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Offline lagomorphmom

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Wolves have revitalized an entire ecosystem.
« on: Sep 29, 10, 11:57:02 PM »
Dog health alert:  WW has heartworm!!!

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Re: Wolves have revitalized an entire ecosystem.
« Reply #1 on: Sep 30, 10, 12:51:44 AM »
Yay for the return to a more natural ecosystem.  :2thumbsup:
Humans really aren't as important as they think they are.

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Re: Wolves have revitalized an entire ecosystem.
« Reply #2 on: Sep 30, 10, 09:47:25 AM »
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Wow! That is amazing!!

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Re: Wolves have revitalized an entire ecosystem.
« Reply #3 on: Sep 30, 10, 12:34:30 PM »
Thanks lagomorphmom, good to know the natural balance is back and that intelligent life still exists on our planet! :)

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Re: Wolves have revitalized an entire ecosystem.
« Reply #4 on: Sep 30, 10, 04:18:09 PM »
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Wow! That is amazing!!
Yeah, I thought so. I had no idea.

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Re: Wolves have revitalized an entire ecosystem.
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Re: Wolves have revitalized an entire ecosystem.
« Reply #6 on: Apr 13, 11, 02:07:56 PM »
Fantastic news! Ah, but my heart bleeds for the poor, poor elk hunters. And for the ranchers whose cattle have overgrazed the plains for a century.

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Re: Wolves have revitalized an entire ecosystem.
« Reply #7 on: Apr 13, 11, 02:20:08 PM »
I sense.....sarcasm....... ;D

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Re: Wolves have revitalized an entire ecosystem.
« Reply #8 on: Apr 13, 11, 03:21:53 PM »
The wolf is one of nature's best creations.  To me and my own lore, the wolf is a creature related to peace.

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Re: Wolves have revitalized an entire ecosystem.
« Reply #9 on: Apr 16, 11, 05:33:20 PM »
The wolf now has a tough go in Montana, Idaho and Wyoming because of rider attached to the budget bill that lifts protections and de-lists the wolf as an endangered species.
From the New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2011/04/13/13greenwire-budgets-wolf-delisting-opens-pandoras-box-of-s-99159.html

Here is an example what some folks in other states are thinking....(these are actually pretty mild sentiments)
http://mainehuntingtoday.com/bbb/2008/02/27/pray-montana-suffers-massive-wolf-kills-on-elk-herd

What is really telling is to read down on the comments blog below.   These are from a Maine Hunting blog.  I wouldn't share the ones from the Western states as the language is pretty rough.

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Re: Wolves have revitalized an entire ecosystem.
« Reply #10 on: Apr 16, 11, 06:27:27 PM »
The wolf now has a tough go in Montana, Idaho and Wyoming because of rider attached to the budget bill that lifts protections and de-lists the wolf as an endangered species.
From the New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2011/04/13/13greenwire-budgets-wolf-delisting-opens-pandoras-box-of-s-99159.html

Here is an example what some folks in other states are thinking....(these are actually pretty mild sentiments)

http://mainehuntingtoday.com/bbb/2008/02/27/pray-montana-suffers-massive-wolf-kills-on-elk-herd

http://mainehuntingtoday.com/bbb/2008/02/27/pray-montana-suffers-massive-wolf-kills-on-elk-herd

What is really telling is to read down on the comments blog below.   These are from a Maine Hunting blog.  I wouldn't share the ones from the Western states as the language is pretty rough.

Wow some of those opinions are pretty politically motivated and purely based on "belief"... "religion"... "rights of gun ownership"... and other things... and nothing is offered in regard to evidence based research and/or quantitative research.   Therefore, my opinion is that a simbiotic relationship is possible between the elk and wolf population and that those with guns... should stay out of the benefit of nature balancing itself out.   Of course, my opinion based on reasonable guessing is just as valid as a person afraid his gun is going to be taken away from the badger who also has a simbiotic relationship with the wiley wolf.    ;)

Have no fear.  Why?  Because I said so.   :2thumbsup:  After all what I say is just as valid as the person who demands we fear. 

I love elk as much as I love wolves as much as I love nature.  I like guns and own a couple.  I don't hunt because I don't care to for personal and quite private reasons unrelated to my disdain for the NRA and their in my face tactics.   And my disdain for that organization...nor my gun ownership... doesn't make me any less nor any more American either.

But I digress from the ecosystem established by nature.  I do want to say that if an animal becomes a threat to human existance...then...and only then.... would I implore humans defend themselves from exitinction by that animal. 

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Re: Wolves have revitalized an entire ecosystem.
« Reply #11 on: Apr 17, 11, 02:22:52 PM »
I want to thank MMB for keeping the big, bigger, biggest picture in mind. We can shrink everything down to 'mini-me' size and as a result feel small, alone and afraid--or recognize that 'we' (meaning all living beings) are marvelous aspects of a far greater whole and find our place in it.

Thank you  MMB

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Re: Wolves have revitalized an entire ecosystem.
« Reply #12 on: Jan 02, 12, 04:55:28 PM »
BILLINGS, Mont. - Scientists say in a new study that the return of gray wolves has dramatically altered the landscape in portions of Yellowstone National Park by curbing foraging elk herds that prevented new aspen, willow and cottonwood trees from taking root.Study author William Ripple from Oregon State University said tree stands are expanding in areas where for decades dense elk populations prevented new growth.Wolves were reintroduced to Yellowstone in 1995 and 1996 after being killed off early last century. About 100 now roam the park, and elk numbers have dropped sharply.

As fewer elk allows the trees to rebound, Ripple says they are providing new habitat for songbirds and more food for beavers.The findings from Ripple and co-author Robert Beschta will be published in the scientific journal Biological Conservation.

http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2012/01/02/2333287/study-yellowstone-wolves-help.html

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Lone wolf crosses into California
« Reply #13 on: Jan 02, 12, 04:59:58 PM »
A gray wolf was confirmed to be roaming California for the first time in 87 years when a young male migrating in search of a mate crossed over the state line from Oregon on Wednesday.

The 2-year-old wolf, known as "OR7", has roamed more than 750 miles, crossing the length of Oregon in search of a new territory to call his own.

On Thursday morning, the wolf's GPS collar reported location data from the previous 24 hours. Wildlife officials said he is now in Siskiyou County, just a few days after he had been near Keno, Ore.

"It might just be sort of a drive-by experience or he could become a resident of Siskiyou County," said Mark Stopher, a special assistant to the director of the California Department of Fish and Game, which is now monitoring the wolf. "He's more like an interesting ghost right at the moment."

State officials don't yet have a plan to manage wolves, but an initial planning document is being prepared and is expected to be released in January.

Regardless, because OR7 is migrating, he is considered endangered under the federal Endangered Species Act. Disturbing him in any way could be considered a federal crime. As long as OR7 is in California, he will be jointly managed by the Department of Fish and Game and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

Stopher warned people not to look for the wolf, or approach it if they see it. But if anyone thinks they saw the wolf, Stopher urged them to report a detailed description of the animal to the Redding regional Fish and Game office.

Wild wolves were exterminated from the West in the early 1900s because they were viewed as a threat to livestock. Biologists now recognize that wolves play an important role in managing deer and elk herds and, in turn, the forests they live in.

The last wild wolf confirmed in California was killed by a trapper in Lassen County in 1924.

http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-01-lone-wolf-california.html

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California's lone gray wolf crosses state-line back to Oregon
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Re: Wolves have revitalized an entire ecosystem.
« Reply #15 on: Mar 15, 13, 11:23:25 PM »
As for the wolf/cattle conflict in WY--there is a group that is buying out the grazing leases on the adjacent NFS land and letting the wild bison do the grazing.  It allows the bison to leave the national park in winter (where they weren't naturally--they would migrate out ot lower elevations) and reduces the conflicts between ranchers and wolfs killing livestock.  I can't find the link right now but if I do, I'll post it here.

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Re: Wolves have revitalized an entire ecosystem.
« Reply #16 on: Mar 16, 13, 03:16:31 PM »
Seems many conservation organizations are purchasing grazing leases.

The Status of Range Reform

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taxpayers pay almost $500 million a year to keep the Forest Service and BLM grazing programs afloat

yikes! 

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Re: Wolves have revitalized an entire ecosystem.
« Reply #17 on: Mar 17, 13, 12:23:57 AM »
Oh, don't get me started about grazing subsidies.... :-X

Glad I'm  managing a district that has not had a grazing program since 1958....