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Offline BikingBrian

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Storing Ice Melt Pellets
« on: Mar 03, 05, 08:48:35 AM »
When I was younger, we used metal coffee cans to store sand and/or ice melt pellets.  What do people use nowadays?

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Re: Storing Ice Melt Pellets
« Reply #1 on: Mar 03, 05, 11:09:03 AM »
Today, we use plastic coffee cans.  We store our bulk ice stuff in a short metal trash can we bought at Mountain Hardware. 

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Re: Storing Ice Melt Pellets
« Reply #2 on: Mar 04, 05, 05:46:39 PM »
Old & clean 5 gallon plastic paint bucket

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Re: Storing Ice Melt Pellets
« Reply #3 on: Jan 03, 06, 08:06:53 AM »
I got a message from someone asking about icy walkways

2 main choices. Rock salt which will ruin things after while but works in a pinch or you can use ice melt. Mountain Hardware sells bags of ice melt. It's not cheap but better than a broken arm.

Another option I've heard is kitty litter or a little sand on top of the ice to help with traction.

Best bet is to buy a bag of ice melt and keep it on hand. I was out this morning spreading it around because it's so darn icy everywhere.

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Re: Storing Ice Melt Pellets
« Reply #4 on: Jan 03, 06, 09:43:02 AM »
Icy is right!  Don't try using one of your plastic snow shovels out there this morning. 

Ice melt does work well.  I try and use it sparingly on the places where we need it.

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Re: Storing Ice Melt Pellets
« Reply #5 on: Jan 03, 06, 09:46:03 AM »
Still sort of on topic. What is Ice Melt? Chemically I mean. Does it work like salt to change the freeze/thaw point?

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Re: Storing Ice Melt Pellets
« Reply #6 on: Jan 03, 06, 09:57:24 AM »
Here's information on the last 50lb bag I bought at Mountain Hardware:

http://www.nasalt.com/products/icemelters/safestep.htm


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Re: Storing Ice Melt Pellets
« Reply #8 on: Jan 03, 06, 10:14:19 AM »
I got Mt. Hardware's "Do It" brand, and it contains KCl (potassium chloride), NaCl (sodium chloride), NH2CONH2 (ammonium something), and C7O6H14 (can't remember my chemistry well enough to know what that is).  I got several small (20-lb. bags), as I can't lift a 50-lb. container.

As for storing it, I just leave it in the bag, and use a coffee can to spread it.  It doesn't clump just sitting there.

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Re: Storing Ice Melt Pellets
« Reply #9 on: Jan 03, 06, 10:16:50 AM »
The "Do It" brand is the same stuff made as a private label.

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Re: Storing Ice Melt Pellets
« Reply #10 on: Jan 03, 06, 12:18:28 PM »
Mountain Hardware currently has a pallet of the "Do-it" stuff out in front of the store.  They are the 20 pound bags on sale for only $6.29 each!  Better hurry....

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Re: Storing Ice Melt Pellets
« Reply #11 on: Jan 04, 06, 05:36:41 PM »
Storage of the ice melt pellets is best in a plasic container and in a dry place.

This ice melt pellet stuff is more or less a mixture of rock salt and other salts.  Rock salt is halite or sodium chloride.      The other main component, potassium chloride is chemically similar to sodium chloride.  Both sodium chloride and potassium chloride are hydroscopic (absorb water).  Rock salt is corrosive to rebar and steel and therefore a metal container is not a good choice.

Here is a link that gives so information or ice melting products:

http://www.facilitiesnet.com/ms/article.asp?id=2078

I am not sure why C7O6H14 is added.  It may be an anti-clumping agent.
By the way, urea's formula is NH2CONH2
and alpha-D-clucopyranoside is C7O6H14

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Re: Storing Ice Melt Pellets
« Reply #12 on: Jan 04, 06, 09:25:36 PM »
I would try and use something with mainly potassium chloride as it will not harm plants and such as much as straight salt. just my  :2cents:

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Re: Storing Ice Melt Pellets
« Reply #13 on: Jan 12, 06, 06:04:25 PM »
is it safe for dogs  ???

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Re: Storing Ice Melt Pellets
« Reply #14 on: Jan 12, 06, 10:17:47 PM »
is it safe for dogs  ???

The "Do-it" brand says safe for pets when used as directed.  I would not store it where a dog or other pet could get to it.  It is harmful if swallowed.

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Re: Storing Ice Melt Pellets
« Reply #15 on: Jan 12, 06, 10:30:06 PM »
is it safe for dogs  ???
Only use it on them if they are frozen solid. ;)

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Re: Storing Ice Melt Pellets
« Reply #16 on: Jan 12, 06, 10:55:39 PM »
no no no i mean if they eat it is it ok for them?

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Re: Storing Ice Melt Pellets
« Reply #17 on: Jan 12, 06, 11:01:32 PM »
no no no i mean if they eat it is it ok for them?


No, it is NOT ok to eat it.  It contains potassium chloride, which can have serious effects on the heart if consumed inappropriately.  The warning on the bag says "harmful if swallowed".

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Re: Storing Ice Melt Pellets
« Reply #18 on: Feb 08, 06, 07:57:20 PM »
Does anyone know if any of these will not trash the paint on the deck? We are looking at what to do with the deck in front. Every time we paint it, within a year it starts looking bad, but it is pine and there is too much paint to get off and replacing it with cedar or redwood or the new plastic type materials will be expensive.
Thanks,