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Need a Light Bulb?
« on: Jun 13, 11, 08:33:57 AM »

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Re: Need a Light Bulb?
« Reply #1 on: Jun 13, 11, 08:35:00 AM »

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Re: Need a Light Bulb?
« Reply #2 on: Jun 13, 11, 08:52:40 AM »
Sooooo what you're saying is, the 8, 100 watt bulbs in my kitchen drawer that I took out of my "Chandelier" because I didn't want my primary light source to cost more than a space heater to run (oil filled on low), are going to be worth a mint at the next garage sale I hold in a few years. . .

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Re: Need a Light Bulb?
« Reply #3 on: Jun 13, 11, 09:16:55 AM »
That pretty much sums it up. According to law enforcement personnel the black market in incandescent bulbs will make the war on drugs look like a children's dirt clod fight. ;)

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Re: Need a Light Bulb?
« Reply #4 on: Jun 13, 11, 09:20:00 AM »
To say nothing of the CFL bulbs being "Hazardous Waste" and the incandescent bulbs are not.
About as smart as making motor fuel out of food. :P

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Re: Need a Light Bulb?
« Reply #5 on: Jun 13, 11, 09:29:23 AM »
Don't worry--improvements L.E.D. technology (and production cost) is going to make CFs obsolete soon (though not soon enough). No ugly pallor. . . (and I don't mean the dim little lights for your Christmas trees. Bright, low watt bulbs.)

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Re: Need a Light Bulb?
« Reply #6 on: Jun 13, 11, 05:02:13 PM »
a few years ago I sent one of my employees to the store to get 100 lag bolts, he came back with 100 light blubs...

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Re: Need a Light Bulb?
« Reply #7 on: Jun 23, 11, 08:49:54 AM »
Tips For Consumers: 06/14/2011
FTC Materials Will Help Shoppers Understand New Light Bulb Labels Coming in 2012
Explain Lumens and the New Lighting Facts Label

The Federal Trade Commission is making two new resources available to consumers to help them shop for light bulbs in a market with increasingly more efficient options, including compact fluorescent bulbs (CFLs) and light-emitting diodes (LEDs), and new incandescent halogen bulbs. Beginning in 2012, consumers will see new packaging and labeling on most household bulbs that will help them save money by selecting the most efficient bulbs that fit their lighting needs.



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Re: Need a Light Bulb?
« Reply #8 on: Jun 27, 11, 08:37:20 PM »
What about the hanging lamps that have 6 or so of the tiny based, bent-tip or straight-tip little bulbs?  I have a few of those in my house. I can't imagine how ugly they would become if they had little curly bulbs in them.....

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Re: Need a Light Bulb?
« Reply #9 on: Dec 13, 13, 07:42:50 AM »
 NEW YORK (CNNMoney)
Light bulb manufacturers will cease making traditional 40 and 60-watt light bulbs -- the most popular in the country -- at the start of 2014.

This comes after the controversial phasing out of incandescent 75 and 100-watt light bulbs at the beginning of 2013.

In their place will be halogen bulbs, compact fluorescent bulbs, LED bulbs and high efficiency incandescents -- which are just regular incandescents that have the filament wrapped in gas. All are significantly more expensive than traditional light bulbs, but offer significant energy and costs savings over the long run. (Some specialty incandescents -- such as three-way bulbs -- will still be available.)

The end of old light bulbs will likely anger some consumers that are already faced with higher prices for a variety of goods. But it will also tick off tea party activists since the ban is the result of the final phase of government-mandated efficiency standards.

The rules were signed into law by President George W. Bush in 2007. They are designed to address gross inefficiencies with old light bulbs -- only 10% of the energy they use is converted into light, according to the Environmental Protection Agency, which has a handy fact sheet about the changes. The rest is wasted as heat.

But the rules have drawn fire from a number of circles -- mainly conservatives and libertarians who are unhappy about the government telling people what light bulbs they can use. They argue that if the new ones really are so good, people will buy them on their own without being forced to do so.

The Republican-controlled House first tried to overturn the law. When that failed, Congress prevented the Department of Energy from spending money to enforce the new rules.

But light bulb makers still have no plans to make the old bulbs after the first of the year, noting the law is still the law and that state attorneys general have the power to enforce it.

"We haven't seen any problems with respect to compliance," said Kyle Pitsor, vice president for government relations at the National Electrical Manufacturers Association, which represents 95% of all light bulb makers in the United States.

The manufacturers association was a big supporter of the new rules, arguing they headed off a patchwork of pending state laws that would have made the business highly complicated.

While there were initial grumblings from consumers when the ban was first announced, Pitsor said most of the concerns faded away as people become more familiar with the new light bulbs and realize they can still buy high efficiency incandescents.

Experts point out how much consumers can save with more efficient bulbs.

The high efficiency incandescents cost about $1.50 each, compared to 50 cents or so for the old bulbs. But they last twice as long, and use 28% less power.

With LEDs, the saving are even greater. While a 40-watt LED goes for about $7.50 -- a big drop from the $50 or so it cost just a few years back -- it uses 85% less energy than a traditional bulb.

Over the course of the year, a LED will consume about $2 in power under normal circumstances, said Mark Voykovik, national light bulb merchant for Home Depot (HD, Fortune 500). That compares to over $7 for an incandescent.

"In two years, you pay off that bulb," said Voykovik. And because LED bulbs are expected to last at least 20 years -- it's all savings for the next 18 years.

Moreover, LEDs are free from many of the issues that plagued compact fluorescent bulbs. They turn on instantly, do not contain mercury and give off a warm light similar to an incandescent.

People with big electricity bills seem to be taking notice. Home Depot recently released a map showing who is buying more efficient bulbs. While typically "green" places such as San Francisco, Seattle and Boston made the top 10, so did Atlanta, Orlando and Miami.

Fayetteville, Ark. and Waco, Texas were also hot markets, a fact Home Depot attributed to local rebate programs and the warm climate, where air conditioning drives up power bills.

Nationwide, about 12% of a home's power bill goes towards lighting, according to the EPA.

While LED sales are growing rapidly -- Voykovik said they doubled in each of the last two years at Home Depot -- most consumers still opt for incandescent bulbs. The percent of sales that are LEDs are in the single digits, he said.

The same was true at Lowe's (LOW, Fortune 500), where a spokeswoman said over 50% of sales were incandescent bulbs.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/12/13/news/economy/light-bulb-ban/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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Re: Need a Light Bulb?
« Reply #10 on: Dec 13, 13, 10:25:12 AM »
I noticed that a lot of LED bulbs are being used in tools and cars and the like. 

IMHO, i missed the bulbs of old.   They transmit light much stronger and much further than the available options.   Im older now so my eyes really need a strong lighting at night.  Though Im not a "Trekkie" (my wife is), the latest episodes showed strong beautiful "can do" lighting for the inside of the Enterprise.  I turn on the lights I have at home, and they are all very dim.   In order to get what I can function in, I need to turn on numerous lights....so wheres the saving now? 

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Re: Need a Light Bulb?
« Reply #11 on: Dec 13, 13, 08:08:38 PM »
Does anyone know if this includes the decorative light bulbs, such as the 40 or 60 watt ones with the little tips, that fit into chandelier type lamps?  Or the round ones for example, bathroom track lighting?  Or regular track lights which take the little flood lights?  And what about outdoor flood lights, such as for the motion sensor outdoor lights?  And did I just maybe describe most of the lighting in my house?  Maybe.....  :-\  Those coiled things would look terrible in most of my lamps.  I'm not sure what the LED ones look like.  Sigh! 

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Re: Need a Light Bulb?
« Reply #12 on: Dec 14, 13, 09:24:12 AM »
Good question ForestGal... I have some rather old lamps here that just take the kind of bulbs that I can hardly find anymore even at Home Depot. Possibly time to stock up a bit until it all sorts itself out. Watch the prices go up for incandescent lights.  And, I agree.. those coiled lights really would not work in some of my lamps.

Leftfield: Maybe you need new glasses?? Or to move your lights a bit?? I dunno. But, the lights on the Enterprise in those shoots could likely power a home for a year.

I'm all for energy/water savings. Lettuce take low-flow toilets as an example. Yes, you save water.. except you have to flush twice. Just sayin' . cheryl o7o


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Re: Need a Light Bulb?
« Reply #13 on: Dec 14, 13, 11:51:25 AM »
1=1 and 2=2 on a good day.  Do I hear 3?   ;D