1 GB FIBER Coming Soon to Wrightwood

[lzuber]

Absolutely.  Not a problem.

[lzuber]

Hi, we haven't been able to inspect anything, but we should be ok.  We will get a look as soon as they lift the evacuation.  Our equipment is safe so that's very good news.  We will have the tools we need to get back to work.  We can't wait to get back to work! 

[Psalm40]

I like the option of high speed Internet but  $70 a month is a too much for us. Can there be a happy medium between 1 GB and Frontiers speed and price?

[Pbrady]

I like the option of high speed Internet but  $70 a month is a too much for us. Can there be a happy medium between 1 GB and Frontiers speed and price?

2-year contract at 39.99 for the first year?

[snwbnny]

I like the option of high speed Internet but  $70 a month is a too much for us. Can there be a happy medium between 1 GB and Frontiers speed and price?

2-year contract at 39.99 for the first year?

We're in the same boat. $70 a month is too high for our budget. The $40 for the first year looks ok but then we're stuck with $65 after that. Can't afford it. Maybe when everyone switches, my DSL will get faster  .

[KW]

I just checked, and Google Fiber for residential plans is running $70 in Provo, UT: https://fiber.google.com/cities/provo/plans/

Another company called Sonic up north has a price of $69.95 per month. I don't know what you all are paying for internet now, but my residential plan with Frontier is about $50 per month. And with this higher speed coming, I hope to get rid of Direct TV and choose my own viewing options from other sources. That will save me a lot of money --

[lwt42]

We're in the same boat. $70 a month is too high for our budget. The $40 for the first year looks ok but then we're stuck with $65 after that. Can't afford it. Maybe when everyone switches, my DSL will get faster  .

Do you pay for TV?

Satellite or Cable is expensive, IMO.  I pay about $10/month for Netflix, and $99/year for Amazon Prime.  I get KABC free through my Roku, and am putting together a minimal computer so I can stream other channels to my TV.

Don't mind paying a bit more for 'net because I'm not paying more than $50 for satellite or cable.

[snwbnny]

My DSL is $40 and my Directv is $45 (after all the fees). I think those are pretty good, considering I have gotten good service from both. I already "splurge" on my TV after trying other options in the past. The faster internet speeds are not important enough for me to be paying that much more. Maybe in a few years when the budget isn't so tight. But for now, $70/mo doesn't work for us (neither does a 2 yr commitment).

I'm glad everyone has a new option for internet, its about time. Competition is good for the consumer. But some of us will have to stick with the cheaper option. I'm not saying its happening here but there have been a few times now that I've seen people criticized online for thinking $70/mo is high. For some of us, it IS just too high.

[lwt42]

My DSL is $40 and my Directv is $45 (after all the fees). I think those are pretty good, considering I have gotten good service from both. I already "splurge" on my TV after trying other options in the past. The faster internet speeds are not important enough for me to be paying that much more. Maybe in a few years when the budget isn't so tight. But for now, $70/mo doesn't work for us (neither does a 2 yr commitment).

I'm glad everyone has a new option for internet, its about time. Competition is good for the consumer. But some of us will have to stick with the cheaper option. I'm not saying its happening here but there have been a few times now that I've seen people criticized online for thinking $70/mo is high. For some of us, it IS just too high.

For me, $45 for TV is too high, especially since $45 won't buy the channels that cover my sport.

I'm not being critical of anyone, just that we have different priorities.

For UIA, this is a pretty expensive project.  As others have suggested, $70 is about where they need to be.

[Cheapskate]

I agree...like sports?  DirecTV makes it quite expensive, you need this extra package and that. The price crept from $100 to $140 per month in two years.

I cut that cord 18 mos ago.  In the aggregate, it's cheaper (and more fun) to visit a sports bar.  :-)

So $70/mo, creative streaming, downgrading my smartphone data plan...all that seems real attractive.

[Daniel.Rorie]

I also recently disconnected my DTV.

I payed around $100 a month for DTV and DSL together. (3megs!) I realized that I never really watched anything worth its salt on tv and relied more on netflix/amazon and the others for quality content and less commercials.

Everything is moving to the internet anyway. The Superbowl has been streamed for years now, the Olympic events were all streamed, and you could watch any sport you wanted to. Not just the ones on tv. - Not to mention NBC's terrible job this year - As time goes by, more and more programs will be easily available on the internet.

Cable/Satellite just isn't worth it. Too many commercials, too many low quality shows and re-runs. Cut the cord, put the money towards something better.

[Joe Schmoe]

Money makes the machine run.  If you don't input money into the machines, the machines don't output things for you to consume.  When people, en masse, stop paying for TV content you'll get lower quality and lower amounts of content.  Like music, like roads, like teachers...like all things.  Something to keep in mind before you decide to cancel.

[onhands]

The market is supposed to bend to the will of the populace, not the other way around, otherwise we aren't talking about capitalism any more.

Also, content delivery does not equal content production.  If the content delivery was satisfying and a good value, then people would be happy to purchase it; in this case it is not, and you think that people maybe ought to prop up this dying behemoth who refuses to adjust and give people appropriate value for their money.  The reason that they refuse to change is that communications media providers have had quasi-monopolies in their respective areas for far to long, and have gotten their way for far to long, and have even brainwashed people into thinking that if they don't get their way then they sky might fall.

DishTV is one entity, which makes it easy for them to change, unlike trying to change people's desire to get value from their hard earned money.  Dish could lower their prices (instead of price hikes), provide people just the channels they want without making them pay for a bunch they don't care about, or maybe even step up their customer service game; any of these things would get a far better response then trying to convince people that they HAVE to purchase their services regardless of the price, or the content will dry up.

If this is what it takes to enact market change, then maybe the content should dry up, it's how the free market works.

[Joe Schmoe]

Dish could lower their prices (instead of price hikes),

Reduced net income.

provide people just the channels they want without making them pay for a bunch they don't care about

Reduced net income.

step up their customer service game

Increased overhead costs.

And given that to a large extent "the market" is made up of the populace none of this ends well for us as a whole, as a country.  I don't have to pigeon hole the conversation into fear-activation words like capitalism vs. communism or socialism, but I do know that if I don't pay my taxes I don't get my infrastructure.  If everyone seeks to pay little or nothing, they will get little or nothing in return.  Today's stale music industry is a great example.  Keep the machine running.

[Cheapskate]

[lwt42]

DishTV is one entity, which makes it easy for them to change, unlike trying to change people's desire to get value from their hard earned money.  Dish could lower their prices (instead of price hikes), provide people just the channels they want without making them pay for a bunch they don't care about, or maybe even step up their customer service game; any of these things would get a far better response then trying to convince people that they HAVE to purchase their services regardless of the price, or the content will dry up.

Actually, they can't just sell people the channels they want.

DISH (or Charter, or DirectTV) buys content from the providers.

The provider (let's say Disney, who owns ABC, ESPN, and several others) and and DishTV negotiate: Dish says "we'd like to buy these channels.  The Disney channel is a biggie, so we'll pay $0.25 per viewer, and put it in our top tier).  Disney says "$0.12, and it goes in the bottom tier" because there are more viewers.  Dish says "well, okay" and then Disney says "and we want you to carry our other 12 channels, also in the bottom tier, at $0.03 each." Dish ends up paying $0.50/viewer, and their customer gets a bunch of junk channels that they don't want.

Most of the other providers cave before a big channel goes dark.  DishTV usually fights, and that's why channels go dark on Dish.

The numbers are fictitious, but that's the basic idea: ABC or NBC/Universal, or whoever owns a given channel loves to bundle because more subscribers means more money.  The cable/satellite provider does the best they can.

As cable and satellite subscriptions decline, I think that model will break down.  It's already starting.

[onhands]

And given that to a large extent "the market" is made up of the populace none of this ends well for us as a whole, as a country.  I don't have to pigeon hole the conversation into fear-activation words like capitalism vs. communism or socialism, but I do know that if I don't pay my taxes I don't get my infrastructure.  If everyone seeks to pay little or nothing, they will get little or nothing in return.  Today's stale music industry is a great example.  Keep the machine running.

I apologize if I came off as aggressive.  100% with you on the taxes; seems like a completely different situation to me, however.

Also, I kind of like a lot of the music these days.

[Joe Schmoe]

As cable and satellite subscriptions decline, I think that model will break down.  It's already starting.

The money has to keep flowing.  There will always be someone seeking to bundle and add-on any and everything.  It will just be distributed over the internet where, eventually, they will still seek to charge you fees (my tax analogy) and since we're heavy into the whole capitalism thing they will be, by nature, ever-increasing fees.  Delivering it over the web will be less efficient vs. set top boxes, but I'm wandering close to a conflict of interest on the topic so I'll end there.

I apologize if I came off as aggressive.  100% with you on the taxes; seems like a completely different situation to me, however.

Also, I kind of like a lot of the music these days.

No apology necessary!  It's good food for thought.  I'm the aggressive one here since the topic hits home for me .  The music isn't bad, there's just a lot less diversity, and there's a lot less of it being created and distributed - we are spending less on it.  Nowadays I can buy the two best songs on an album for $2-$2.50.  The rest of the album was just bundled in there with the good stuff.  But since I didn't give them $15 for the whole album that's a huge cut out of the revenue.  The music company, their employees, the musicians all end up with less, so we get less from them in return.

Sorry to drag the conversation so far off topic.  Looking forward to the day you folks get to experience the faster speeds...especially after having you be neglected by Verizon for so long.

[lwt42]

The money has to keep flowing.  There will always be someone seeking to bundle and add-on any and everything.  It will just be distributed over the internet where, eventually, they will still seek to charge you fees (my tax analogy) and since we're heavy into the whole capitalism thing they will be, by nature, ever-increasing fees.  Delivering it over the web will be less efficient vs. set top boxes, but I'm wandering close to a conflict of interest on the topic so I'll end there.

Yes, and as a consumer, I can accept the bundle, or decide that I don't need "Discovery" enough to also pay for OWN, Velocity, etc. that Discovery forces DishTV (or whoever) into carrying -- and the other bundles that are forced into the highest tier I'm willing to buy.

Since pulling the plug a couple of years ago, that "highest tier" is down to about $20.  $30 if I can get ESPN3 and NBCSN(even that's high, since I won't watch it 9 months out the year).  I'd probably go $30 just for TSN, but I can't seem to get it in the U.S.

[spellbinder]

So is there any word on the new time frame for installations?
I'm having a rough time with no Internet