.jpg)

This was taken in a neighborhood just a bit north of our home.  They were under a mandatory evacuation. 
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/patchylou/11-09%20fire/DSC06201.jpg)


Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: Patchylou on Nov 16, 08, 07:01:07 AM
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/fire-map-orange-2191967-county-perimeter
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: free2bee on Nov 16, 08, 08:07:09 AM
Anyone know where and now we can help? Please just reply. If there is a group of us we can go together.
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: Calindy on Nov 16, 08, 11:54:46 AM
This is one busy DC-10!
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y63/Calindy/IMG_9675.jpg)
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: Tomas on Nov 19, 08, 04:16:22 PM
Here is some interesting footage from the 91 Freeway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QYT3ASpKSU&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QYT3ASpKSU&feature=related)
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: lagomorphmom on Nov 19, 08, 05:21:16 PM
Here is some interesting footage from the 91 Freeway.
Saw it on the news this morning. Evidently it was 5 classical musicians going to a gig. They had checked with best online/news info and supposedly the freeway was clear and fire not 'close' when they left. I have to say, I'm pretty surprised that the fwy wasn't closed in their direction with the other side involved at all, let alone all the way to the center divider...
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: ChrisLynnet on Nov 19, 08, 06:09:24 PM
Oh my gosh, that was amazing. You know, sometimes those fires shift direction and move so fast that there is no way to close a freeway on time. My best friend was confronted by a sudden wall of fire on the 15/215 during 2003 when Old Fire/Grand Prix met in the middle! The only thing she could do was gun the engine and ram through it. She came out O.K., but boy was she shaken up. I know I would be.
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: Chuck on Nov 19, 08, 08:24:38 PM
We were able to return my mother in law today.  We drove around her streets and found some interesting sights.  Those plastic white fences melt

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/chuck3195/Resizeofplasticfence.jpg) 

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/chuck3195/Resizeofplasticfence2.jpg)

This RV lot is just around the corner from her house.  This used to be a 5th Wheel

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/chuck3195/rv.jpg)

Just around the corner this one lone house caught fire

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/chuck3195/Resizeofhouse.jpg)

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/chuck3195/Resizeofburnedhouse.jpg)

At our Fire Safe Council meeting last night Cal Fire was speaking about Ember Intrusion and how the problem is amplified by high winds.  Attic vents are areas for ember intrusion.  If your vent screen allows a pencil to be inserted, it's easy for embers to enter, especially by high winds.  In this case the fire from the RV area (and the Wildfire itself) most likely entered via the two pictured vents directly facing the high wind and RV Fire.  Whether it entered the attic area, or the garage area (lower vent), it probably started that way.  If the embers entered the garage and they had what they thought was protected flammable items, boom!  We all need to focus on these weak areas where embers can easily enter our homes.  And, your garage might not be as safe as you thought.  Be careful what your store and where you store it.   

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/chuck3195/atticvent.jpg)     

garage vent

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/chuck3195/venttogarage.jpg) 

I invite some of our agency friends to comment on the above.....   

Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: Tumblebush on Nov 20, 08, 07:18:49 AM
Wow! glad your mother in law is safe and sound and thanks for keeping us posted.

About  garage and crawl space vents....they make ones that you can shut completely when you need to, we have them installed around our house. We even made special flaps for the attic vent so if we need to close them down, which we've had to in the past.


garage vent

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/chuck3195/venttogarage.jpg) 



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Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: Tumblebush on Nov 20, 08, 07:42:09 AM
These are the vents we use. Just walk around the outside of the house...pull the little bar and they are closed. :2thumbsup:

(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/16/l_d3d95fdebb5f4850839b52d7eeffcb0c.jpg)
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: lagomorphmom on Nov 20, 08, 07:56:31 AM
Tumblebush, do you have a brand name and/or store if it's a national/online store?
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: Tumblebush on Nov 20, 08, 08:08:45 AM
Tumblebush, do you have a brand name and/or store if it's a national/online store?

<as she catches her breath and warms her fingers up after running outside to look>

All that is stamped on them is Net Free Zone and then the diameters, but we bought them at a store called Ziggy's that's here in WA.. I'm sure Mountain Hardware might even be able to order them since they are a Do It Center.
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: Tumblebush on Nov 20, 08, 08:24:32 AM
Just looked....you can order them from Mountain Hardware

They are called Foundation Vents

<as she catches her breath and warms her fingers up after running outside to look>

All that is stamped on them is Net Free Zone and then the diameters, but we bought them at a store called Ziggy's that's here in WA.. I'm sure Mountain Hardware might even be able to order them since they are a Do It Center.
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: Wrightwood on Nov 20, 08, 09:25:40 AM
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: SkierBob on Nov 20, 08, 09:45:27 AM
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: Tumblebush on Nov 20, 08, 09:57:21 AM
Amazing video..  Those houses had no 100ft high Pine Trees around them.   There would be no stopping a fire like that in WW. It would burn the community to the ground, fire proof attic vents or not.   It's down right scary to think about.

Impressive video

yupper..like I said before, high winds like that...you are at the mercy of Mother Nature. Unless you're living in a bomb shelter.

I lived in the midwest and have seen homes wiped out by grass fires and no trees for miles.
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: Tumblebush on Nov 20, 08, 10:11:04 AM
I'm just glad we had closing vents a few years back...

We didn't have gail force winds but they were strong enough to blow hot embers into our field and around our house.

Heck, we even close them off when we burn our slash piles around the house. All it takes is one little ember to make it in.
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: Wrightwood on Jun 17, 09, 07:04:01 AM
Title: Re: Wildfires...Now one in Corona
Post by: K9luvr on Jun 17, 09, 03:45:09 PM
Yep--that's why we call 'em "catastrophic converters"    :P