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Title: Mink Sighting
Post by: Tall Trees on Mar 02, 15, 10:09:20 PM
I have reports of a Mink having been observed for the past few months on a fairly regular basis near the County line in the residential area.  I wonder where it came from and this is right up there with reports of porcupines in Lupine Campground and Grouse on Mt. Islip.  We have several sensitive and endangered species in the Forest like Spotted Owls and Big Horn Sheep so it might not be to far flung that other species might exist here as well.  I heard a wild Turkey gobble one time at Apple tree Campground but was not able to locate it. 
Title: Re: Mink Sighting
Post by: Joe Schmoe on Mar 02, 15, 10:37:27 PM
Maybe a Pine Marten?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/Snowmarten.jpg)

As for Turkeys, we've seen them in abundance on Mt. Palomar for what that's worth.  They strolled right by the car in no hurry.
Title: Re: Mink Sighting
Post by: RobertW on Mar 03, 15, 08:01:38 AM
Title: Re: Mink Sighting
Post by: Jeremy on Mar 03, 15, 08:08:22 AM
I can't wait for feral pigs to make their way over here  :2thumbsup:

I've seen that marten a couple times on hwy two, both times within 100 yards.

The other day I found evidence of beavers, a first for me

(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy68/MurdaJ469/64F336A3-5931-4360-B610-DC6CF1051CE5_zpsg6efiuo9.jpg) (http://s778.photobucket.com/user/MurdaJ469/media/64F336A3-5931-4360-B610-DC6CF1051CE5_zpsg6efiuo9.jpg.html)
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy68/MurdaJ469/9DAE2889-CCC4-46E2-B946-95A8859209E4_zpsw6bytenq.jpg) (http://s778.photobucket.com/user/MurdaJ469/media/9DAE2889-CCC4-46E2-B946-95A8859209E4_zpsw6bytenq.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Mink Sighting
Post by: SkierBob on Mar 03, 15, 10:06:15 AM


yikes really?  I like bacon as much as anyone but feral pigs  are very destructive and invasive. It wouldn't be the best thing for the forest. 
Title: Re: Mink Sighting
Post by: Wrightwood on Mar 03, 15, 10:40:44 AM
Off the Mink Sighting topic...
Last July a few of us from the Fire Safe Council attended a field trip to the Descanso Ranger District of the Cleveland National Forest (NF), where several sites were visited covering the current wild pig situation on the NF.  They found the guy who intentionally released pigs into the wild for hunting purposes and a few years later large areas of forest look like a war zone.

http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5313597.pdf (http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5313597.pdf)
Title: Re: Mink Sighting
Post by: Jeremy on Mar 03, 15, 12:33:27 PM
I wouldnt introduce any non native species but i would enjoy the hunting.

Afaik there are not many pigs in cleveland nf public land. If so, give me some coordinates and let me know how much bacon you want.
Title: Re: Mink Sighting
Post by: Tall Trees on Mar 03, 15, 03:30:11 PM
My neighbors have been trying to trap the critter and I thought maybe it was someones pet that escaped.  If it is a natural occurring weasel the Pine Martin is definitely a more likely species that one might encounter.  The Mink is semi-aquatic and has different behaviors and ranges than the Pine Martin.  The range of the Pine Martins and their behavior and diet would be more suitable to the San Gabriels than the Mink.  If the critter is trapped or photographed I'll post a picture     
Title: Re: Mink Sighting
Post by: ralberts630 on Mar 03, 15, 06:34:50 PM
I saw a Pine Marten one night a few months ago near the corner of Lone Pine and East Canyon.
Title: Re: Mink Sighting
Post by: cedar on Mar 04, 15, 04:05:17 PM
My neighbors have been trying to trap the critter and I thought maybe it was someones pet that escaped.  If it is a natural occurring weasel the Pine Martin is definitely a more likely species that one might encounter.    If the critter is trapped or photographed I'll post a picture     

Please do not trap the mink / martin!  There are motion activated cameras that could let you know what it is without traumatizing / damaging it.  It would be great to have Martins as part of the Wrightwood wildlife.
Title: Re: Mink Sighting
Post by: Tall Trees on Mar 04, 15, 04:40:11 PM
My neighbors told me the trap did not work and was ineffective and they basically gave up trying to capture it.  It appears the weasel has a den under a nearby storage shed and has been seen often in the mornings.  If someone has one of those game cameras I would love to set it up for a week or two and see if we get a picture of the critter.
Title: Re: Mink Sighting
Post by: Jim Wilkins on Mar 04, 15, 11:39:05 PM
I remember when Wrightwood got a picture of a Ringtail Cat on his porch. 
Title: Re: Mink Sighting
Post by: Tall Trees on Mar 06, 15, 06:29:58 PM
My friends are certain that they have seen a brown Mink around lately and today I asked them if it could have been a Pine Martin or Ring Tailed Cat.  My friend quickly pulled out his iPhone and looked up the other species on Google and was very certain that it was the Mink.  He even mentioned to me that he saw the Mink on his way to work today and the critter ran under my front poach.  When I got home from work I looked in the snow and found these animal tracks that appear to be Mink.  I compared the tracks to the Pine Martin and Gray Squirrel and they match closest to a Mink.

(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o505/rheinig/3-07-15%20Mink%20Tracks%20009_zpssanqjmqc.jpg)
Title: Re: Mink Sighting
Post by: SkierBob on Mar 13, 15, 02:10:16 PM
I wouldnt introduce any non native species but i would enjoy the hunting.

Afaik there are not many pigs in cleveland nf public land. If so, give me some coordinates and let me know how much bacon you want.

hey Jeremy have you ever tried cooking bacon this way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7UW5AkWqOY&feature=player_embedded (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7UW5AkWqOY&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: Mink Sighting
Post by: Tall Trees on Mar 15, 15, 09:45:41 PM
I wont mention any names but, Jeremy sent me a pm last week and we talked on the phone and he was going to loan me a trail Cam.  He did not follow through on his offer and did not call me back, I guess he must have been busy?  My friend Skitter from Big Pines loaned me one of his trail cams last week and so far I photographed a Ground Squirrel and a cat.  No sign of the mink yet.  I will post a picture of the cat in case someone recognizes it.
Title: Re: Mink Sighting
Post by: Tall Trees on Mar 19, 15, 08:20:26 PM
The trail cam captured several pictures of the Mink yesterday.  It is dark brown and appears to be female from its size.  The trail Cam had pictures of the mink perched on a boulder sunning itself, coming out of the burrow under the shed and runing around the yard at different times.  I repositioned the Trail Cam to try and get a closer picture. 

(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o505/rheinig/054%20-%20Copy_zpstrtunlna.jpg)
Title: Re: Mink Sighting
Post by: Jeremy on Mar 19, 15, 08:25:00 PM
Nice pic.

Ears appear larger and more pointed and the nose more blunt than the pics of minks I have seen

Maybe a melanistic fox squirrel?(http://onlyagame.typepad.com/only_a_game/images/2007/11/05/black_squirrel.jpg)

The tail is a bit different though
Title: Re: Mink Sighting
Post by: Tall Trees on Mar 19, 15, 08:42:10 PM
The tail was early 9 inches and it was brown.  The exterior panels on the shed are 12 inches wide.
Title: Re: Mink Sighting
Post by: Jeremy on Mar 19, 15, 08:42:44 PM
And as far as the snow tracks, those look more like squirrel than mink to me.

Squirrel
(https://naturallycuriouswithmaryholland.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/1-3-12-red-squirrel-tracks-img_6722.jpg)

Mink
(http://www.deerdance.org/Images/images/mink/mink_04.jpg)
Title: Re: Mink Sighting
Post by: Joe Schmoe on Mar 19, 15, 09:35:25 PM
Pretty sure that's a mangy squirrel.  The proportions are wrong for a weasel - each body segment is too short.  Is that photo the best resolution you have?

Here's an enhanced version.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7606/16843759606_c3e67bcf60_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Mink Sighting
Post by: Tall Trees on Mar 20, 15, 05:17:45 PM
Here is another picture.  Look at the animal sunning itself on the rock to the left of the shed.  I think Jeremy and Joe Schmoe are both correct in that this critter may be a Melanistic Ground Squirrel.

(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o505/rheinig/055_zps7nhmvszn.jpg)
Title: Re: Mink Sighting
Post by: Tall Trees on Mar 20, 15, 08:00:24 PM
The Tasco trail camera captured this picture today of a black California Ground Squirrel.  Melanism is the opposite of albino and is extremely rare in animals.  I repositioned the trail camera in an attempt to get some more pictures with better definition. 
 
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o505/rheinig/3-20-2015%20003_zpsndj3heno.jpg)
Title: Re: Mink Sighting
Post by: Wrightwood on Mar 20, 15, 08:13:56 PM
Very interesting
Thanks Ron....

I remember my quest for the ringtail cat photos  ;)