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Goody2shz

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Lupine Campground
« Reply #20 on: Feb 21, 10, 01:26:58 AM »
I was reading on the forest service webpage recently that Lupine Campground has been closed due to endangerment of the yellow legged frog or some such creature.  Does anyone know if that is true?  Does that mean the road down there won't be opened after the snow melts?

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Re: Lupine Campground
« Reply #22 on: Feb 21, 10, 03:11:30 AM »
That's pretty much the same information I've already seen.  Does anyone have any firsthand information?  The campground was open to vehicles last year, so when did this happen?  Cabin Flat is also listed as closed for the same reason but it's been closed for years.  What happened?  Did the yellow legged frog all of a sudden migrate towards Lupine?

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Re: Question about Lupine
« Reply #23 on: Feb 21, 10, 06:37:13 AM »
Lupine is NOT closed because of the Yellow-Legged Frog.  It is now closed due to SNOW.

Lupine was closed in the past because of the Yellow Legged Frog.  CDFG wanted to determine if this species was endangered because of human interaction, or whether it even existed in the canyon.  After several years they determined that there were no Yellow Legged Frogs in the area.  At that time a major fire blew through the area.  Even though the campground would have been opened, the Lupine Campground remained closed for several more years because of the danger of burned trees falling.  Once those trees were felled and the canyon was made safe, the campground was opened. 

It has been about 4 years since the campground has been opened.  It will open again this spring once the snow has melted and the road can be traveled into the canyon.

The only area in our area of the Angeles National Forest that is now closed due to the Yellow Legged Frog is the Williamson Rock area.  The temporary closure for THAT area will run until at least December 31, 2010.

Cabin Flat is no longer a campground accessble to vehicles because of all the felled trees and the stream having washed out the road.  Cabin Flat is technically "decommissioned" as an official campground.  People can walk in, but  We don't maintain it, so officially, we don't call it a campground anymore... and the rules of developed sites don't apply here anymore either.  That means no campfires allowed!!!

We have found, while patrolling the area that Jeeps and 4x4 vehicles are able to access the area.  This is currently against the law and violators have been cited.

There is talk of possibly making this an OHV route in the future.


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Re: Question about Lupine
« Reply #24 on: Feb 22, 10, 03:46:43 PM »
Lupine is NOT closed because of the Yellow-Legged Frog.  It is now closed due to SNOW.

Lupine was closed in the past because of the Yellow Legged Frog.  CDFG wanted to determine if this species was endangered because of human interaction, or whether it even existed in the canyon. 

The chytrid fungus is killing most of the frogs, and has nothing to do with human interaction with the exception that some say the CDFG is helping spread the fungus by not properly decondaminating their equipment. 

http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/1524/origin-frog-killing-fungus-probed

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Re: Question about Lupine
« Reply #25 on: Feb 23, 10, 06:44:41 AM »
Great!  That is a beautiful area and my husband and I love using Lupine as a base for backpacking trips.  We weren't looking forward to adding that long, steep hill into our backpacking equation.  I guess the Forest Service just hasn't updated their website.  Thanks for the updated info!