San Bernardino County secession measure moves forward added to Nov ballot

[Wrightwood]

San Bernardino County secession measure moves forward, added to November ballot

https://abc7.com/san-bernardino-county-secede-california-empire/12097709/

SAN BERNARDINO, Calif. (KABC) -- San Bernardino County voters will get a chance to vote on whether they want the county to secede from California.

The county Board of Supervisors voted Wednesday to put the measure on the November 2022 ballot.
Many people who spoke at the board's regular meeting said they believe the county is missing out on revenue it deserves.
If successful, the longshot plan would create the first new state since Hawaii was granted statehood in 1959.
On July 26, Rancho Cucamonga businessman Jeff Burum asked the Board of Supervisors to put the advisory measure on the ballot.
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As far as population, San Bernardino County has almost 2.2 million people. If it were to become its own state, it would be more populous than 15 other states in the country.

[Lepo]

Even if this passes. It would need US congressional approval. Which would never happen.

[lwt42]

Sabre Rattling.  It's all about getting some attention in Sacramento and Washington so that we get more funding from there.

Including secession in the bill is political theater.

That said, I'm in favor.

[SkierBob]

If SB County was a State it would be larger in area then these states.

Rhode Island, Delaware, Connecticut, New Jersey, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Hawaii, Maryland

[Joe Schmoe]

March the clowns out of politics.  Go get a hobby, subversive, divisive losers.

[lwt42]

Part of the insanity that is politics is that our political leaders want to brag that they brought back $1.20 for every dollar we paid in taxes (or more).

That simple fact explains deficit spending.

According to the article, San Bernardino County is getting less than a buck out of each tax dollar, and they want their fair share.

[tcaarabians]

The Supervisors have voted to spend around $300-400 thousand on a ballot measure they could have simply directed staff to explore. (I'm using the Registrar's estimate for the costs related to Measure U for that number.) In particular, the question of if or why SB County isn't receiving its fair share of state disbursements. One issue that we can certainly raise is that the various standards for grants and regulations for various laws are geared to populous cities - not rural areas. That said, I will vote against seceding from California. If this measure is voted against - can the Supervisors turn around and expend staff time and money to study SB County's 'fair share' of state monies? Probably not.  The proposal has to go through two more readings. Time to send an email to Cook.

[lwt42]

The Supervisors have voted to spend around $300-400 thousand on a ballot measure they could have simply directed staff to explore.

This would be the first question I'd ask our Supervisor.

As I read the news (and it'd be worth reading the whole measure, not just grabbing on to the sensational bit) is that it tells the BoS that we the voters want them to do whatever it takes to get our fair share out of Sacramento, no matter how dramatic those measures might become.  They can then use our mandate when negotiating with the State Government.

So before you vote against "succession" it'd be a good idea to read the whole measure and see what else it authorizes.  Might be throwing out the metaphorical baby with the bath water -- everyone knows secession is unlikely.

It is fun to think of what we'd have if every county did this and we had 57 new states.

[tcaarabians]

https://sanbernardino.legistar.com/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=5746344&GUID=127BFC7B-EDAD-4160-BA93-B390238DAF82&Options=&Search=

It was approved 'as amended."  Second reading is the 9th.  I do not have the language of the amendment. It is likely on the 8/9 agenda documents.

[lwt42]

https://sanbernardino.legistar.com/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=5746344&GUID=127BFC7B-EDAD-4160-BA93-B390238DAF82&Options=&Search=

It was approved 'as amended."  Second reading is the 9th.  I do not have the language of the amendment. It is likely on the 8/9 agenda documents.

Here is the amendment:

WHEREAS, the Board of Supervisors desires to place before the voters a Measure
to see if the citizens of San Bernardino County want the San Bernardino County Board of
Supervisors to pursue all options, up to and including seeking approval to form a new
state, so that San Bernardino County can obtain its fair share of state and federal
resources.

The amendment removes the word secede, and adds "form a new state."  It makes it clear that they're aiming at Sacramento, although it shows some resolve.

If you're about to get into a sword fight, you draw your weapon silently.  If you want to avoid a sword fight, you rattle it as you pull it from the scabard.  Gives the other side a chance to think before they start.

It's a pretty empty threat, but a threat nontheless.

[Wrightwood]

San Bernardino County votes to study secession

RANCHO CUCAMONGA, Calif. -- The November elections saw Californians continue to embrace progressive leadership, but voters in one of the state's most populous counties are so frustrated with this political direction that they voted to consider seceding and forming their own state.

An advisory ballot proposal approved in San Bernardino County - home to 2.2 million people - directs local officials to study the possibility of secession. The razor-thin margin of victory is the latest sign of political unrest and economic distress in California.

https://abc7.com/san-bernardino-county-study-2022-secede-california/12593872/?fbclid=IwAR217kyFyPmhv_QUGM4J9RX-RMaSoFQQYEOJAvwdBDRWpUCLwG8a6t7hC_8

[tt2468]

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