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Title: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Wrightwood on Dec 29, 02, 03:23:04 PM
Radio Scanner activity in Wrightwood during the past 6 months has never been more active, at any time..

The increase in Wrightwood radio traffic is due in part by the Wild Fires of 2002 and now the first few weeks of natural snowfall.

Anyone interested in learning more about scanning of emergency radio broadcasts in Wrightwood (and surrounding areas) should follow this topic.

I know plenty of people out there listen to scanners and will pass on all the needed information.

You'll become one of the people - that really knows why the helicopters are circling the sky.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Dec 29, 02, 04:20:56 PM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Mountain_Witch on Dec 29, 02, 05:09:31 PM
::) Geez, I wonder were you got this idea to start this topic?

Thanks, I'll be watching it closely as I'm considering purchasing a scanner and have no idea were to start. Right now, all I have is a little cheep radio shack CB that plugs into a car cigarette lighter which is really worthless up here, not to mention having to go sit out in the truck just to see if I can pick something up really bites. :P
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Wrightwood on Dec 29, 02, 05:50:01 PM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Dec 30, 02, 04:01:24 PM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Wrightwood on Dec 30, 02, 04:40:07 PM
Thanks ....RobertW

That really helps.

I'll post more if you can shed light on them.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Dec 30, 02, 05:26:44 PM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: angelwolf326 on Dec 31, 02, 01:45:58 AM
That sounds really interesting.  Where do you buy a scanner and how much are they?

I love to know what's going on in town....

I'd appreciate any info....

Thanks,

Angel
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Naughty_Pines on Dec 31, 02, 06:53:48 AM
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Angelwolf,
Radio Shack has scanners $299.99 + antenna $59.99.
Don't know what all else would be needed tho.
Check the one in Phelan. Circuit City in V'Ville would probably also have scanners.
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Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Wrightwood on Dec 31, 02, 07:15:26 AM
Here's a few local frequences of interest. You can hear school bus radio activity on the Snowline frequences and on the Mt High frequences you'll hear plenty of base operation, snow makers and grooming.

SnowLine School District

151.8050
151.8350
153.1700
153.6350
155.2200
155.2650
158.3850
159.7800
159.7950
451.2750
456.2750

Mt High

464.3250
464.4750
464.5500
464.6750
464.8250
464.9250
469.3250
469.4750
469.6750
469.8250
469.9250

Camp Mariastella
461.4500
466.4500

Methodist Church Camp
461.5500
461.8750
466.5500
466.8750
468.5250

Gary's Towing
463.5000
465.5000
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Jan 01, 03, 06:04:22 AM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Jan 01, 03, 01:56:28 PM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Jan 01, 03, 02:06:37 PM
Title: Before buying a scanner for Wrightwood READ THIS
Post by: clint on Jan 02, 03, 04:41:03 PM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Wrightwood on Jan 03, 03, 03:18:13 AM
Let me see if I can sum up what Clint is trying to say:

If you buy a scanner, cheap or expensive, don't count on getting "All"  or "Any specific" frequencies that are being listed in this topic.

Wrightwood is a very unique area for using scanners. Certain frequencies can only be picked up in some areas of town.

I've taken my good scanner to the west part of town, connected it to a friends antenna identical to mine and was not able to pick up the frequencies that I receive at my house.

Better scanners and antennas will help but are not a guarantee by any means.
No matter what scanner you get chances are high that you'll receive plenty of broadcasts in Wrightwood.

If you think about it, not much different than listening to your car radio in Wrightwood. Some areas of town they work and some they don't.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: asmith47 on Jan 03, 03, 04:22:26 AM
Great thread. Is there anything special I should know about getting a scanner that will pick up railroad communications? Are they going to the more sophisticated systems or will they stay with what I can pick up with an inexpensive scanner? I don't really care about listening to police or fire calls.

Also, some places have rules about using scanners in a car. Is this legal in CA?
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Jan 03, 03, 07:51:21 AM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Jan 03, 03, 05:23:07 PM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: asmith47 on Jan 04, 03, 03:48:44 AM
So a handheld scanner would be OK even in a car. That's cool. Thanks!
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: clint on Jan 07, 03, 10:36:11 AM
Because they state "Shortwave" the ordinance has no teeth. Scanners do not receive "shortwave"  frequencies so this would be be almost impossible to prosecute.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: asmith47 on Jan 07, 03, 10:46:55 AM
I would be interested to know what supposed public good this law is designed to achieve.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: angelwolf326 on Jan 09, 03, 07:21:47 AM
Wow, that was a ton of info to dive into.  Thanks for all the help and advice.  Being we are just over the holidays, I think it will be a while before I look into purchasing a scanner.  Maybe after tax return??? :)

Thanks again,
Angel
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Jan 09, 03, 09:01:14 AM
Quote
I would be interested to know what supposed public good this law is designed to achieve.


The law was designed so that the Authorities could deal with unscrupulous individuals who were using scanners for illegal uses or trying to thwart capture, as well as keep certain individuals from "chasing" calls and getting in the way or impeading Police and Fire personnel from performing their duties.

As I have stated, most departments applaud individuals who use scanners responsibly.  When a call goes out giving a description of a 211 suspect, the more people who hear it the more eyes out there to keep a look out.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: clint on Jan 10, 03, 07:55:54 AM
One more comment on the shortwave receiver law, many southern states have very old laws on the books that date back to Prohibition and moon shining. The moon shiners would have radios in their cars to avoid the police and that is what started the laws.
Title: Handheld scanners in cars
Post by: clint on Jan 10, 03, 08:04:14 AM
Some frequencies penetrate glass pretty well. Frequencies below 300 MHz, where the Forest Service is and where lots of local fire and police departments are penetrates glass and therefore a handheld scanner with a rubber duck will work pretty well in a car. However - you knew there was one coming did'nt you - higher frequencies like 440, 470, 480, don't go through glasss well at all. 800 is attenuated by glass. That's why your cell phone will work better with the window down. Eventually when you get up into the Gigahertz range, RF goes through again. That's why police radar works through the radio car windshield, and why your microwave has a layer of plastic or metal mesh over the window.

Bottom line. If you want reliable reception of UHF frequencies in your car, you need an external antenna.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Jan 10, 03, 06:37:02 PM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: kew on Jan 08, 05, 03:49:09 PM

The law was designed so that the Authorities could deal with unscrupulous individuals who were using scanners for illegal uses or trying to thwart capture, as well as keep certain individuals from "chasing" calls and getting in the way or impeading Police and Fire personnel from performing their duties.

As I have stated, most departments applaud individuals who use scanners responsibly. When a call goes out giving a description of a 211 suspect, the more people who hear it the more eyes out there to keep a look out.

That is almost a direct quote I received from Pomona P.D. in the mid '70s.

Since the last post is 2 years old I would like to know of any updates about Cost - Frequency - Brands - etc. I also need to hear about the usefulness of these frequences in the Phelan area as well as Wrightwood. Particularly with reguard to Fire, Sheriff, CHP, and Rescue.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Jan 08, 05, 04:51:46 PM
Since the last post is 2 years old I would like to know of any updates about Cost - Frequency - Brands - etc. I also need to hear about the usefulness of these frequences in the Phelan area as well as Wrightwood. Particularly with reguard to Fire, Sheriff, CHP, and Rescue.

Not much has changed.  Radio Shack is having a sale on a couple of really good scanners that will match the needs of the Phelan, Wrightwood area.

They are both 1000 channel 800MHz Trunking scanners.  Both are on sale for $149. (Reg $199).

PRO-2052 Base scanner
PRO-95 Handheld Scanner

Bearcat/Uniden makes a good scanner also, but is usually a little more expensive ($200 + for the same scanner)

I have both brands and highly recommend both.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: kew on Jan 08, 05, 05:05:56 PM
I just returned here to ask for an opinion of Radio Shack PRO-95 Handheld Scanner.LOL I guess you already answered my questions. Thanks :D
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RennMan on Jan 12, 05, 03:49:05 PM
Thanks for the channel info, now I just have to figure out how to use the scanner... ;D
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Jan 12, 05, 06:57:18 PM
Thanks for the channel info, now I just have to figure out how to use the scanner... ;D

If you have any questions, besides this forum, you can get answers from the people who hang out at:

http://www.scannerbuff.net or
http://radioreference.com



Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: TableMtn on Jan 20, 05, 07:36:07 PM
Wrightwood,

Have you heard any activity on these frequencies?  Could they possibly be used for "simulcast".

FYI the ANF cannot "simulcast" because of the location of the repeaters.  They are too close together and the dispatcher's get a very bad feedback squeal in their headphones.  At least that is the explanation I was given when I asked why they didn't simulcast. 
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Jan 20, 05, 09:17:43 PM
Wrightwood,

Have you heard any activity on these frequencies? Could they possibly be used for "simulcast".

FYI the ANF cannot "simulcast" because of the location of the repeaters. They are too close together and the dispatcher's get a very bad feedback squeal in their headphones. At least that is the explanation I was given when I asked why they didn't simulcast.

Makes sense.  ANF has a very complicated communication system with it's repeater input and output frequencies, but works very well considering the mountains and rough terrain.

Since making that post in 2002, I've found that San Bernardino County "Desert Com" does indeed "simulcast" 151.145 on 867.8625.  Obviously the VHF 151MHz band works much better in the mountains than the 800 MHz UHF band which is pretty much line of sight.  As a result, I listen primarily to 151.145.

Station 101 in Wrightwood uses 867.8625 for "direct" or mobile to mobile transmissions.  When I hear Medic Ambulance 101 tell squad 101 to go "direct", I switch to 867.8625 and usually hear the transmission with no problems.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RennMan on Jan 24, 05, 09:39:11 AM
Thanks for all the info, folks!  I've been playing with the scanner for the past week or so.  Listened to the local "Grub Grabbers" HAM 0700L checkin using the Table Mountain repeater.  Programmed the scanner using a bit of software I found on the internet, called WIN95 for the PRO-95 scanner.  There's a Yahoo! group specific to the PRO-93/95 scanners, and lots of good info there as well.

We had the scanner on, most of the day yesterday, tuned to the WW Comm Center, and noted all the calls to Mountain High...
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: clint on Jan 25, 05, 12:14:44 AM
"Simulcast" is really not a term applied to commercial radio systems. The California Department of Fish and Game uses a system where all the field radios recieve and transmit the same frequency pair. When the employee in the field selects a "frequency" they are actually selecting a PL tone (also called CTCSS, because Motorola owns the name Private Line) that causes a different repeater to activate. The prefered method today for large area agencies such as the LA County Sherrif is to use Voting Receivers. All the receivers in the system, on all the mountain tops, listen to all the frequencies all the time. When a radio car or HT transmits, the receivers decide which one is receiving the strongest signal and assigns the traffic to that repeater location. San Bernardino County has some unique challenges being the largest county in the country, and like LA county there territory is split by a mountain range.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Jan 25, 05, 10:17:16 AM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: KWBoy on Mar 01, 05, 12:41:13 PM
is the RadioShack PRO-96 one over kill for a rookie? or will the PRO-95 be good enough?
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Mar 02, 05, 03:59:42 PM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: scangod on Mar 14, 05, 07:47:13 AM
Unlock your pro-95 scanner to receive 17mhz thru 1300 mhz, no holes. I used this software and it works great. The website says it also works on the pro93 and pro2053 but I havent used it on them cuz I dont have those scanners. It also includes PC programming software for the scanner

if your interested, send me an email at a.shemonia@neonlaw.com for the web site link.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Wrightwood on Apr 01, 05, 05:07:27 PM
Advertising for equipment- new or used belongs in our free classifieds.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Wrightwood on May 04, 05, 07:57:51 AM
Looks like there will be a change in SB County radio frequencies:

The Board of Supervisors approved the following items at the Tuesday board meeting in the city of San Bernardino:

Three contracts with Acro Services Corporation, Harvard Consulting Group, Inc., Macro Corporation, RCC Consultants, Alexander Utility Engineering Inc., ICR/Degreed Jobs, and Modis Inc. for the 800 MHz Radio channel rebanding project. The project will update and relocate the existing communication licenses to another part of the 800 MHz band. The project is ordered by the Federal Communication Commission to eliminate interference by Nextel and other commercial providers. The total contract amount for all three contracts is $9 million and will be reimbursed by Nextel Communications Inc.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Tammy on Jul 04, 05, 07:38:46 PM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Jul 11, 05, 03:55:03 PM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Wrightwood on Oct 07, 05, 12:09:21 AM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Oct 07, 05, 03:54:28 PM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Oct 17, 05, 02:31:22 PM
Here is an updated top 40 frequencies to monitor in the Wrightwood area!

CONVENTIONAL FREQUENCIES

151.1450 Wrightwood Fire "Comm Center" SB County FD-1, CDF Tac-1
867.8625 Wrightwood Fire (Direct)
156.0750 CALCORD
154.0700 Desert Comm (Yellow)
154.2050 Desert Comm (Grey)
154.3250 Desert Comm (Red) Mutual Aid
153.8300 Desert Comm (Brown) HT
151.4450 CDF (Local 1) BDU West
151.3250 CDF (Local 2) BDU East
151.2500 CDF (Tac 5) BDU Tactical
154.2800 Statewide Mutual Aid (White 1)
154.2650 Statewide Mutual Aid (White 2)
166.3750 BLM
042.5600 CHP "Barstow" (White Base)
042.7200 CHP "Barstow" (White Mobile)
039.2600 CHP "Inland" (Beige-1 Base)
042.7400 CHP "Inland" (Beige-1 Mobile)
042.4200 CHP "Antelope" (Tan Base)
042.8400 CHP "Antelope" (Tan Mobile)
154.9050 CHP Vehicular Extenders
172.3750 USFS "Angeles" (1/2) Forest Net
164.9375 USFS "Angeles" (3/4) Administrative Net
168.2000 USFS "Angeles" (5) Crew Net, NIFC Tac-2
170.0000 USFS "Angeles" (6) Air-Ground, NIFC Air Tactics-4
168.0500 USFS "Angeles" (7) Tac-1
168.6000 USFS "Angeles" (8 ) Tac-3
169.1750 USFS "Angeles" (9) Tac
169.1250 USFS Region 5 Travel Net
168.6250 NIFC US Interagency Fire Cache
123.9750 USFS & L.A. County Fire Air-to-air "Victor"
166.6750 NIFC Air Tactics-1
169.1500 NIFC Air Tactics-2
169.2000 NIFC Air Tactics-3, USFS "Angeles" Crew Net
151.2800 CDF  Air Tactics
151.2950 CDF , NIFC Air Tactics-5
151.3100 CDF (Air tac), NIFC Air Tactics-6
470.5375 L.A. County Fire Dispatch (Blue 8 )
470.4875 L.A. County Fire Response (Blue 12)
470.6375 L.A. County Fire Tactical (Blue 9)
470.3625 L.A. County Fire Tactical (Blue 10)

Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Oct 17, 05, 03:45:05 PM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Nick on Oct 17, 05, 06:55:14 PM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Oct 17, 05, 10:48:22 PM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: spellbinder on Oct 19, 05, 07:39:44 PM
what is the difference in scanners, digital and other?

price and performance?

Hey, im not a mouse anymore!!!!!
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Oct 19, 05, 10:59:37 PM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: spellbinder on Oct 20, 05, 09:39:45 PM
Thanks, i can sense a visit to radio shack tomorrow....

again, thanks     :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Oct 26, 05, 09:29:08 AM
(http://www.wrightwoodcalif.com/scanner/TN_Scanner.GIF)

With the addition of the "Live Scanner" to the WrightwoodCalif webpage, no doubt many have had some questions about scanners in general.

Here are a couple of links to "Frequently Asked Questions" about scanners in general.

http://www.advancedspecialties.net/radio-scanner-faq.htm


http://support.radioshack.com/support_tutorials/communications/cfq-scan010.htm


Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Toolman on Nov 08, 05, 07:08:56 AM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Nov 08, 05, 06:45:36 PM
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Post by: Toolman on Nov 08, 05, 07:16:58 PM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Wrightwood on Nov 09, 05, 06:57:43 AM
A more comprehensive list of Frequencies used as well as all the Fire Station numbers in the Wrightwood and Desert area may  will soon be listed on this website.

The webmaster has been busy winterizing, repairing backhoes and attending community meetings  and hasn't got to the project yet.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Nov 09, 05, 10:13:03 AM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: KWBoy on Mar 03, 06, 07:56:20 AM
I got a Pro 97 a few months ago when it was on sale but i have no idea how to program it  :-\ Ive so far only used it for the weather.

Ive read the instructions and putting them in one by one is hard and it seems like it would take for ever!  Is there an easier way?
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: The Usle Family on Mar 03, 06, 08:40:08 AM
I also have a Pro-97. The process for entering the frequencies and then the individual trunking ID, plus the text is a bit overwhelming.  There is an easier way, but it will cost you some bucks.  There is a program you can buy called Win 97, http://www.starrsoft.com/software/win97/default.asp
this software costs $25.00.

The website explains it all, I have only heard good things about it.

www.radioreference.com has the file that you would need and I think you can buy the download adapter at radio shack.

Jon
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Mar 03, 06, 12:12:32 PM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Chesslike on Mar 03, 06, 01:40:20 PM
I got a Pro 97 a few months ago when it was on sale but i have no idea how to program it  :-\ Ive so far only used it for the weather.

Ive read the instructions and putting them in one by one is hard and it seems like it would take for ever!  Is there an easier way?

Hey FG, I think you are going to need one of these also:
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102526

Do you mind if I ask you what the Pro 97 was on sale for when you bought it? I have been thinking of getting that model, but it has been quite a few weeks that I have been following the Radio Shack ads and it has not gone on sale since I have wanted to get one.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: KWBoy on Mar 03, 06, 02:46:31 PM
it was either $179 or $149 it was in december when i got it..

Phelan radio shack didnt even know what a pro 97 was  :-\  I had to go to the one in the victor valley mall in vv
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: KWBoy on Mar 03, 06, 03:14:14 PM
I got the cable when i got the scanner  ;)
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Mar 03, 06, 04:24:57 PM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Chesslike on Mar 05, 06, 06:58:48 AM
it was either $179 or $149 it was in december when i got it..

Phelan radio shack didnt even know what a pro 97 was  :-\  I had to go to the one in the victor valley mall in vv

Thanks FG, I see it is on sale in today's Radio Shack ad for $149.99.

Thanks for the great link RobertW.

Does anyone know if they make a USB cable for these scanners?
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: KWBoy on Mar 05, 06, 08:59:19 AM
yea they do http://www.greamerica.com/scanner.html (http://www.greamerica.com/scanner.html)
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Chesslike on Mar 05, 06, 09:13:21 AM
yea they do http://www.greamerica.com/scanner.html (http://www.greamerica.com/scanner.html)

Thanks again Funky.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Chesslike on Mar 07, 06, 12:17:00 PM
Just picked up my Pro 97 from the Phelan store. I was not too happy when he told me the warranty was only 90 days in the store. Luckily when I got home the paperwork says it has a one year warranty which my credit card company doubles to two years.

Radio Shack is just coming out with their USB data cable and it should be in the local stores shortly. Here is the link:

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2177609&cp
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: KWBoy on Mar 07, 06, 12:46:01 PM
get http://www.starrsoft.com/software/win97/default.asp (http://www.starrsoft.com/software/win97/default.asp) it was well worth the $25

Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Mar 08, 06, 06:34:02 PM
For Streaming Audio of Palmdale/Lancaster LA County Sheriff's go here:

http://209.221.193.25:8000/ (http://209.221.193.25:8000/)
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Mar 10, 06, 10:23:09 AM
Hey Bob,

Did you get your PRO97 programmed yet?  With this bad weather there should be a lot to listen to.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Chesslike on Mar 10, 06, 10:25:38 AM
Not yet, the USB cable is suppose to come in today at RS.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Mar 10, 06, 11:15:32 AM
Not yet, the USB cable is suppose to come in today at RS.

Well, you CAN punch in the top 10 frequencies by hand.  You don't HAVE to use the computer to program it.   ;D
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Mar 16, 06, 10:10:33 AM
Just received this information:

In order to facilitate improved radio communications in the Cajon Pass area, effective 0800 hours on March 15, 2006 8-FIRE-2 will be permanently included in the North Desert radio patch. The North Desert patch will now appear as:

1-FIRE-1, 2-FIRE-1, 3-FIRE-1, 6-FIREGROUND-7, Ridge Fire, Baker Fire, Mountain Pass Fire, COUNTY-1 Tone 7, 8-FIRE-2

All Valley units and North Desert units will switch to 8-FIRE-2 when they are assigned to incidents in the Cajon Pass.

Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: KWBoy on Mar 16, 06, 10:21:45 AM
Did you get it all programmed yet?  ::)
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Mar 17, 06, 12:47:30 PM
CHP 10 Codes:

10-1   RECEPTION POOR 
10-2   RECEPTION GOOD 
10-4   MESSAGE RECEIVED 
10-5   RELAY MESSAGE 
10-6   BUSY, STAND BY 
10-7   OUT OF SERVICE 
10-8   IN SERVICE 
10-9   REPEAT TRANSMISSION 
10-10 OFF DUTY 
10-11 IDENTIFY MOBILE FREQUENCY - KA4993 
10-13 ADVISE ROAD OR WEATHER CONDITIONS 
10-14 PROVIDE ESCORT 
10-15 PRISONER IN CUSTODY 
10-17 RELAY PAPERS, SUPPLIES, ETC. 
10-19 RETURN OR  RETURN OR RETURN TO_____ 
10-20 LOCATION REQUESTED 
10-21 TELEPHONE ____________ 
10-22 DISREGARD (MESSAGE OR DETAIL) 
10-23 STAND BY 
10-28 REQUEST FOR REGISTRATION 
10-29 CHECK FOR WANTED (PERSON, VEHICLE, OR OBJECT) 
10-30 IMPROPER RADIO TRAFFIC 
10-31 ATTEMPT SUICIDE 
10-35 CODE 2 BACKUP 
10-36 A CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION, SUBJECT POSSIBLY ARMED 
10-36F CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION, POSSIBLE FELONY WARRANTS 
10-36M CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION, POSSIBLE MISDEMEANOR WARRANTS 
10-37 WHAT TIME IS IT? 
10-39 MESSAGE OR ITEM DELIVERED 
10-97 ARRIVED AT SCENE 
10-98 ASSIGNMENT COMPLETED 
11-10 TAKE A REPORT 
11-24 ADANDON VEHICLE 
11-25 TRAFFIC HAZARD (SPECIFY TYPE) 
11-26 DISABLE VEHICLE - OCCUPIED 
11-27 DDL CHECK, DRIVER HELD 
11-41 AMBULANCE REQUIRED 
11-44 POSSIBLE FATALITY 
11-48 PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION (PERSON 
11-66 DEFECTIVE TRAFFIC SIGNALS (DESCRIBE) 
11-79 ACCIDENT - AMBULANCE ROLLING 
11-80 ACCIDENT - MAJOR INJURY 
11-81 ACCIDENT - MINOR INJURY 
11-82 ACCIDENT - PROPERTY DAMAGE 
11-83 ACCIDENT - NO DETAILS 
11-84 DIRECT TRAFFIC 
11-85 TOW TRUCK REQUIRED 
11-86 BOMB THREAT 
11-87 BOMB FOUND 
11-98 MEET________________ 
11-9 OFFICER REQUIRES HELP, EMERGENCY
 
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CODE 3 EMERGENCY 
CODE 4 SITUATION STABLE, EMERGENCY NO LONGER EXISTS 
CODE 20 NOTIFY PRESS 
CODE 33 CLEAR RADIO CHANNELS FOR EMERGENCY TRAFFIC 
CODE 70 MAY REMOVE TIE IF WEARIG VEST 
CODE 80 MAY REMOVE TIE   

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Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Apr 23, 06, 09:52:13 AM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: kew on Apr 23, 06, 10:27:46 AM
Good information - Thanks Robert
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: lafirephoto on Apr 23, 06, 11:27:01 PM
Awesome info Robert!

Will have to reprogram soon. Fire season is upon us and the camera is ready...
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Nolena on Apr 24, 06, 06:14:08 AM
Thanks, Robert!  :)
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on May 18, 06, 03:43:38 PM
The Wrightwood Scanner Frequencies Page has been updated and now includes "Radio and Identification Codes" and links to extensive frequency databases for various Agencies as well as the CHP incident page.

Wrightwood Scanner Frequencies (http://pages.prodigy.net/robertmorgan/Wrightwood%20Scanner%20Frequencies.html)
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: kew on May 21, 06, 02:09:03 AM
I know its best to do so, but is it really necessary to "trunk" the Wictorville frequencys?
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on May 21, 06, 10:07:28 AM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Jun 08, 06, 03:42:45 PM
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Jul 14, 06, 01:32:31 PM
Since Fire Season is upon us, I've added links to the Wrightwood Scanner Frequencies Page to keep up with the latest incidents while monitoring, as well as an Air Tanker Indentification link:

Wrightwood Scanner Frequencies Page (http://pages.prodigy.net/robertmorgan/Wrightwood%20Scanner%20Frequencies.html)
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Jul 17, 06, 02:37:35 PM
To monitor the current Millard and Sawtooth Complex fires, use the following frequencies:

COMMAND PRIMARY 151.265
COMMAND SECONDARY 170.425
COMMAND ALTERNATE 173.8125
TAC 151.250
TAC 168.250
TAC 166.775
TAC 154.265
TAC 173.9125
TAC 151.1375
AIR TO GROUND 151.220
AIR TAC 151.280
AIR TAC 129.950
AIR TAC 122.750
DECK 151.820
TOLC 122.575

SOME FREQUENCIES ARE ASSIGNED FOR COMTINGENCY. IF YOUR LOCAL, YOU WILL HEAR THE TACS. YOU MAY HEAR THE COMMAND FREQUENCIES FROM FURTHER AWAY.

Also Monitor the San Bernardino County Trunked System, #8 "Mountain".

See the Wrightwood Scanner Frequencies Page for System #8 Frequencies:

Wrightwood Scanner Frequencies Page (http://pages.prodigy.net/robertmorgan/Wrightwood%20Scanner%20Frequencies.html)

Trunk Groups for System #8 to monitor:

001904 Fire Disp, Fire
001936 Big Bear Disp, Fire
001968 Secondary Fire
002000 Wrightwood Disp, Fire
002003 8-Fireground-3 Fire
002064 8-Fireground-4 Fire
002256 8-Fireground-1 Fire
002288 8-Fireground-2 Fire
016016 Comm Center Fire

Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: clint on Jan 02, 07, 02:48:31 PM
Spent part of the weekend trying to figure out the programming for my new Uniden Bearcat BCT-15.
Very counter intuitive. If you had never owned a scanner before (I've had about a dozen) and had never lived in a conventional system world (like trunking was the norm) it might not be bad. But it has no manual mode. No way to simply enter a frequency to monitor at the moment. The is a reference to "direct entry" but I have not really checked it out yet. I like many of it's features, like the way the memory is allocated dynamically instead of being channelized.

I have found a few mistakes in the manual which have made it harder. But so far it looks like a winner. And I have the DIN mount box on order to install directly in the dash.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Jan 08, 07, 10:02:12 PM
FYI, scanner cloning is the only way to go.

BostonBob and I have the same exact handheld scanners, the PRO-97 by Radio Shack.  I had painstakenly programmed all the Wrightwood related frequencies into my scanner manually.  We got together and in just 30 seconds, his scanner was an exact duplicate of my Scanner.

Isn't technology great.   ;D
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Chesslike on Jan 08, 07, 10:14:27 PM
Isn't technology great.   ;D

Yes! Especially for me!  ;D  Thanks again fellow Bob!

Funky, don't you have the model? If you do we'll be waiting for you. ;)
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Wrightwood on Jan 08, 07, 11:00:09 PM
Yea but it took him 16 hours to find the right cable....
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: KWBoy on Jan 08, 07, 11:10:25 PM
Funky, don't you have the model?
Yea I have The Pro 97, Computer Cable and the software. I got bored of entering them so I gave up for the day and that was months ago  ::)


If you do we'll be waiting for you. ;)

What is that suppose to mean :o

Yea but it took him 16 hours to find the right cable....
John are you saying I'm slow.... Who was the one that took days to order a weather station. Ok I'll shut up now  ::)

Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Chesslike on Jan 08, 07, 11:26:07 PM
Funky, Wrightwood was talking about me taking 16 hours to find the right cable, but that was only because he needs to modernize his inventory control. ;)

What is that suppose to mean  :o

I meant that I thought you would jump on the chance to program your scanner in less than 30 seconds.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: KWBoy on Jan 08, 07, 11:32:06 PM
I know...  ;) All Roberts work is getting passed down to us  ;D

Yea I'd love to get those Programed in to my scanner.

Funky, Wrightwood was talking about me taking 16 hours to find the right cable, but that was only because he needs to modernize his inventory control. ;)

I was going to say it took me 5 minutes in the radio shack
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: clint on Jan 10, 07, 01:01:24 PM
Funky,
Be careful. We all know how tempting it is to become a Bob. It's a powerful attraction. First you try just  a little Bobness, and you think that will be enough, that you can handle it, that you can just say no. But then the pressure to be cloned starts to be to much. First your scanner. It seems like it's okay to be "one of them" but then the cloning goes too far, you've gone to the courthouse and requested forms to change your name. Chuck knows. He came close to becomming a Bob. But the lure and glamour were not enough to make him move over to the dark side. So don't be a Bob, don't we have enough Bob's now? Stay Funky. Take out those old Rick James  albums one more time. Throw out that Chamomille tea and have some black coffee. Program that scanner by hand. Be a man!
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: artology on Jan 10, 07, 05:30:43 PM
Maybe we need to start a "Bobs Anonymous" group. I too have felt the temptation.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: KWBoy on Jan 10, 07, 05:35:40 PM
I think we lost Wrightwood to the bobs!  :'(
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Chesslike on Jan 10, 07, 08:17:06 PM
Come on you guys and gal! You talk as if this is a bad thing. ;D
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: KWBoy on Jan 15, 07, 08:43:44 PM
I got 8 or 9 hours of use out of my scanner and it is showing low battery. If I put rechargeable batteries and a DC 9 volt power cord in it will it charge the batteries?
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Wrightwood on Jan 15, 07, 08:44:59 PM
What's the manual say?
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: KWBoy on Jan 15, 07, 08:50:52 PM
I don't know where it is... I have a 4 drawer file cabinet for all my manuals but I've never gotten to making file folders for my stuff... That will be done some day soon!



I'm now thinking about getting a base scanner for my computer room... This list keeps getting longer... Better start looking for a job  ::)
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: kew on Jan 15, 07, 08:59:21 PM
PRO-97 Manual

http://rsk.imageg.net/graphics/uc/rsk/Support/ProductManuals/2000527_PM_EN.pdf
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: kew on Jan 15, 07, 09:03:14 PM
Check page 12 - Using Batteries
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Chesslike on Jan 15, 07, 09:06:52 PM
I got 8 or 9 hours of use out of my scanner and it is showing low battery. If I put rechargeable batteries and a DC 9 volt power cord in it will it charge the batteries?

Yes, but you have to use the yellow battery holder.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: KWBoy on Jan 15, 07, 09:30:54 PM

Yes, but you have to use the yellow battery holder.

I actually have that  :o
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Jan 30, 07, 06:50:49 PM
Argh!  Burbank just went total "Digital" two days ago.  My Pro97 has been rendered useless as far the the Zero Bank goes, with the exception of Verdugo Fire and some other freqs.

I'll now HAVE to invest in a $500 digital scanner.  I guess I'll be able to keep the digital here in Burbank and take the Pro97 when in Wrightwood.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Chesslike on Jan 30, 07, 07:44:21 PM
I guess Funky and I have just cleared another spot in our frequency banks.
Too bad for you RobertW, I guess it wouldn't do any good for you to protest. ;)
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: KWBoy on Jan 30, 07, 07:48:11 PM
Are you going to a PRO-96 now?
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Jan 30, 07, 10:23:26 PM
Are you going to a PRO-96 now?

I'm think I'm more partial to the Uniden BC396 model.  I haven't decided yet.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RennMan on Feb 07, 07, 07:18:04 PM
Is the WW Forum Live Scanner off-line?  We've been trying to access it for the past couple of days, and it refuses to link up.  Also the temperature indication is not current, but the time indication seems to be.

Inquiring minds would like to know!

Peace
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: KWBoy on Feb 07, 07, 07:29:16 PM
It does appear the scanner is offline
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Wrightwood on Feb 07, 07, 08:01:59 PM
I wish Inquiring minds spoke up a little sooner  :D
I'm working on the issue right now.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: KWBoy on Feb 07, 07, 08:04:36 PM
I wish Inquiring minds spoke up a little sooner  :D
I'm working on the issue right now.

I'm surprised that bostonbob didn't notice it first  ;D



If any one comes across the scanner, weather station, or anything else not working start flooding wrightwood's inbox. He will appreciate it  ;D
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RennMan on Feb 07, 07, 08:09:58 PM
I wish Inquiring minds spoke up a little sooner  :D
I'm working on the issue right now.

Well, it's been a bit busy around here, and we thought it was a temporary thing.  I'm glad we pointed it out, and that Wrightwood is Johnny-on-the-spot in fixing this!

Oops, I made a funny!

Peace
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Wrightwood on Feb 07, 07, 09:04:08 PM
Johnny-on-the-spot determined that it was an updated virus protection that was installed 2 days ago. It activated a software firewall that was not needed and blocked incoming requests.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Feb 07, 07, 10:35:41 PM
I'm surprised that bostonbob didn't notice it first  ;D

BostonBob doesn't need to listen to the "Online" Scanner as he has his own Pro97 with all my frequencies in it.   ;D

BTW, for those of you that have cloned Bob's scanner:

Bank 5 has most the Wrightwood area freqs you'll want to listen to, while Bank 3 has ALL the CDF, USFS, NIFC, BLM, etc. freqs you'll need if there is a big fire.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: Wrightwood on Feb 07, 07, 10:42:02 PM
And what about all those bogus analog Burbank frequencies floating around, in the Tri-Community Scanners  ???    :bow: :bow:
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: KWBoy on Feb 07, 07, 11:09:27 PM
And what about all those bogus analog Burbank frequencies floating around, in the Tri-Community Scanners  ???    :bow: :bow:

I have those banks turned off so it only scans 3 and 5.  ;)
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Feb 08, 07, 09:33:49 AM
And what about all those bogus analog Burbank frequencies floating around, in the Tri-Community Scanners  ???    :bow: :bow:

Well the frequencies aren't bogus, but you won't be able to understand anything.  Digital sounds like aliens talking to each other (Not that I know what aliens sound like...  repressing memories of alien obduction in a cornfield in Nebraska 1984 ....)   ;D

Outside of the ICIS frequencies programed into Bank "0", all the other Verdugo Fire and aircraft freqs still work, though it is rumored that Verdugo Fire is also going to ICIS this year. Digital?  Perhaps.

The problem is I just can't go out and spend $500 on a new Digital Trunking Scanner without giving Kim $500 also to spend on whatever she wants.  That way I don't get any flak for buying more "toys".   See?  In 30 years of marriage, I've learned something.    ;D 

Now about the new HAM radio... "But Kim, it's not a toy, but could save my life when I'm in the back country..."  I'm still working on the best excuse for getting a scanner AND a new HAM radio.

(BTW, Banks 1 and 2 can still be valuable.   Bank 1 is good to go for L.A. City Fire and Bank 2 is good to go for L.A. County fire.) 
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: rdnckgrl78 on Feb 08, 07, 09:49:01 AM

Now about the new HAM radio... "But Kim, it's not a toy, but could save my life when I'm in the back country..."  I'm still working on the best excuse for getting a scanner AND a new HAM radio.


Well that might work on me  ;D  Especially if I needed something shiney for my finger (its not a toy its an investment!)
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on Mar 18, 08, 11:14:36 AM
A new FIRESCOPE Radio Communications Guidelines for 2008 Appendix is now available online:

http://www.firescope.org/ics-big-fog/ICS420-1AppendixA.pdf

It has a nice list of frequencies.

For those of you who are not familiar with FIRESCOPE, it stands for FIrefighting REScources in California Organized for Potential Emergencies. When this organization first formed it was called FIrefighting REsources in Southern California Organized for Potential Emergencies. This is the group that developed the Incident Command System (ICS) following legislation by the Congress following the very disasterous fire season of 1970. This legislation directed the U.S. Forest Service to coordinate a federal/state/local agency effort to address significant problems in interagency cooperation and operations made painfully clear during that fire season. The FIRESCOPE organization did such a good job that the nationwide adoption of ICS for all risk incidents is now reality. The organization changed it role to a statewide one that continues to facilitate improvements in fire agency mutual aid tasks.
Title: Re: Using Radio Scanners in Wrightwood
Post by: RobertW on May 08, 12, 12:24:55 PM
The Wrightwood Scanner Frequencies page has been updated.  As a reminder, SBCo Fire no longer patches into VHF through Frost Peak.  Monitor WW Fire "Direct" (867.8625) which is patched into the trunked 1-Fire-1 system via Frost Peak.

     Wrightwood Scanner Frequencies (http://www.wrightwoodcalif.com/bigpines/WrightwoodScannerFreqs/WrightwoodScannerFrequencies.html)