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Offline RobertW

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Mobile Radios
« on: Mar 17, 09, 04:58:25 PM »
Thought I'd start a thread dedicated to Mobile Radios and their installation.  I'm working on getting my Yaesu 8500 installed in my Toyota Corolla.  NOT an easy task.  I'm using the remote kit so as to keep the radio hidden from view.  The radio is under the seat with the remote head being located in the foldout sunglass holder on the front console.

Though not recommended, I HAD to go with a trunk mount as there is no room to put the antenna on the roof as it has a Sun/Moon Roof that slides open.  It doesn't leave any room for mounting the antenna on the roof as the radio antenna is already there and in the way.

I've heard that the following are very good mobile radios:

Kenwood TH271A (2 meter)


Yaesu 7800 (2 meter / 440)



Yaesu 8800 (2 meter / 440)



Alinco DR235TMkIII (220 band)



BTW, Anyone have any suggestions as to how I can clean up the mobile radios I presently have in my car?   ;D


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Re: Mobile Radios
« Reply #1 on: Mar 17, 09, 08:09:36 PM »
BTW, Anyone have any suggestions as to how I can clean up the mobile radios I presently have in my car?   ;D



Drop them all off at my house  ;) ;)

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Re: Mobile Radios
« Reply #2 on: Mar 17, 09, 08:34:13 PM »
BTW, Anyone have any suggestions as to how I can clean up the mobile radios I presently have in my car?   ;D

Hold a raw pot roast in one hand, key up all the mics at one time, and cook dinner? ;)

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Re: Mobile Radios
« Reply #3 on: Mar 17, 09, 10:07:44 PM »
We wanted our first mobile units to be simple to operate, until we "graduate" to something more complicated.

With the help of Clint, KB6CLA, I installed a Kenwood TM-271 in my Honda Fit.  It's screwed into the side of the center console, on the passenger side.  It does limit the forward travel of that seat, but that seat is usually empty anyway.  I have another Kenwood TM-271 to be installed in KI6PBN's WRX, probably in a similar location.

Both of those radios have Larsen 1/4 wave antennas installed (or to be installed) in the center of the roof.

My Sport Trac truck has a Yaesu FT-7800, which is a 2M/440 Mhz radio.  The headunit is velcroed just under the HVAC controls, while the radio is behind the second seat in a compartment that houses the subwoofer.  This radio has a Diamond 2M/440 antenna, also in the center of the roof.

I also stumbled upon a neat website that sells laminated cards with brief instructions on radio programming.  It's easier than carrying the manual around if I forget how to do something on these radios (or the HTs as well).

http://www.nifty-accessories.com/

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Re: Mobile Radios
« Reply #4 on: Mar 18, 09, 03:23:20 PM »
Yea that picture was a classic in it's day...  ;D

 I had the same conflict when I bought my Silverado, were to put the remote head for my Kenwood TM742.

 I opend the ashtray and the head unit fit perfectly. Off came the door to the ashtray and I machined up a mount to hold the remote head. The end result looks factory and tucked neatly into the dash instead of just plastered on like some installations I've seen.

 Getting the power to the battery (directly  ;) ) wasn't to dificult. By using velcro on the bottom of the transceiver it fit nicely under the rear seat and still gets enough ventilation. I pulled the thresh hold runners up and followed the factory wiring harness through the fire-wall. Pushing the "that was easy button" I moved on to the antenna.

 I must admit I'm not a fan of Mag-mounts but couldn't bring myself to getting out the uni-bit and drill motor to punch a hole in the roof of my new truck still with paper plates. If you must go with a mag-maount I suggest buying a good one such as a Diamond. The upper end mag-mounts will come with quality coax and an end connector that can be taken apart to ease getting the coax through a smaller hole. The trick to getting a mag-mount to work at it's best is to run a braided ground wire from the base of the antenna 259 connector to a suitable ground location. Why braided ground wire? well think about it, a wire is basically an antenna and will radiate usually by 1/4 wavelengths. I also use braided ground wire to ground the chassis of the radio to the body. If this may sound like a permanent installation, well it is. If you need to remove the antenna for a parking structure you simply unscrew it  which you would do any way drilling the hole ;)

 Diamond, Comet, and Larson make a ton of roof rack mounts, fender / rear decklid mounts that work very well to secure the antenna. There's plenty of antenna mount options available but should still ground those mounts as well.

 I personally like NMO mounts drilled directly into the vehicle body such as I did on the roof of my Dodge Ramcharger.

 Bob, when Kerin had her Toyota we were able to get through the fire wall for power via a factory installed rubber plug that wasn't in use. Several vehicles have plugs meant for other uses / options that weren't installed on that particular model.

 There's allways a way to get a radio installed, it just takes carefull planning.... now were's my drill  ;D

 

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Re: Mobile Radios
« Reply #5 on: Jul 29, 09, 10:48:12 PM »
I have a Yaesu VX-170 HT and have been extremely happy with it. I've built a couple of homebrew antennas and they have really inreased my capabilities. I'm ready for a little more power. I'd like to buy a 2M mobile to use as a base station at my house. (Maybe the 2nd radio at the house will encourage my wife to get her ticket.) I do not want a duel band at the house because I just mounted my copper J pole and I don't want to buy a new antenna yet. I'm pretty proud of the work that went into the antenna and it was a bit of a group effort.

Does anyone own a Yaesu FT-1802M, FT-1900R, or FT-2900R? How do you like it? Does the FT-2900R have an expanded frequency range for public service frequencies?

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Re: Mobile Radios
« Reply #6 on: Oct 01, 09, 10:05:39 PM »
Does anyone have information for or against the use of the comet door lip mounts? It seems like a practical way to mount an antenna without drilling. I've been thinking about using a magnetic mount for a mobile antenna but I just saw these lip mounts in the new AES catalog and I like the idea.

I have a Nissan Xterra and mounting an antenna half way up the rear hatch would allow for better overhead clearance than mounting on the roof.

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Re: Mobile Radios
« Reply #7 on: Oct 01, 09, 10:33:35 PM »
I must admit I'm not a fan of Mag-mounts but couldn't bring myself to getting out the uni-bit and drill motor to punch a hole in the roof of my new truck still with paper plates.

oh come on now,,, put a hole in the roof.  It makes drilling the 2nd hole a lot less painful. 

I've never had a problem with drilling a hole in the roof.  You do it, then you forget about it. 

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Re: Mobile Radios
« Reply #8 on: Oct 02, 09, 02:28:32 AM »
Yea your right... I hate it when your right... ;)

I did drill holes in the roof of my Ramcharger were the interior dome lights are and that worked out slick.

 But I 'm not drilling holes in my Silverado period. Besides, a high quality mag mount that's grounded with a 1/2" wide ground strap at the base of the antenna to the frame, performs just as well as poking holes and sanding the paint away.  :thumbs:
 However, since I'm probably going to my grave with this truck  :-\ I may as well get out the chassis punch and go for it.

 When you buy'n lunch dude... ::)

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Re: Mobile Radios
« Reply #9 on: Oct 14, 09, 05:38:27 AM »
I have the yaesu 1802m in my jeep and like it very much, i have a mag mount antenna on the roof and it really gets up and talks, I also have the yaesu 7700 in my car with a trunk lid mount antenna ( sliding sun roof ) and it also gets out there....love them both

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Re: Mobile Radios
« Reply #10 on: Dec 01, 09, 12:49:25 AM »
I just went ahead and drilled 3 holes in my roof. I put up a tri-band antenna in the center. I bought covers for the other 2 mounts and am keeping them in mind as futures. I've been connecting the antenna to my HT and it works really well for now. I plan to get a tri-band HT before a radio for my car. I spend a lot of time on my bike and on foot so a tri-band HT with a speaker mic is more practical for me.

I have a Yaesu FT 2900R that I'm using as my base station at home. I'd like to put some Anderson power poles in my car so I can put it in the car in a pinch.

I'm actually really happy that I drilled the holes. The cables are all hidden in the head liner and under the carpeting. It looks professionally done and was much easier than I thought it would be. Good guidance and the right tools make a world of difference! Thanks to everyone for all your advice and help.

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Re: Mobile Radios
« Reply #11 on: Feb 24, 10, 08:56:54 PM »
Can anyone tell me about the quality of the Diamond 224A mobile antenna? It's definately an older antenna. It has a mount that I have never seen before. It came with a used radio that I bought and I am trying to figure out what to do with it.

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Re: Mobile Radios
« Reply #12 on: Feb 24, 10, 09:13:59 PM »

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Re: Mobile Radios
« Reply #13 on: Feb 24, 10, 09:36:42 PM »
Thanks John  ;D

I think I know how to make this work for me in an emergency. I have stuff for a PL 259.

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Re: Mobile Radios
« Reply #14 on: Feb 24, 10, 09:57:56 PM »
That's why duct tape and bailing wire is always handy to have around  ;D

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Re: Mobile Radios
« Reply #15 on: Feb 24, 10, 10:00:15 PM »
Between working on Sundays and answers like that I'm really beginning to think you've worked at a camp.  ;)