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Title: Fire at East Canyon - Zermatt Incident 6-17-17
Post by: MerlinSilk on Jun 17, 17, 12:31:44 PM
Anybody knows anything more than what I can see from my window up on top of Desert View?
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon
Post by: ChrisLynnet on Jun 17, 17, 12:45:25 PM
I was wondering why a helicopter kept flying overhead. Now I know.  :o
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon
Post by: makgirl on Jun 17, 17, 12:49:57 PM
fire and sheriff dispatch online:

http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/19088/web
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon
Post by: Tomas on Jun 17, 17, 12:50:55 PM
5 - 7 acre fire in heavy fuels with a moderate rate of spread. It is near the area of Zermatt and Pacific Crest.

Resources have been dispatched for structure protection.
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon
Post by: sagespirit on Jun 17, 17, 12:51:37 PM
Yes, I've heard the chopper as well, which drove me to check the Forum.  Going overhead now, again. Please update. How close, How large. Thanks.
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon
Post by: Jim Wilkins on Jun 17, 17, 12:58:05 PM
Very large Air Tanker on final for the Wrightwood fire.  Be advised that the aircraft can drop retardant that is extremely heavy and can flatten a car or truck if in the path of the drop.  Humans fare very poorly when hit with these drops. 
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon
Post by: AvocadoFlyer on Jun 17, 17, 01:03:55 PM
Again?  Another fire???   >:(  Does anyone have a map of where this fire is? 
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon
Post by: makgirl on Jun 17, 17, 01:07:22 PM
Again?  Another fire???   >:(  Does anyone have a map of where this fire is? 

Incident:  00221   Type:    Report of Fire   Location:   Sr138 / Lone Pine Canyon Rd  Loc Desc: ZERMATT/PACIFIC CREST    Lat/Lon:  34.315882 -117.495555   Close
Detail Information
12:47 PM   8   [48] PER 81 FIRE REQ HARD CLOSURE AT LONE PINE BTWN SUMMIT AND EASTER // ALSO AT THE BOTTOM OF LONE PINE AT SR138 // AND AT WRIGHT RD AT SR2 [Shared]
12:37 PM   7   [44] 12-S4 ADV IF HARD CLOSURE NEEDED WE WILL ADV CG [Shared]
12:35 PM   6   [41] [Notification] [CHP]-SBSO REQ CLOSURE AT SR2/WRIGHT FOR NO ENTRY INTO WRIGHTWOOD AREA [Shared]
12:27 PM   5   [35] [35] 12-S4 COPIES FIRE IN MTNS[Shared]
12:11 PM   4   [29] [29] [Appended, 12:11:45] [1] FIRE INTO MTNS[Shared]
12:03 PM   3   [8] [8] [Appended, 12:04:11] [1] FIRE INTO MTNS[Shared]
12:01 PM   2   [6] [6] 152 WILL GO CHECK THE AREA - CAN SEE A LOT OF SMOKE IN THE AREA[Shared]
12:01 PM   1   [2] [2] A LOT OF BLACK SMOKE IN THE AREA - COM CENTER SHOULD BE GOING 97 [Shared]
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon
Post by: ChrisLynnet on Jun 17, 17, 01:13:02 PM
Yes, I've heard the chopper as well, which drove me to check the Forum. 

Me too! I had visions of an escaped bad guy before I checked the Forum.
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon
Post by: onhands on Jun 17, 17, 01:22:38 PM
Very large Air Tanker on final for the Wrightwood fire.  Be advised that the aircraft can drop retardant that is extremely heavy and can flatten a car or truck if in the path of the drop.  Humans fare very poorly when hit with these drops.

I sure hope everyone is staying out of their way.
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon
Post by: KW on Jun 17, 17, 01:28:28 PM
Mandatory evacuations between Lone Pine and Easter Drive, per the radio feed just now.
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon
Post by: jwhays661 on Jun 17, 17, 01:52:20 PM
I'm on summit. From my perspective looks very nearly knocked down. The very large tankers just fortified the southern flank, there's no fuel to the east and I only see white smoke coming out of the canyon to the north. Hand crews and bulldozer to the west between the fire and Pacific crest.
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon
Post by: angelwolf326 on Jun 17, 17, 02:00:26 PM
This air support is MASSIVE, sounds like a war zone but a GREAT zone.  THANK YOU to all involved!!!!
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon
Post by: angelwolf326 on Jun 17, 17, 02:01:13 PM
Very large Air Tanker on final for the Wrightwood fire.  Be advised that the aircraft can drop retardant that is extremely heavy and can flatten a car or truck if in the path of the drop.  Humans fare very poorly when hit with these drops.

Thank you Jim !!!!
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon
Post by: ChrisLynnet on Jun 17, 17, 02:01:47 PM
This air support is MASSIVE, sounds like a war zone but a GREAT zone.  THANK YOU to all involved!!!!

Music to our ears!  :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon
Post by: AvocadoFlyer on Jun 17, 17, 02:20:05 PM
This forum is invaluable!  Thanks for the updates.  I am overseas at the moment and this is my only way to connect with back home.  Glad the VLATS and the hand crews got the fire under control (or at least I hope they did). 
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon - Zermatt Incident 6-17-17
Post by: jwhays661 on Jun 17, 17, 02:47:46 PM
That was pretty amazing to watch. These folks know their work. I can't believe how quick all the pieces were in place and operational. Looks like mop up work now. Thanks to all the personnel that worked on this fire.
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon - Zermatt Incident 6-17-17
Post by: Wrightwood on Jun 17, 17, 02:53:54 PM
The Zermatt incident is approximately 7-9 acres. The area that burned is West of the Blue Cut dozer line and Pacific Crest/Chaumont Drive.
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon - Zermatt Incident 6-17-17
Post by: macred on Jun 17, 17, 02:54:43 PM
Can we get in and out of town yet? I mean by way of Hwy 2 and 138?
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon - Zermatt Incident 6-17-17
Post by: Elk on Jun 17, 17, 02:55:18 PM
From Twitter:
Angeles_NF?Verified account @Angeles_NF  13m13 minutes ago
More
 #Zermatt fire holding at 7 acres forward rate of progression stoped, handline around fire perimeter @SBCOUNTYFIRE @Firewise
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon - Zermatt Incident 6-17-17
Post by: Elk on Jun 17, 17, 02:59:50 PM
Can we get in and out of town yet? I mean by way of Hwy 2 and 138?
I came up 138 from the 15 thirty minutes ago.
Lone Pine Closed at 138. (There was a CHP unit sitting there stopping people.)
Hwy 2 open at Hwy 2.

From CHP Incident webpage:
2:28 PM 17 [88] [Appended, 14:30:25] [7] [Notification] [CHP]-PER 12-S4 WRIGHT RD IS CLOSED DWN AT SR2 / SR2 STILL OPEN [Shared]
2:27 PM 16 [80] 12-S4 WRIGHT RD IS CLOSED DOWN AT SR2 / SR2 IS STILL OPEN [Shared]
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon - Zermatt Incident 6-17-17
Post by: Wrightwood on Jun 17, 17, 03:15:02 PM
(http://www.wrightwoodcalif.com/Fires/MD_Zermatt.2.JPG)

(http://www.wrightwoodcalif.com/Fires/MD_Zermatt.1.JPG)
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon - Zermatt Incident 6-17-17
Post by: Nolena on Jun 17, 17, 03:20:57 PM
Thanks for all of the reports! I'm out of town, and always turn here for accurate information.  :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon - Zermatt Incident 6-17-17
Post by: Wrightwood on Jun 17, 17, 03:24:21 PM
(http://www.wrightwoodcalif.com/Fires/MD_Zermatt.3.JPG)

(http://www.wrightwoodcalif.com/Fires/MD_Zermatt.4.JPG)

(http://www.wrightwoodcalif.com/Fires/MD_Zermatt.5.JPG)

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Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon - Zermatt Incident 6-17-17
Post by: Wrightwood on Jun 17, 17, 04:05:15 PM
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon - Zermatt Incident 6-17-17
Post by: Wrightwood on Jun 17, 17, 04:14:37 PM
Incident:  00812   Type:    Report of Fire   Location:   Sr138 / Lone Pine Canyon Rd  Loc Desc:       Lat/Lon:  34.315882 -117.495555   
Detail Information
4:02 PM   25   [101] 12-S4 REQ TO INQ IF BERDOO STILL HAS THE BOTTOM OF LONE PINE CLOSED [Shared]
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon - Zermatt Incident 6-17-17
Post by: Wrightwood on Jun 17, 17, 04:45:12 PM
Incident:  00812   Type:    Report of Fire   Location:   Sr138 / Lone Pine Canyon Rd  Loc Desc:       Lat/Lon:  34.315882 -117.495555   
Detail Information
4:26 PM   28   [110] 12-S4 98 52 WILL CON'T TO MONITOR THE MTN AND CLOSURE [Shared]
4:24 PM   27   [107] 12-S4 INLAND AND/OR CT CAN PICK UP CLOSURE AT LONE PINE/SR138 AT 1700 [Shared]
4:14 PM   26   [104] [Notification] [CHP]-CONFIRM CT IS LEAVING THE CLOSURE AT 1900 ? [Shared]
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon - Zermatt Incident 6-17-17
Post by: makgirl on Jun 17, 17, 05:22:59 PM
Incident:  00221   Type:    Report of Fire   Location:   Sr138 / Lone Pine Canyon Rd  Loc Desc:  ZERMATT/PACIFIC CREST    Lat/Lon:  34.315882 -117.495555   Close
Detail Information
5:17 PM   32   [126] [CHP] has closed their incident [170617IN00812]
5:17 PM   31   [127] CLOSURE PICKED UP LONE PINE CYN OPEN [Shared]
5:13 PM   30   [125] [Notification] [CHP]-8-6123 ADV WHAT TIME TOMORROW MORNING. CLSR AT WRIGHT RD WILL BE P/U PLZ ADV? [Shared]
5:06 PM   29   [123] A12-052 CLOSURE WILL REMAIN IN AFFECT UNTIL TOMORROW MORNING [Shared]
5:04 PM   28   [121] [Notification] [CHP]-8-6123 ADV INFO ON CLSR AT WRIGHT RD ANY UPDATE CAN IT BE P/U? [Shared]
5:00 PM   27   [119] A12-052 STILL CLOSURE AT WRIGHT RD / SR2 [Shared]
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon - Zermatt Incident 6-17-17
Post by: Wrightwood on Jun 17, 17, 05:25:11 PM
Twitter
Angeles_NF?Verified account @Angeles_NF 10 minutes ago

#ZermattFire 20% contained 10 acres crews improving containment lines and mopping up ANF @SBCOUNTYFIRE @CALFIREBDU
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon - Zermatt Incident 6-17-17
Post by: Bob C on Jun 17, 17, 05:35:44 PM
https://twitter.com/SBCSDcbachman/status/876236078226653184 (https://twitter.com/SBCSDcbachman/status/876236078226653184)

Cindy Bachman? @SBCSDcbachman
Zermatt Fire - Fire is holding at 11 acres. All mandatory evacuations have been lifted. Evacuation centers will close at 6:00 p.m.

Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon - Zermatt Incident 6-17-17
Post by: makgirl on Jun 17, 17, 07:49:52 PM
Incident:  00221   Type:    Report of Fire   Location:   Sr138 / Lone Pine Canyon Rd  Loc Desc:  ZERMATT/PACIFIC CREST    Lat/Lon:  34.315882 -117.495555   Close
Detail Information
7:19 PM   34   [131] A12-052 INC COMMANDER ADVS CLOSURE WILL REMAIN UNTIL APPROX 2030-2100 HRS [Shared]
7:18 PM   33   [130] [Notification] [CHP]-8-6123 IS ABOUT TO GO 1098 ADV IS CLSR AT WRIGHT RD TO REMAIN IN PLACE UNTIL A.M. PLZ ADV? [Shared]
5:17 PM   32   [126] [CHP] has closed their incident [170617IN00812]
 
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon - Zermatt Incident 6-17-17
Post by: Jim Wilkins on Jun 17, 17, 07:58:42 PM
Pretty much can guarantee there will be crews and equipment on the Zermatt Fire all night long cleaning up hot spots and improving the depth of the fire line surrounding the incident.  Couple things to watch for....the smell of smoke will be strong in our valley depending on the winds.  Pretty normal.  Second, there will be hot spots flaring up throughout the night that will be visible to many.  Many of these will be in the middle of the burn....not a factor to fire escaping and will be allowed to burn out.  Some fire may be put on the ground to clean up some areas that still have unburned fuels and they might glow a bit more.  All of this is pretty standard operating procedure and nothing to worry about.  If you feel that you are seeing something that is not what I've described or you are really worried, call 911 and the nice person will contact the Incident Commander to investigate what you see or smell. 

We definitely dodged a bullet once again and no structures were lost due to having the right equipment and trained personnel to respond immediately.  Our resident crew at Station 14 did an amazing job of assessing what they had and getting the right equipment and personnel from multiple agencies on the way. Thankfully, there were aircraft and sufficient resources not committed to other fires to get around this one.  Thankful too that no one was injured....civilian or firefighter.

Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon - Zermatt Incident 6-17-17
Post by: Chuck on Jun 17, 17, 08:24:34 PM
On the positive side this is another (hopefully) natural fuel mitigation that will benefit us.  To bad it comes with so much stress.  This area will regrow fast.

Just seems very suspicious one starting there and will be interesting to find out how if started.
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon - Zermatt Incident 6-17-17
Post by: Joe Schmoe on Jun 17, 17, 10:13:13 PM
will be interesting to find out how if started.
Seems like we never hear about that.  For example, what exactly started the blue cut fire?  We know where, but we hardly ever hear how.
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon - Zermatt Incident 6-17-17
Post by: Wrightwood on Jun 17, 17, 10:15:21 PM
Facebook
Jim Wilkins
Pretty much can guarantee there will be crews and equipment on the Zermatt Fire all night long cleaning up hot spots and improving the depth of the fire line surrounding the incident. Couple things to watch for....the smell of smoke will be strong in our valley depending on the winds. Pretty normal. Second, there will be hot spots flaring up throughout the night that will be visible to many. Many of these will be in the middle of the burn....not a factor to fire escaping and will be allowed to burn out. Some fire may be put on the ground to clean up some areas that still have unburned fuels and they might glow a bit more. All of this is pretty standard operating procedure and nothing to worry about. If you feel that you are seeing something that is not what I've described or you are really worried, call 911 and the nice person will contact the Incident Commander to investigate what you see or smell.

We definitely dodged a bullet once again and no structures were lost due to having the right equipment and trained personnel to respond immediately. Our resident crew at Station 14 did an amazing job of assessing what they had and getting the right equipment and personnel from multiple agencies on the way. Thankfully, there were aircraft and sufficient resources not committed to other fires to get around this one. Thankful too that no one was injured....civilian or firefighter.
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon - Zermatt Incident 6-17-17
Post by: Wrightwood on Jun 18, 17, 10:00:18 AM
9:56 am 6-18-17
Per ANF radio traffic
Active mopup
Holding at 10.8 acres
Light smoke showing
50% contained
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon - Zermatt Incident 6-17-17
Post by: MerlinSilk on Jun 18, 17, 12:20:12 PM
I was really amazed how fast and efficient this fire has been handled.
The big tanker was on approach already before I had even noticed the smoke!
Great work and - THANK YOU!
Title: Re: Fire at East Canyon - Zermatt Incident 6-17-17
Post by: Wrightwood on Jun 19, 17, 08:53:40 PM
Twitter

Angeles_NF?Verified account @Angeles_NF 8 minutes ago

#ZermattFire 90% contained 11 acres, units will patrol and monitor throughout the night