Author Topic: Ballot measure that will repeal $5.2 billion in annual gas and car tax increases  (Read 9232 times)

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Offline Wrightwood

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Offline lwt42

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Once upon a time, gasoline taxes went directly to transportation projects and I think I could support a gas tax increase if that were still true.

I wish the HJTA initiative had addressed that: gasoline taxes (and license fees) should pay for roads.

Does anyone remember what year the Legislature started dumping gasoline taxes into the General Fund (where it can be spent on anything)?

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lwt42...I agree completely! 

Offline tcaarabians

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I might accept it if they transferred some of the money they transferred out of the fire fee fund into the general fund.. back into the fire fee fund.

Offline Cheapskate

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"Dedicated taxes" are always a scam.   Suppose the general fund already spends $20 billion on roads...then the "dedicated" tax raises $30 billion. They'll spend $30 billion on roads (not 50!) because they legally must,  but it frees them to spend the previous $20 billion on other things you didn't vote for.  Someday CA will stop voting stupid... 

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"Dedicated taxes" are always a scam.   Suppose the general fund already spends $20 billion on roads...then the "dedicated" tax raises $30 billion. They'll spend $30 billion on roads (not 50!) because they legally must,  but it frees them to spend the previous $20 billion on other things you didn't vote for.  Someday CA will stop voting stupid...
I agree, and I don't.

I agree that an increase earmarked for roads means that much is released for "other purposes" -- and those may not be what we want our government to fund.

This is one place where the tax (on fuel) for each taxpayer is proportional to their use of the roads.  Those who don't own cars and don't drive still benefit, but they also contribute since groceries and other items, taxis and ride-sharing services include fuel taxes as part of their costs.

As it sits now, the entire new $5 billion in taxes goes to the general fund, and can be spent for whatever the legislators wish.  If fuel tax monies went to a dedicated fund, we'd get at least that much spent -- and the money would come from those who use roads, in proportion to their use.

Using your math, we're guaranteed somewhere between $50 billion, and zero, just depending.