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Big Quake Likely To Hit California By 2037
« on: Apr 14, 08, 12:29:52 PM »
Forecasters: Big Quake Likely To Hit California By 2037

POSTED: 10:23 am PDT April 14, 2008

LOS ANGELES -- California faces an almost certain risk of being rocked by a strong earthquake by 2037, scientists said Monday in the first statewide temblor forecast.

New calculations reveal there is a 99.7 percent chance a magnitude 6.7 quake or larger will strike in the next 30 years. The odds of such an event are higher in Southern California than Northern California, 97 percent versus 93 percent.

The last time a jolt this size rattled California was the 1994 Northridge disaster, which killed 72 people, injured more than 9,000 and caused $25 billion in damage.

"It basically guarantees it's going to happen," said Ned Field, a seismologist with the U.S. Geological Survey in Pasadena and lead author of the report.

California is one of the most seismically active regions in the world. More than 300 faults crisscross the state, which sits atop two of Earth's major tectonic plates, the Pacific and North American plates. About 10,000 quakes each year rattle Southern California alone, although most of them are too small to be felt.

The analysis is the first comprehensive effort by the USGS, Southern California Earthquake Center and California Geological Survey to calculate earthquake probabilities for the entire state using newly available data. Previous quake probabilities focused on specific regions and used various methodologies that made it difficult to compare.

For example, a 2003 report found the San Francisco Bay Area faced a 62 percent chance of being struck by a magnitude 6.7 quake by 2032. The new study increased the likelihood slightly to 63 percent by 2037. For the Los Angeles Basin, the probability is higher at 67 percent. There is no past comparison for the Los Angeles area.

Scientists still cannot predict exactly where in the state such a quake will occur or when. But they say the analysis should be a wake-up call for residents to prepare for a natural disaster in earthquake country.

Knowing the likelihood of a strong earthquake is the first step in allowing scientists to draw up hazard maps that show the severity of ground shaking to an area. The information can also help with updating building codes and emergency plans and setting earthquake insurance rates.

"A big earthquake can happen tomorrow or it can happen 10 years from now," said Tom Jordan, director of SCEC headquartered at the University of Southern California, who was part of the research.

Of all the faults in the state, the southern San Andreas, which runs from Parkfield to the Salton Sea, appears most primed to break, scientists found. There is a 59 percent chance in the next three decades that a Northridge-size quake will occur on the fault compared to 21 percent for the northern section.

The northern San Andreas produced the 1906 San Francisco earthquake, a recent disaster in geologic time compared to the southernmost segment, which has not popped in more than three centuries.

Scientists are also concerned about the Hayward and San Jacinto faults, which have a 31 percent chance of producing a Northridge-size temblor in the next 30 years. The Hayward fault runs through densely populated cities in the San Francisco Bay Area. The San Jacinto fault bisects the fast-growing city of San Bernardino.

    * USGS.gov
    * U.S. Geological Survey: SoCal Earthquake Center
    * California Geological Survey

Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press

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Re: Big Quake Likely To Hit California By 2037
« Reply #1 on: Apr 14, 08, 01:15:47 PM »
The end of the world is on 2012, so we won't make it. ::)

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Re: Big Quake Likely To Hit California By 2037
« Reply #2 on: Apr 14, 08, 01:44:12 PM »
Forecasters: Big Quake Likely To Hit California By 2037

New calculations reveal there is a 99.7 percent chance a magnitude 6.7 quake or larger will strike in the next 30 years. The odds of such an event are higher in Southern California than Northern California, 97 percent versus 93 percent.....


    * USGS.gov
    * U.S. Geological Survey: SoCal Earthquake Center
    * California Geological Survey

Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press

I really have a problem with this type of story.

First, if you've lived in California for any length of time, your reaction to the article has got to be - DUH.

Second, if you check out the USGS site you will find there have been an average of one or more 7.0 quakes per DECADE since 1900.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/historical_state.php#california

It would only be worth writing about if we DIDN'T have a strong earthquake during the next 30 years.

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Re: Big Quake Likely To Hit California By 2037
« Reply #3 on: Apr 14, 08, 02:42:35 PM »
Here is another story that we should read.  I am so glad we don't get earthquakes up here on the ridge. 

http://www.vvdailypress.com/news/valley_5888___article.html/pass_victor.html

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Re: Big Quake Likely To Hit California By 2037
« Reply #4 on: Apr 14, 08, 07:29:50 PM »
Thank you Ken, for saying exactly what I was thinking!

If you think about it's not that the probability of HAVING a quake that
size (which is really not a very big quake) is that great. It's the probability
based on history of not having one that size is just really small.

duh summed it up quite well.



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Re: Big Quake Likely To Hit California By 2037
« Reply #5 on: Apr 14, 08, 08:05:51 PM »
I probabley won't be alive that long so I ain't gonna pack anything !  8)

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« Reply #6 on: Apr 15, 08, 06:53:48 AM »
They've been saying the big one is going to hit since I can remember paying attention back in the '80s. At some point in time, it begins to resemble crying wolf. If it comes, it comes. If you live in southern California and aren't prepared for a big earthquake, you're sadly misguided.

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99% sure to have an earthquake within the next 30 years!
« Reply #7 on: Apr 26, 08, 02:29:36 PM »
A week or so ago, I read on line that it's been 99% determined that we will face a great earthquake within the next 30 years.  I mentioned it to my husband and we spoke about the fact that Wrightwood has itself on a major fault line.  That night, low and behold the story appeared on a major news channel.  Here is what amazed me.  They spoke about the accuracy and the fact that this earthquake could happen at any time within the the next 30 years and then showed a map of the area.  The map had only one name on it.  Yep, Wrightwood!  Did anyone else read the article or see the newscast?  If this is true, wouldn't these people that have determined the quake to be a 99% sure thing communicate in some way with the local population of Wrightwood?  Perhaps this is something we need to be 99% prepared for!

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« Reply #8 on: Apr 26, 08, 03:54:26 PM »
Wrightwood IS preparing for the big one.  CERT training is to prepare you and your family for the "big one."  Not only are many people in Wrightwood CERT-trained, but they have gone through the more advanced training, which is ongoing training.  Check out the CERT section of this website.

We also have an emergency communications group.  Wrightwood has a large number of ham radio operators who participate in a weekly net - Sundays at 6:00 which you can listen to on this site.  There have been mock disaster drills.  There are ham classes going on all the time. 

Many people on this forum have gone to great lengths to prepare the town for an earthquake.  Everyone really needs to take advantage of this training.

You can get information at the upcoming Wildfire Awareness Day - many of the groups will have information on how to prepare yourself.

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Re: Big Quake Likely To Hit California By 2037
« Reply #9 on: Apr 26, 08, 04:54:46 PM »
Does our local CERT have dogs to sniff out people trapped in their homes?  Considering all the "weekenders" homes up here, it could be quite critical knowing where to look first.

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« Reply #10 on: Apr 26, 08, 05:37:42 PM »
Thanks Chatty Cathy.
I am aware that local residents of WW have been working on CERT training.  My question was did any of the people that announced the earthquake contact WW? If so, it would be interesting to me and I'm sure others as to what EXACTLY they had to say.  Since WW was the only name on their map!  If one doesn't read the forum how would they know about the CERT training?  In the event of an earthquake what should we expect?  What has been put in place?  If one is trapped in their home, is there a group of people that will be searching?  Have we had any community classes or conversations that I don't know about?  Held at the school?  Has any literature been passed out to the residents of WW?  I would think some well written literature would be nice to have to refer to. You mentioned the Wildfire Awareness Day.  If one was not able to attend they might not have the literature.  Shouldn't it be mailed to the residents of WW?

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Re: Big Quake Likely To Hit California By 2037
« Reply #11 on: Apr 26, 08, 05:51:51 PM »
Thanks Chatty Cathy.
I am aware that local residents of WW have been working on CERT training.  My question was did any of the people that announced the earthquake contact WW? If so, it would be interesting to me and I'm sure others as to what EXACTLY they had to say.  Since WW was the only name on their map!  If one doesn't read the forum how would they know about the CERT training?  In the event of an earthquake what should we expect?  What has been put in place?  If one is trapped in their home, is there a group of people that will be searching?  Have we had any community classes or conversations that I don't know about?  Held at the school?  Has any literature been passed out to the residents of WW?  I would think some well written literature would be nice to have to refer to. You mentioned the Wildfire Awareness Day.  If one was not able to attend they might not have the literature.  Shouldn't it be mailed to the residents of WW?

Mokandi, the map you saw on the news program, if it is the same I saw, is NOT any kind of official earthquake map. It was created by their graphic arts department. Were an earthquake ACTUALLY PREDICITED for Wrightwood directly, I am certain officials of all sorts would be here as they would love to be able to actually predict and monitor an earthquake.

A strong quake for California is possible from the Oregon border to the Mexico border. There is just slightly greater risk that it will occur around our town, but we should always be 100% ready. Your concerns listed above have actually been (and are being) addressed by the CERT group. Emergency Response would do such things as patrolling a neighborhood to make sure gas isn't leaking, people aren't trapped, etc. The school has an emergency container in place should they be required to hold the children at the school. You can do your part by learning what you should have on hand in the event of an earthquake. Also, I recommend you start attending the MAC committee meetings.

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« Reply #12 on: Apr 27, 08, 11:00:25 AM »
Good Information.  Thank you!  Would love to attend the MAC meetings and will do so as soon as I can.  I have a disabled husband, but he is doing better after the last surgery. Would be more than happy to have literature in Off Melrose to pass out.

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« Reply #13 on: May 01, 08, 03:15:49 PM »
Very interesting ShakeMovie link
Caltech's Near Real Time Simulation of Southern California Seismic Events

http://shakemovie.caltech.edu/

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Re: Big Quake Likely To Hit California By 2037
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 08, 03:31:57 PM »
Dec. 21, 2012 is the predicted end of the world. Maybe the big quake will be on that date.  :o

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Re: Big Quake Likely To Hit California By 2037
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 08, 09:44:40 AM »
Is that prediction based on the end of the Mayan calender? :-\

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« Reply #17 on: May 05, 08, 09:52:05 AM »
Is that prediction based on the end of the Mayan calender? :-\

Yes. There are supposed to be big things like quakes etc...