Wrightwood CSD General Discussion

[tlc]

The PPHCSD isthe water department (you can pay your bill on their website) and would respond just as they do in Wrightwood from Golden State Water when folks have an issue.

[Cheapskate]

The PPHCSD isthe water department (you can pay your bill on their website) and would respond just as they do in Wrightwood from Golden State Water when folks have an issue.

And the relevance of this is?  The Wrightwood CSD does not include water, Golden State will continue to be our water company.

It isn't an added layer of bureaucracy.. it's  removing the far away layer of government and replacing it with one closer to home."

I'll repeat myself:

Respectfully, that is only true if the jobs of the people administering the "far away layer" are eliminated.  I have my doubts about that (does anyone actually know?).  I understand that having a CSD might have some benefits, but let's not deceive ourselves.

[Wrightwood]

[treefrog]

We will be holding informational presentations by experts on Community Service Districts here in Wrightwood. Please attend!

January 17th, 5PM, Wrightwood Community Building, presentation by SBC LAFCO EO Kathleen Rollings-McDonald. Informal Meet and Greet with candidates.

January 21, 2PM, Wrightwood Community Building, presentation by Helendale CSD General Manager Kimberly Cox. Informal Meet and Greet with candidates.

[treefrog]

Saturday, January 21st, CSD Info Meeting is canceled due to impending storm.

[Chuck]

[thehallmarks]

[thehallmarks]

[Nolena]

It would have been good to get candidate statements and election information before the arrival of absentee ballots. I voted last week.

[lynnc]

They were included in the WWPOA newsletter that came out the end of January.

[treefrog]

[GirlFarmer]

So LA County gets roped in by actions taken by San Bernardino County Supervisors, not the representation I embrace.  If there's all this extra money floating around for programs, how about a movement to give it back?  People are always looking for more ways to spend tax dollars, or fees.

[GirlFarmer]

If one were so inclined to challenge the election results, what jurisdiction would that be filed in.  I suspect both even though the ballot takes place in San Bernardino County.  Who is charged with defending an action?  Does anyone know the timeframe that this could be accomplished in?  I have no issue with Supervisors changing rules to skirt an issue, happens all the time.  You usually have to just follow the money train to see where they are beholden.  However, this one crosses County lines and forces an issue without fair input from those residents on the other side of the line.  Makes us second class citizens being bullied by our larger neighbor.

[CaptureCom]

[MojaveSidecar]

A "CON" from a long time WWPOA member about the voting process.....


Good morning, Randy.
 
My wife and I have been property owners in Wrightwood for more than 30 years.  We pay property taxes and other related local fees.  We've been members of the Wrightwood Property Owners Association for almost all of those 30 years.  But we are not full-time residents.  As weekenders, though, we shop locally and pay sales tax on items we purchase in town.  But I think it stinks (and I think that's the most appropriate word to use) that voting on the CSD is only for those residents who are registered voters in Wrightwood.  The rest of us, it would appear, are second-class citizens who are prohibited from voting on an item that will certainly affect us.  It smacks me as taxation without representation.  I'd be interested in knowing how many Wrightwood homeowners live "down the hill" and will be excluded from participating in a democratic process.  Surely this vote could have been extended to all residents through the county's assessor's office rather than the Registrar of Voters.  I thought the WWPOA was a voice for ALL property owners.
 
Sincerely, Norm.

[MojaveSidecar]

Another potentially CON issue received by the WWPOA....

Another CON I have received has to do with the perceived powers of the CSD by the WW community.

Example.... who will be in charge of county road repair?    is that a CSD issue? or is it a CSA 56 MAC issue... but as part of the CSD approval process, CSA 56 and the associated MAC are being dissolved.... so if no CSA... then NO MAC so how does WW deal with County Roads, SBC FIre, SO,   Special Districts etc.?

Will the County think that previous MAC issues are now a CSD issue?

Did we add an extra layer of government? Will access on non CSD issues to the County Supervisors office be less accessible?

TIA
Randy

[treefrog]

I have no issue with Supervisors changing rules to skirt an issue, happens all the time.  You usually have to just follow the money train to see where they are beholden.  However, this one crosses County lines and forces an issue without fair input from those residents on the other side of the line.  Makes us second class citizens being bullied by our larger neighbor.

Girl Farmer:

The SB County Supervisor did not skirt any issues by supporting the resolution, this was the exact protocol to be taken if the Supervisor chose to support the initiative. Your Supervisor, Supervisor Antonovich (from 2016), supported the initiative also. His letter of support is public record. This is documented in the LAFCO staff report and is available on the LAFCO site or at wrightwoodcsd.org.

Your last point "being bullied by our larger neighbor"... none of your tax dollars, as a LA County resident, will go to the CSD. You are going to be given the services without contributing a penny of your tax dollars. I'm not sure how that could be viewed as "being bullied" when you will be given services for free. You can even choose not to use those services, up to you.

You might want to look at your current property tax bill and check out how your current park and rec taxes, none of which will go to the CSD, are currently going to a bond in LA County which pays for parks that aren't anywhere near Wrightwood, and most likely you will never use. There is a real injustice if you believe that your tax dollars should go directly to services that you use rather than to other people.

[GirlFarmer]

OK, I'll just ask.  Was it done this way in order to facilitate a simple majority vote?

[be8dad]

To be honest, have not been to any of the meetings, because i thought this was a good idea from the start. But i have kept up on the information provided for us to vote on. As a permanent resident, I feel having a local person that could have an interest/say-so on our wonderful little community is a good thing. I'll have to agree with CaptureCom, there is enough info out there for us to make an informed decision ... And we actually have some concerned locals that want to run for the position. Go Wrightwood ...

[alfa63]

A "CON" from a long time WWPOA member about the voting process.....


Good morning, Randy.
 
My wife and I have been property owners in Wrightwood for more than 30 years.  We pay property taxes and other related local fees.  We've been members of the Wrightwood Property Owners Association for almost all of those 30 years.  But we are not full-time residents.  As weekenders, though, we shop locally and pay sales tax on items we purchase in town.  But I think it stinks (and I think that's the most appropriate word to use) that voting on the CSD is only for those residents who are registered voters in Wrightwood.  The rest of us, it would appear, are second-class citizens who are prohibited from voting on an item that will certainly affect us.  It smacks me as taxation without representation.  I'd be interested in knowing how many Wrightwood homeowners live "down the hill" and will be excluded from participating in a democratic process.  Surely this vote could have been extended to all residents through the county's assessor's office rather than the Registrar of Voters.  I thought the WWPOA was a voice for ALL property owners.
 
Sincerely, Norm.

Although I have not had a house up in WW as long as you, I'm with you about being excluded.  Thanks for putting forth a voice for the weekenders.

Steve