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Title: All national forests in California closed to visitors. No Labor Day camping
Post by: Wrightwood on Aug 30, 21, 04:10:53 PM: https://www.sacbee.com/news/california/fires/article253864053.html
Title: Re: All national forests in California closed to visitors. No Labor Day camping
Post by: Wrightwood on Aug 30, 21, 05:11:00 PM
Title: Re: All national forests in California closed to visitors. No Labor Day camping
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Title: Re: All national forests in California closed to visitors. No Labor Day camping
Post by: lwt42 on Aug 30, 21, 09:17:18 PM: I wonder if National Parks and California State Parks will follow the Forest Service example.
Title: Re: All national forests in California closed to visitors. No Labor Day camping
Post by: sagespirit on Aug 30, 21, 10:31:30 PM: Thanks for posting this announcement. Have sent it on to many people.
Great decision of the Forest Service. Yes, I hope the State Parks follow suit.
Title: Re: All national forests in California closed to visitors. No Labor Day camping
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Title: Re: All national forests in California closed to visitors. No Labor Day camping
Post by: Wrightwood on Aug 31, 21, 10:11:32 AM
Title: Re: All national forests in California closed to visitors. No Labor Day camping
Post by: Wrightwood on Aug 31, 21, 10:13:36 AM
Title: Re: All national forests in California closed to visitors. No Labor Day camping
Post by: ChrisLynnet on Aug 31, 21, 11:00:53 AM: Quote from: Wrightwood on Aug 31, 21, 10:13:36 AM
State Route 2 is now closed from Big Pines west of Wrightwood to I-5 in LA County. No access to hikers, bikers, vehicles, or anyone including Bigfoot.

I feel bad for Bigfoot!
Title: Re: All national forests in California closed to visitors. No Labor Day camping
Post by: Joe Schmoe on Aug 31, 21, 02:32:40 PM: ...I'm pretty sure we determined the closure of the road to be illegal, didn't we? Closing the forest to people doesn't mean closing the road. You're just not supposed to be able to exit your car.
Title: Re: All national forests in California closed to visitors. No Labor Day camping
Post by: ChrisLynnet on Aug 31, 21, 02:39:53 PM: Quote from: Joe Schmoe on Aug 31, 21, 02:32:40 PM
...I'm pretty sure we determined the closure of the road to be illegal, didn't we?

The 2 closes at least once a year for months at a time, so I can't imagine it's illegal.
Title: Re: All national forests in California closed to visitors. No Labor Day camping
Post by: Nolena on Aug 31, 21, 06:01:57 PM: Well, I don't think Bigfoot has a legitimate driver's license, so she/he will be walking on those big feet. Won't care about whether or not the road is open.
Title: Re: All national forests in California closed to visitors. No Labor Day camping
Post by: lwt42 on Aug 31, 21, 06:32:14 PM: Quote from: ChrisLynnet on Aug 31, 21, 02:39:53 PM
The 2 closes at least once a year for months at a time, so I can't imagine it's illegal.

Quote from: Joe Schmoe on Aug 31, 21, 02:32:40 PM
...I'm pretty sure we determined the closure of the road to be illegal, didn't we? Closing the forest to people doesn't mean closing the road. You're just not supposed to be able to exit your car.

I'm sure there are reasons that any road can be closed legally -- much larger roads close often because they're impassible (too much snow, for example).

On Sunday, when the Railroad Fire closed the 15 (which I'm sure was legal), I was trying to get home from downtown LA. I would have tried the Angeles Crest if I'd known it was open, but the signs were contradictory.

Now we know, at least for the next couple of weeks. Seems like a good idea given the tinderbox out there.
Title: Re: All national forests in California closed to visitors. No Labor Day camping
Post by: Joe Schmoe on Aug 31, 21, 08:10:09 PM: All of those situations aren't this one. And we've been through this before - it was deemed legally necessary to leave Hwy 2 open, but restrict access to the forest by not allowing anyone to recreate in the forest. This forum discussed it....I'm not just pulling this out of nowhere.

So, I don't understand how we got from that, to this.
Title: Re: All national forests in California closed to visitors. No Labor Day camping
Post by: AvocadoFlyer on Sep 01, 21, 08:58:35 AM
Title: Re: All national forests in California closed to visitors. No Labor Day camping
Post by: Wrightwood on Sep 01, 21, 11:13:51 AM: Sounds like there's a hard closure based on this:

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It has a person posted at intersection, cones and CMS sign
Title: Re: All national forests in California closed to visitors. No Labor Day camping
Post by: Joe Schmoe on Sep 01, 21, 12:38:51 PM: I suspect someone is taking liberties by making it a hard closure. I'm not one of those freedom aholes but if it's a rule the FS needs to follow it too. And if you don't have enough people to care for the forest, then there's a problem.