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Offline Wrightwood

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Re: Road Condition News (discussion)
« Reply #360 on: Aug 02, 24, 11:18:08 PM »
Incident: 0847 Type: Fatality Location: S Lytle Creek Rd / Glen Helen Pkwy Loc Desc: 1939 LYTLE CREEK ROAD Lat/Lon: 34.187178 -117.439748
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10:14 PM   21   [91] B75-151 MEDIA ON SCENE
10:11 PM   20   [90] [Rotation Request Comment] 1039 HAYES ******** 909-884-4953
10:10 PM   19   [89] 75-S6 RESTART 1185
10:07 PM   18   [86] SBSO CPS WILL HAVE CORONER 1021 75-S6 WITH ETA
10:06 PM   17   [84] SBSO FOR ETA - ADV CORONER WENT 97 2150 HRS
10:00 PM   16   [82] 75-S6 REQ ETA F/ CORONER
9:00 PM   15   [78] 1039 HAYES / BOT [Shared]
9:00 PM   14   [77] 75-S6 1022 1185 FOR NOW [Shared]
8:38 PM   13   [55] 75-S6 INQ WITH 75-151 EXT OF INJ F/ 151 [Shared]
8:36 PM   12   [53] [Rotation Request Comment] 1039 HAYES TOWING ************* 909-887-4953 [Shared]
8:35 PM   11   [52] B75-151 REQ 1185 WILL ADV BETTER 1020 [Shared]
8:33 PM   10   [50] 1039 75-S6 [Shared]
8:30 PM   9   [48] 1039 SBCC CPS 2-3 MILES JNO GLEN HELEN [Shared]
8:30 PM   8   [46] RP ADV APPROX 2 MILES JNO GLEN HELEN ON LYTLE CREEK RD [Shared]
8:27 PM   7   [68] [Appended, 20:50:01] [2] The user's iPhone detected a VEHICLE CRASH that is LIKELY TO HAVE RESULTED IN INJURY. It is UNKNOWN how many OCCUPANTS may have been in the vehicle. This concludes the automatically-assembled data. You may now attempt to contact the user. However, messages may be delayed, and the user may not be able to respond.
8:25 PM   6   [30] * LANE [Shared]
8:25 PM   5   [29] BLOCKING WB LINE [Shared]
8:25 PM   4   [33] [Appended, 20:26:00] [3] SOLO VEH TC
8:24 PM   3   [18] 1039 SBCC [Shared]
8:23 PM   2   [13] SOLO VEH TC - VEH LOST CONTROL AND SWERVED [Shared]
8:22 PM   1   [1] OT VEH
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8:38 PM   8   Unit Assigned
10:01 PM   7   Unit Cleared
8:58 PM   6   Unit At Scene
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Re: Road Condition News (discussion)
« Reply #361 on: Aug 08, 24, 02:47:14 PM »
Not sure if this is the right place, but do we have an explanation for why Lone Pine Canyon Road was recently repaved or re-sealed at what I think is the "minimum standard" for a paved road?

I've seen this method on lower-traffic roads and in more remote desert areas. It seems that the construction crew sprays a thin layer of tar (or similar) on the road and dumps an excess of loose gravel on top. The crew puts up "slow / construction zone" signs, then disappears for a week while the normal traffic on the road does the job of packing down the gravel and flinging excess gravel off the road.  Then the crew comes back and sprays another thin layer of tar (or similar) on top of the remaining gravel.  That seems to be the state of Lone Pine as of this morning. It seemed like the paving was complete since it looked like they were preparing to repaint the lines, etc. soon.

The more common methods of re-paving or re-sealing the road are obviously more expensive -- using heavier machinery to lay down a mixture of asphalt and gravel and pack and smooth it with a steam roller or similar.

It seems strange that they went with this lower cost but much lower quality method for the ~9 miles of Lone Pine Canyon Road. The surface is much more rough, and I would guess it will rapidly degrade once winter weather and winter traffic hits. Additionally, anybody who drove on Lone Pine and "helped" dissipate the excess gravel was risking the flying gravel damaging their vehicle. And, while it's a matter of opinion...the road just looks and feels like it was a cheap job, with the rough surface, overspray of tar onto dirt and rocks, not matching the appearance of cross streets, etc.

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Re: Road Condition News (discussion)
« Reply #362 on: Aug 09, 24, 09:11:22 AM »
Lone Pine Canyon Rd was repaved not long ago.
I recall reading that asphalt slurry seal is a preventative maintenance method that extends pavement life by creating a new wear layer with a mix of emulsified asphalt, water, fine aggregate, and additives.

Added note: May 20, 2019 - paving project on Lonepine Canyon Road from Hwy 2 all the way down to Hwy 138

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Re: Road Condition News (discussion)
« Reply #363 on: Aug 09, 24, 09:53:21 AM »
What they put on Lone Pine looks like chip seal, which Caltrans used on the 2 a few years ago and upset bicyclists and motorcyclists (maybe everyone else). I think the only benefit to chip vs slurry is cost, and chip seal is a much rougher, possibly less safe, surface.

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Re: Road Condition News (discussion)
« Reply #364 on: Aug 09, 24, 05:35:43 PM »
Lone Pine Canyon Rd was repaved not long ago.
I recall reading that asphalt slurry seal is a preventative maintenance method that extends pavement life by creating a new wear layer with a mix of emulsified asphalt, water, fine aggregate, and additives.

I just wish they'd do something (anything) about Phelan Road from 138 to 15.

The current conditions cost me a windshield.

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Re: Road Condition News (discussion)
« Reply #365 on: Aug 25, 24, 06:49:24 AM »
Incident: 0202 Type: Trfc Collision-1141 Enrt Location: SR138 / Lone Pine Canyon Rd Loc Desc: JWO LINE PINE Lat/Lon: 34.315882 -117.495555
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5:32 AM   15   [34] [Rotation Request Comment] 1039 HAYES TOWING W/ FB 909-887-4953 [Shared]
5:32 AM   14   [33] REQ 2ND 1185 [Shared]
5:28 AM   13   [30] ROLLING FD AS PRECAUTION - 1039 SBCC [Shared]
5:27 AM   12   [29] [Notification] [CHP]-Problem changed from 1183-Trfc Collision-Unkn Inj to 1179-Trfc Collision-1141 Enrt by CHP [Shared]
5:26 AM   11   [27] [Appended, 05:27:25] [2] ROLL OVER TC - STATE PARKS 97
5:23 AM   10   [25] [Rotation Request Comment] 1039 G AND M TOWING 760-948-5824 W/FB [Shared]
5:13 AM   9   [24] A75-152 REQ 1185 FB [Shared]
5:10 AM   8   [21] DUPE HAS VIS F/ RDWY [Shared]
4:52 AM   7   [12] [Appended, 04:53:55] [2] UNK WHERE ADDTL VEH IS
4:52 AM   6   [11] [Appended, 04:53:55] [1] BLU HOND CIV VS UNK TYPE VEH
4:52 AM   5   [10] UNK IF BLOCKING
4:52 AM   4   [8] RP STARTING OWN 1185
4:51 AM   3   [7] HEAD ON TC
4:51 AM   2   [6] UNK WHERE OTHER VEH IS
4:51 AM   1   [5] RP IN BLU HOND CIV WENT OFF THE RS
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5:11 AM   4   Unit Enroute
5:11 AM   3   Unit Assigned
5:09 AM   2   Unit Cleared
5:01 AM   1   Unit Assigned

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Re: Road Condition News (discussion)
« Reply #366 on: Oct 13, 24, 10:55:45 AM »
Incident: 0306 Type: Trfc Collision-1141 Enrt Location: 1011 Twin Lakes Dr Loc Desc: Twin Lakes Rd WRIGHTWOOD Lat/Lon: 34.350976 -117.641700
Detail Information
10:47 AM   7   [21] 1185 1097 [Shared]
10:00 AM   6   [14] [14] PER COMM CNTER - RUN # 24-256528 COMMUNITY HOSP OF SAN BERNARINO NOW / TYPE OF INJ NOT PROVIDED BY CREW[Shared]
9:58 AM   5   [12] [12] [Rotation Request Comment] 1039 G AND M TOWING 760-244-1868[Shared]
9:58 AM   4   [11] [11] 12-81 LL REQ 1185 FOR GOLF CART AND GET INJ FROM COMMCNTER [Shared]
9:37 AM   3   [7] [7] [Notification] [CHP]-RP RECALLED ADVS OCCP WAS TRANSPORTED BY COMM CNTER REQ A UNIT FOR 1110 VEH STILL ON HIS PROPERTY [Shared]
9:15 AM   2   [5] [5] HUSBAND CKED ON PTY ADVS HEAD INJ UNK IF DRUNK OR JUST HIT HEAD REAL HARD [Shared]
9:14 AM   1   [4] [4] TRANS TO COMM CNTER [Shared]

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Re: Road Condition News (discussion)
« Reply #367 on: Oct 13, 24, 10:57:52 AM »
Incident: 0063 Type: Trfc Collision-1141 Enrt Location: 1011 Twin Lakes Dr Loc Desc: Twin Lakes Rd WRIGHTWOOD Lat/Lon: 34.350976 -117.641700
Detail Information
10:47 AM   9   [21] 1185 1097 [Shared]
10:14 AM   8   [16] [Notification] [CHP]-[15] 12-81 INQ IF SAN BERDU UNIT CAN MAKE CONTACT W/ PARTY AT ARROWHEAD INQ ABOUT STATEMENT AND HORSE POWER // DL STATEMENT AND TYPES OF INJ
10:14 AM   7   [15] 12-81 INQ IF SAN BERDU UNIT CAN MAKE CONTACT W/ PARTY AT ARROWHEAD INQ ABOUT STATEMENT AND HORSE POWER // DL STATEMENT AND TYPES OF INJ
10:00 AM   6   [14] PER COMM CNTER - RUN # 24-256528 COMMUNITY HOSP OF SAN BERNARINO NOW / TYPE OF INJ NOT PROVIDED BY CREW
9:58 AM   5   [12] [Rotation Request Comment] 1039 G AND M TOWING 760-244-1868
9:58 AM   4   [11] 12-81 LL REQ 1185 FOR GOLF CART AND GET INJ FROM COMMCNTER
9:37 AM   3   [7] [Notification] [CHP]-RP RECALLED ADVS OCCP WAS TRANSPORTED BY COMM CNTER REQ A UNIT FOR 1110 VEH STILL ON HIS PROPERTY
9:15 AM   2   [5] HUSBAND CKED ON PTY ADVS HEAD INJ UNK IF DRUNK OR JUST HIT HEAD REAL HARD
9:14 AM   1   [4] TRANS TO COMM CNTER
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9:16 AM   2   Unit Enroute
9:16 AM   1   Unit Assigned

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Re: Road Condition News (discussion)
« Reply #368 on: Oct 19, 24, 09:18:14 AM »
Incident: 0034 Type: Defective Traffic Signals Location: Sr138 / Sr2 Loc Desc:   Lat/Lon: 34.390771 -117.576343
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8:02 AM   2   [15] [Appended, 08:03:43] [1] MULTI VEH RUNNING RED LIGHTS
7:04 AM   1   [4] [Notification] [CHP]-10-4 CT CUPV HAS ALREADY 10-97 DUP LOG BS0164
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7:05 AM   3   Unit At Scene
7:05 AM   2   Unit Enroute
7:05 AM   1   Unit Assigned

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Re: Road Condition News (discussion)
« Reply #369 on: Oct 21, 24, 10:54:56 AM »
Incident: 0291 Type: Traffic Hazard Location: 11979 Lone Pine Ln Loc Desc:   Lat/Lon: 34.039200 -116.918490
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10:42 AM   4   [11] LE CAL FIRE SB ADV WILL RECALL W/ UPDATE
10:33 AM   3   [9] PER CAL FIRE SB STILL ENRT
10:23 AM   2   [6] 1039 CAL FIRE
10:22 AM   1   [1] POWER LINE POLE DOWN AND LINES ACROSS LNS

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Re: Road Condition News (discussion)
« Reply #370 on: Oct 26, 24, 06:55:29 AM »
Incident: 0009 Type: Report of Fire Location: S Lytle Creek Rd / Middle Fork Rd 2n58 Loc Desc: 1 MI SO **KEEP LOG OPEN FOR AWATCH** Lat/Lon: 34.242322 -117.497859
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5:53 AM   19   [48] UNIT 98 FROM HARD CLOSURE - REQ TO KEEP LOG OPEN FOR AWATCH
5:46 AM   18   [47] C75-152 CO RDS 97 - HARD CLOSURE IN PLACE
5:29 AM   17   [46] [Notification] [CHP]-SBCC ADV CORDS ETA 20 MIN [Shared]
5:27 AM   16   [45] 1039 SBCOMM -- WILL CB W/ UPDATED ETA
5:27 AM   15   [43] 152 REQ ETA FOR CO RDS
4:14 AM   14   [41] [Notification] [CHP]-SBCC ETA 1 HR [Shared]
4:10 AM   13   [40] 1039 SBCC WILL GET ETA F/ CORDS - COPYS 75-152 1021 AND WILL GIVE 1021# TO THEIR FIRE CHIEF SO HE CAN CALL UNIT DIRECTLY
4:08 AM   12   [39] 75-152 INQ CORDS ETA AND SHUT DOWN INFO
3:46 AM   11   [37] 1039 SBCC FOR CORDS ' [Shared]
3:45 AM   10   [36] 75-152 REQ CORDS FOR HARD CLOSURE [Shared]
3:44 AM   9   [34] [Notification] [CHP]-SBCOMM ADVSD VIA FIRE I/C THAT CHP IS STILL NEEDED -- FIRE CHIEF REQ CHP TO SHUT DOWN LYTLE CREEK AT THE BOTTOM [Shared]
3:42 AM   8   [32] 1039 USFS NO LAW ENFORCEMENT UNITS AVAILABLE // ONLY UNITS THEY AHVE ON ARE FIRE ENGINES WORKING THE FIRE
3:41 AM   7   [31] 1039 SBSO WILL INQ IF THEY CAN HAVE UNIT RESPOND
3:37 AM   6   [26] 1039 SBSO -- ADSVD ALREADY 98
3:35 AM   5   [25] 1039 SBCC ADV WILL RECALL
3:35 AM   4   [24] 75-152 INQ W/ FIRE IF STILL NEEDED FOR 1184 OR ETA // ANOTHER TRUCK GOING PAST UNIT
3:01 AM   3   [22] 1039 SBCOMM ADVSD WILL CB W/ INFO
12:52 AM   2   [20] [Appended, 00:54:58] [2] WORKING FIRE IN AREA
12:13 AM   1   [7] [Appended, 00:14:17] [3] BRUSH FIRE
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1:34 AM   3   Unit At Scene
1:34 AM   2   Unit Enroute
12:55 AM   1   Unit Assigned