Author Topic: Victor Valley deputies arrest suspect following vehicle/horseback pursuit (Read 52981 times)

Highlander · « **Reply #20 on:** Apr 12, 15, 01:18:47 AM »

Fair enough. Welcome home.

Jim Wilkins · « **Reply #21 on:** Apr 12, 15, 02:00:43 AM »

You threw down the gauntlet....who did you serve with and what model ships were you flying.

baseballfan · « **Reply #22 on:** Apr 12, 15, 04:04:23 AM »

We thank you so much for your service, sacrifice and loyalty to our country, Jim.

My oldest son is a Navy corpsman stationed at camp Pendleton, taking care of Marines. He will be deployed this week to Jordan for two months. While this is a security mission, it's a volatile time....

Highlander · « **Reply #23 on:** Apr 12, 15, 12:16:04 PM »

I you insist. I was with the 227th Air Assault Battalion 1st Cavalry Division and attached to Military Assistance Command. I flew a UH-1A & a UH-1M.
I also had interaction with the 'Yards, I have a nice elephant hair bracelet as a memento. Due to my connection to MAC, I have to leave it there.
Jim, my opinion of the SD is because of the recent past. I admired cops, that's why I wanted to be one. The deputies you have fond memories of are retired for the most part (I assume). I spoke with a SD Sgt. about this subject not to long ago & he told me that the candidate pool the SD has to choose from these days is waning.

SkierBob · « **Reply #24 on:** Apr 12, 15, 02:05:32 PM »

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Why is the FBI jumping on this one so quickly?

I think events like this push us further down the road to the federalization of local law enforcement.

I golfed with some LASD training officers yesterday and they said the video made them extremely uncomfortable. Interestingly they had more of an issue with how the other officers reacted and attributed the first tWo officers behavior to heat of the moment.

Had the suspect not fallen off the horse I think this chase would have continued for some time. You just can't keep up with a horse on foot, those officers had to be exhausted..

Cheapskate · « **Reply #25 on:** Apr 12, 15, 02:52:45 PM »

Mr. Wilkins, your original post ended with: these high profile cases would have different endings had the suspects cooperated.

Small but significant percentages have never cooperated, hence handcuffs and other "accessories"...and the extensive training that officers are (rightly) so proud of.

Law enforcement is uniquely dangerous and stressful and difficult, but nonetheless the people who do it chose it...and therefore chose the expectation of professionalism that comes with it. That professionalism and training is particularly important in the last few seconds...

Every time lapses in professionalism are seen, confidence erodes. Perhaps those who "have a biased opinion about law enforcement" are simply people who have experienced enough lapses...

These "lapses" are obviously going to be less hidden with the very rapid expansion in the number of cameras in the last few years. All public professionals must improve their behavior accordingly...sports (Ray Rice), politics (Anthony Weiner), etc.

As Supreme Court Justice Brandeis famously said: sunshine is the best disinfectant.

tcaarabians · « **Reply #26 on:** Apr 12, 15, 02:56:42 PM »

Yup, that little dig was aimed right at you Highlander. Jim, you were cute as a button back then. Thanks to all of you for your service.

Are there officers in local law enforcement that use excessive force? Yes, there are. And, they need to be weeded out. That said, I don't think the majority of officers use excessive force. I also think they have a nanosecond in many instances to make a judgment. Some officers lose their lives in that nanosecond.

I'm going to wait for the investigation results. cheryl o7o

tcaarabians · « **Reply #27 on:** Apr 13, 15, 03:01:27 PM »

Just read that the guy is out on bail as of last night. Lock up your horses. cheryl o7o

SkierBob · « **Reply #28 on:** Apr 13, 15, 04:07:49 PM »

I'm fairly sure the horse stealing sob will get more money then he's ever had in his life for taking that beating.

Highlander · « **Reply #29 on:** Apr 13, 15, 05:32:56 PM »

Pumping his fist yelling Ka-ching!!!!!! Oh I hate being a taxpayer.....

tcaarabians · « **Reply #30 on:** Apr 21, 15, 09:17:22 PM »

Just read in the LAT that SBD County settled with the guy for $650,000. So, there you go. His lawyers take somewhere between 30 or 40 percent. And, a 'bonna bing." This may be the fastest settlement in history.
And, I hope the guy takes his new-found wealth and moves somewhere else. cheryl o7o

ChattyCathy · « **Reply #31 on:** Apr 21, 15, 10:04:10 PM »

These deputies sure cost us taxpayers a crapload of money! Too bad they didn't let justice take its course. Hopefully it is a lesson learned.

My guess is that he'll blow through the money and be broke soon. Hopefully the person who owns the horse he stole will sue him - along with anyone else he has wronged.

He's a dog killer, so I hope he gets to spend lots of time in jail before reaping the rewards of his crime.

http://www.vvng.com/felon-arrested-for-shooting-a-dog/

Highlander · « **Reply #32 on:** Apr 21, 15, 11:27:54 PM »

Ah, the swift hand of justice.... or in this case, a swift well placed kick to the crotch. Dang, this stuff drives me nuts. The deputies had to know that there was a possibility of a helicopter other than the SD's above them...right? I absolutely love being right, however, I sure wish I had been dead wrong in my previous posts. Hopefully karma will kick in for this d-bag.

lagomorphmom · « **Reply #33 on:** Apr 22, 15, 12:18:36 AM »

Quote from: ChattyCathy on Apr 21, 15, 10:04:10 PM

Hopefully the person who owns the horse he stole will sue him

SkierBob · « **Reply #34 on:** Apr 22, 15, 03:33:11 PM »

tcaarabians · « **Reply #35 on:** Apr 22, 15, 04:02:48 PM »

I'd still like to know the outcome of the internal investigation and what actions the SB Sheriff's office will take regarding the officers involved. I'm guessing the internal investigation has progressed to the point that a fast settlement was the wise course. I also want to know about the FBI investigation. I figure that one will come in a few years from now. And, you're right Chatty C.. I hope the horse owner sues him too. And, I hope there is a way for the County to either sue him or retain part of the judgment for his prior deeds. And, I hope the County is not dropping the charges against him. Though, the settlement suggests that they are dropping charges.
Just phooey! cheryl o7o

Highlander · « **Reply #36 on:** Apr 23, 15, 12:54:52 AM »

A legal expert I heard on the radio (so it must be true!) this morning said that the County made a "good deal". The scumbag, by accepting the settlement has no other recourse, meaning he cannot re-sue (is that a word?) the County because of the "no wrongdoing" statement.
The internal investigation should be interesting if the County is able or willing to inform the public or just let it drag out & eventually try to sweep it under the rug. The FBI investigation should be interesting because there is no internal connection (?) to the SD to gum things up. I would like to see how this all plays out

Cheapskate · « **Reply #37 on:** Apr 23, 15, 01:24:19 AM »

We WILL see how it all plays out.

I think the quick settlement puts significant pressure on the 10 deputies placed on leave...now there is a definite price tag, $65,000 per deputy.

There probably will be some firings (but probably not 10...) The FBI investigation might result in federal charges for some, a la Stacy Koon and Teodor Briseno (funny how I remember those names from 1992...)

Nolena · « **Reply #38 on:** Apr 23, 15, 01:52:37 AM »

Should be interesting.
And, the horse's owners should sue his a$$ off.
Hope the horse is doing well.

Wrightwood · « **Reply #39 on:** Apr 28, 15, 02:09:05 AM »