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Re: More Fires Burning In Southern California
« Reply #20 on: Aug 30, 09, 03:50:11 PM »
Cottonwood Fire Update

Sunday, August 30, 2009 8:00 a.m.

San Bernardino National Forest Fire Information Center: (909) 383-5688
On-scene contact Marc Peebles, PIO (909) 855-7794

On The Web: http://www.inciweb.org/incident/1865

Fire location: Approximately 1 mile east of Cranston and 4 miles east of Hemet/Valle Vista in the San Jacinto Mountains
Date/time started: August 27, 2009, 5:13pm                         Total acres burned: 2,409
Percent contained: 75%                                                 Fireline to be constructed: 2.5 miles
Expected containment: August 31, 2009                                 Expected control: not determined
Suppression costs to date: $1,500,000                                Structures damaged/destroyed: 0
Cause: Power pole related - investigation ongoing                         Injuries: 5 - heat related
Staffing: Engines        Crews                Dozers        Air Tankers        Helicopters        Water Tenders
        38             25                      3                        2                         3                        12

Total Personnel: 767

Terrain/vegetation/difficulties: The fire is currently burning in brush and light grass type fuels, with steep and rocky terrain. Additionally high temperatures with low humidity are expected throughout the day.

Current situation: There was minimal fire growth overnight. Helicopters, engines and crews continue to build and improve containment line, mop-up and attack flare-ups. Specifically, crews are working to complete 2.5 miles of line on the north side of the fire.  State Hwy 74 reopened this morning at 6:00am.

Evacuations: All evacuated residents have been allowed to return to their homes.

Closures and road status: Highway 74 was open to all travelers as of 6:00 a.m. this morning.
Three forest access roads are closed in the northwest portion of the district, including the San Jacinto Truck Trail (5S07), the Control Road (5S06), and the Indian Mountain Truck Trail (4S21). The road closures prohibit public entry and will last until the current fire conditions subside. Wood and charcoal fires are currently prohibited across the entire district, including developed sites.

Incident Commander: Southern California Team 3 (Wakoski) assumed command of the incident on
August 28, 2009. Incident is in Unified Command with Cal Fire (Ritchey).

Incident Command Post: Base camp is off Hwy 74 in Garner Valley east of Lake Hemet.


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Re: More Fires Burning In Southern California
« Reply #21 on: Aug 31, 09, 05:08:57 AM »
2 Firefighters Killed As Station Fire Grows Station Fire Threatens Thousands Of Homes LOS ANGELES (CBS) --

The Station Fire burned out of control Sunday morning, spreading in all directions.

Two firefighters were killed when their vehicle overturned on Mount Wilson Sunday, where fire crews anxiously worked to contain the monstrous Station fire.

The 35,000-acre fire threatened over 10,000 homes, 500 commercial properties and 2,000 other structures and rained ash on cars as far away as downtown Los Angeles on Sunday, spreading in all directions in hot, dry conditions.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger urged those in the fire's path to listen to authorities and get out.

Firefighters focused their attention on the blaze's fast-moving northern front as more evacuations were ordered in the Los Angeles suburbs.

Another fire broke near the city of Yucaipa Sunday, and Oak Glenn residents were told to evacuate. Dubbed the Oak Glenn fire, the blaze has scorched more than 350 acres with no signs of containment. There were no reports of injuries or structural damage.

While thousands have already fled the Station fire, two people who tried to ride out the firestorm in a backyard hot tub were critically burned. The pair in Big Tujunga Canyon, on the southwestern edge of the fire, "completely underestimated the fire" and the hot tub provided "no protection whatsoever," Sheriff's spokesman Steve Whitmore said Sunday.

Another three people were injured in the fire Saturday in areas with evacuations in effect.

"There were people that did not listen, and there were three people that got burned and got critically injured because they did not listen," Schwarzenegger said at a news conference at the fire command post.

The blaze was only about 5 percent contained and had scorched 55 square miles in the Angeles National Forest. Mandatory evacuations were in effect for neighborhoods in Acton, Altadena, Pasadena, La Crescenta and Big Tujunga Canyon. Officials said air quality in parts of the foothills bordered on hazardous.

By Saturday night, mandatory evacuation orders were lifted for areas on Vista Del Valle Road between Angeles Crest Highway and La Canada Blvd.; La Canada Blvd. north of Vista Del Valle Rd.; Big Briar Way off Haskell St.; El Vago St. between La Canada Blvd. and Alta Canyada Rd; Donna Maria Ln.; Indian Dr.; Hacienda Dr.; Alta Canyada Rd. north of El Vago St. and Linda Vista Dr.

On Sunday, mandatory evacuation orders were lifted for neighborhoods north of Santa Carlotta between Lowell and Pennsylvania Avenues in Glendale.

However, new evacuation orders were issued for residences in La Canada/Flintridge homes east of Jenssen Drive, northeast of Los Amigos St. east of Castle Road and east of Ocean View Road, as well as all residences to the south of Soledad Canyon Road from Highway 14 to Crown Valley Road and all residences in Alison Canyon Road from Angeles Forest Highway to Soledad Canyon Road in Acton. For a complete list of evacuation orders, click here.

At least three homes deep in the Angeles National Forest were confirmed destroyed, but firefighters were likely to find others, Dietrich said.

Firefighters hoped to keep the blaze from spreading up Mount Wilson, where many of the region's broadcast and communications antennas and a historic observatory are located. Flames were within two miles of the towers Sunday, fire officials said.

For the third straight day, humidity was very low and temperatures were expected in the high 90s. Some 2,000 firefighters were battling the blaze.

The fire traveled six to eight miles overnight, burning as actively during the night as it did during the day, said Forest Service Capt. Mike Dietrich. Dietrich said he had never seen a fire grow so quickly without powerful Santa Ana winds to push it.

"The leading edge, the one they're really focused on, is that northern edge. It's moving pretty fast up in that direction," said U.S. Forest Service spokeswoman Randi Jorgenson. "But the fire's growing in all directions. All fronts are going to be areas of concern today." At the fire command post, Schwarzenegger praised firefighters for successfully protecting subdivisions in the foothills.

Rob Driscoll and his wife, Beth Halaas, said they lost their house in Big Tujunga Canyon. By Sunday morning they were desperate for more information and came to the command post to get answers.

"Our neighbors sent us photos of all the other houses that are lost," Halaas said, her voice breaking as her young son nestled his sunburned face in her arms. "We've heard as many as 30 houses burned."

Driscoll said 15 of his neighbors who live on private property within the forest were still waiting for word on their homes. Fire officials assured them teams were working to survey the damage.

At least four evacuation centers were set up at schools and community centers in the area.

The fire, which broke out Wednesday afternoon, was the largest and most dangerous of several burning around southern and central California and in Yosemite National Park.

A second fire, dubbed the Morris Fire, in the Angeles National Forest was burning several miles to the east in a canyon above the city of Azusa. The
3.4-square-mile blaze, which started Tuesday afternoon, was 95 percent contained Sunday. No homes were threatened, and full containment was expected by Monday.

The Oak Glenn fire broke Sunday near the city of Yucaipa, quickly charring
350 acres with no signs of containment. Oak Glenn residents were told to evacuate to the Yucaipa Community Center.

A wildfire on the Palos Verdes Peninsula on the south Los Angeles County coast was 100 percent contained, according to county fire officials.

Southeast of Los Angeles in Riverside County, a 3.8-square-mile fire, known as the Cottonwood fire, was burning in a rural area of the San Bernardino National Forest. It was 75 percent contained as it burned in steep, rocky terrain in Beeb Canyon. No structures were threatened.

To the north, in the state's coastal midsection, a 9.4-square-mile fire threatening Pinnacles National Monument kept 100 homes under evacuation orders near the Monterey County town of Soledad. The blaze, 60 percent contained, was started by agricultural fireworks used to scare animals away from crops. The fire destroyed one home.

In Mariposa County, a nearly 6.8-square-mile fire burned in Yosemite National Park. The blaze was 50 percent contained Sunday, said park spokeswoman Vickie Mates. Two people sustained minor injuries, she said.

Park officials closed a campground and a portion of Highway 120, anticipating that the fire would spread north toward Tioga Road, the highest elevation route through the Sierra.

About 100 residents from the towns of El Portal and Foresta were under evacuation orders, said Brad Aborn, chairman of Mariposa's Board of Supervisors.

Statewide, there were eight large fires burning that scorched about 55,000 acres, according to Gov. Schwarzenegger.

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Re: More Fires Burning In Southern California
« Reply #22 on: Aug 31, 09, 04:14:31 PM »
Cottonwood Fire Update


Monday, August 31, 2009 8:00am


San Bernardino National Forest Fire Information Center:  (909) 383-5688 On-scene contact Marc Peebles, PIO (909) 855-7794

On The Web: http://www.inciweb.org/incident/1865


Fire location:  Approximately 1 mile east of Cranston and 4 miles east of Hemet / Valle Vista in the San Jacinto Mountains. Date/time started:  August 27, 2009, 5:13pm                    Total acres burned:  2,409 Percent contained:  95%                Fireline to be constructed:  0.8 miles Expected containment:  August 31, 2009                 Expected control:  not determined Suppression costs to date:  1,750,000                Structures damaged/destroyed: 0 Cause:  Power pole related-investigation ongoing        Injuries: 5 - heat related

Staffing:    Engines,    Crews,    Dozers,    Helicopters,    Water Tenders
28             15            3                  3                  16 Total Personnel:  662

Terrain/vegetation/difficulties: The fire area is in brush and light grass type fuels, with steep and rocky terrain. High temperatures with low humidity are still expected to remain throughout the day. Tomorrow the predicted temperatures are to be slightly lower and relative humidity higher. Weather, vegetation and their potential impact on the fire behavior, continue to be a concern for firefighter safety. Firefighters still continue to work in steep rugged terrain on several parts of the fire. Helicopters are shuttling crews into the most difficult areas of access.

Current situation:  Engines and crews continue to improve containment lines, mop-up and patrol for hotspots. It is anticipated that the incident will be transitioned back to the San Jacinto Ranger District on Tuesday evening at 6:00 pm. A scaled down firefighting force from the local district will remain on the fire for several days after the transition to mop-up and patrol any lingering hot spots.

Closures and road status:  Highway 74 is now open to all travelers without restrictions. Certain forest access roads are closed in the northwest portion of the district, Bee Canyon Road (5S07), San Jacinto Truck Trail (5S09), Control Road (5S06), Indian Mountain Truck Trail (4S21), Red Hill Truck Trail (5S10), and Sewer Pond Road (5S24). The road closures prohibit public entry and will last until the current fire conditions subside. Wood and charcoal fires are currently prohibited across the entire district, including developed sites.

Incident Commander:  Southern California Team 3 (Wakoski) assumed command of the incident on August 28, 2009. Southern California Incident Management Team 3 would like to thank the public for their continued support and appreciation.

Incident Command Post:  Base camp is off Hwy 74 in Garner Valley east of Lake Hemet.

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Re: More Fires Burning In Southern California
« Reply #23 on: Aug 31, 09, 04:38:42 PM »
There's been a lot of interest in firefighting aircraft, especially the larger aircraft.
It's good to understand that aircraft do not put out fires. The purpose of water- and retardant-dropping aircraft is to slow the forward progress of the fire so that ground crews can come in and contain the fire.
Bigger is not always better. Aircraft in various sizes and of various types are useful in different types of terrain and differing weather conditions. Smaller, more maneuverable aircraft are more useful in steep terrain and narrow canyons.
It's more a matter of fitting the specific firefighting resources to the specific situation.

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Re: More Fires Burning In Southern California
« Reply #24 on: Aug 31, 09, 04:54:41 PM »
There's been a lot of interest in firefighting aircraft, especially the larger aircraft.
It's good to understand that aircraft do not put out fires. The purpose of water- and retardant-dropping aircraft is to slow the forward progress of the fire so that ground crews can come in and contain the fire.
Bigger is not always better. Aircraft in various sizes and of various types are useful in different types of terrain and differing weather conditions. Smaller, more maneuverable aircraft are more useful in steep terrain and narrow canyons.
It's more a matter of fitting the specific firefighting resources to the specific situation.

Bigger is not always better?  Sounds like a union mentality that doesn't want the larger aircraft putting hand crews out of work. 

I'm still under the opinion that if you don't have proper brush clearance by now you're basically counting on fire crews to save your ass, and hey if that's what you're counting on you owe fire crews one big Thank You that's for sure.

Evidently the USFS didn't have proper brush clearance on Mt Lukins and their radio repeater when up in flames.   The vegitation around Mt Wilson is unexcusable.. They could have had inmate's clear that brush back a 1/4 mile if they practiced what they preached.

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Re: More Fires Burning In Southern California
« Reply #25 on: Aug 31, 09, 05:07:53 PM »
"Sounds like a union mentality that doesn't want the larger aircraft putting hand crews out of work."

No.
The purpose of firefighting aircraft is to slow the forward progress of the fire to allow ground crews to come in and contain the fire.
This is common fire science knowledge. Ask any firefighter.

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Re: More Fires Burning In Southern California
« Reply #26 on: Aug 31, 09, 05:21:20 PM »
"Sounds like a union mentality that doesn't want the larger aircraft putting hand crews out of work."

No.
The purpose of firefighting aircraft is to slow the forward progress of the fire to allow ground crews to come in and contain the fire.
This is common fire science knowledge. Ask any firefighter.

ok,,

I hope they're slowing the movement to the East. It's about to cross into the Littlerock drainage and from there it has plenty of fuel to burn into Juniper Hills.  Areas of Juniper Hills hasn't burned in 80 years..


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Re: More Fires Burning In Southern California
« Reply #27 on: Aug 31, 09, 05:38:48 PM »
Evidently the USFS didn't have proper brush clearance on Mt Lukins and their radio repeater when up in flames.   The vegitation around Mt Wilson is unexcusable.. They could have had inmate's clear that brush back a 1/4 mile if they practiced what they preached.

O.k.  Mt. Lukins--I think the FS can take the hit for that.  I know I kept ragging on my crews to clear around the repeaters around Inspiration Point and a few others (how quickly we forget the names..).  But Mt. Wilson structures are PRIVATELY OWNED.  That means it is the responsibility of the tower/building owners to do the defensible space.  It frost my hide that they blew it off and then I, as a tax payer, have to pay for fire crews to do the work that they should have done.  I have the same issue with the Sandia Crest electronic site just east of Albuquerque.  I keep telling these people they need to come in, do the NEPA and get all the dead trees out of there.  They'll do the same fiddley farting around and then make it MY job to make sure their d*mn repeaters don't burn up (like they did down south on the Trigo fire). 

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Re: More Fires Burning In Southern California
« Reply #28 on: Sep 01, 09, 01:38:02 AM »
Please... In order to keep rumors and misstatements of facts down:

No further posting of fire facts without listing the source. All others will be deleted.

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Re: More Fires Burning In Southern California
« Reply #29 on: Sep 01, 09, 01:49:40 AM »
I didn't find info on a fire that KFI reported this afternoon. In Yucaipa, near Golden View and Pendleton. Anyone else hear about it?

BTW, I'm trying not to post rumor, just trying to find out about a possible fire reported on KFI.

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Re: More Fires Burning In Southern California
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Re: More Fires Burning In Southern California
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Re: More Fires Burning In Southern California
« Reply #32 on: Sep 01, 09, 04:37:00 PM »
Live stream alert from ABC7 Eyewitness News
   
Tuesday, September 1, 2009
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger holds a press conference after surveying the Yucaipa-area wildfires. A 1,012-acre fire burning in Oak Glen is threatening thousands of structures, while a smaller fire, the Pendleton Fire, has burned about 640 acres.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/livenow?id=6993384

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Re: More Fires Burning In Southern California
« Reply #33 on: Sep 03, 09, 05:31:50 AM »
Smell smoke again.  Where is this coming from?

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Re: More Fires Burning In Southern California
« Reply #34 on: Sep 04, 09, 05:44:19 AM »
The Morris Fire was 100% contained at 6:00 p.m. on September 3, 2009.

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Big Meadow fire in Yosemite National Park
« Reply #35 on: Sep 07, 09, 10:21:06 PM »
The Big Meadow fire in Yosemite National Park started when a prescribed burn got out of control.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/outposts/2009/09/yosemite-fire-2.html

Big Meadow Fire:

A prescribed fire set by Yosemite National Park (NPS) fire crews on Wednesday, August 26, has grown beyond the predetermined fire perimeter and full supression efforts are in effect.

The fire was originally slated to burn 90 acres; however it burned beyond the fire lines.

Once the fire began burning beyond the perimeter late Wednesday morning, National Park Service (NPS) firefighters began supression efforts. NPS firefighters ordered additional resources including air tankers, helicopters, bulldozers, and additional firefighters.

All updates about this fire will now be available through InciWeb and InciWeb fire maps. You can also follow on Twitter (@YosemiteNPS and @YosemiteScience for related news).

In addition, get answers to frequently asked questions [FAQs] about the fire (including why the fire was ignited), and view current park conditions, including road closures.

http://www.nps.gov/yose/parkmgmt/current_fire.htm

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Re: More Fires Burning In Southern California
« Reply #36 on: Sep 22, 09, 07:00:57 PM »
BDF Firefighters quickly suppressed a wildland fire on SR18 just above Old Waterman Canyon Road. Great job BDF Engine 36

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Norco Wildfire, started at 12:20 PM Today
« Reply #37 on: Sep 22, 09, 08:25:19 PM »
Channel 9 news is covering it along with the Fillmore (Ventura) Fire. People are evacuating their horses in Norco.

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Redlands Brush Fire
« Reply #38 on: Sep 22, 09, 09:12:49 PM »
Brush fire threatening homes in Redlands neighborhood
By Melissa Pinion-Whitt
Posted: 09/22/2009 01:48:40 PM PDT


Redlands firefighters rushed to a south Redlands neighborhood this afternoon after a brush fire broke out near homes.
The fire was reported about 1:30 p.m. on Sunset Drive near Helen Drive. Homes in the area were being evacuated.

Firefighters said about three to four acres of brush had burned and flames were creeping close to homes.




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Re: Norco Wildfire, started at 12:20 PM Today
« Reply #39 on: Sep 22, 09, 09:19:18 PM »
Per Ch. 9 News at 2:17 PM
*120-150 Acres
*No Injuries
*No structures lost
*No MANDATORY evacuations

Winds are an isssue, but they feel the fire can be under control in an hour!