Author Topic: To rectify County Fire budget, supervisors eye parcel tax - FP-5 (Read 338782 times)

Wrightwood · « **Reply #160 on:** Oct 11, 18, 04:06:51 PM »

Just received this by email and includes Supervisors phone numbers

A new website has been created (not by me) on October 10, 2018:

www.sbcfireprotest.org

This website contains the Protest Form itself as well as a Legal Brief prepared by someone anticipating a potential lawsuit, and also Letters of Protest.

Spread the word, people must call the supervisors, especially Hagman (4th District), at 909-465-5265. Rutherford # 909-387-4833, Lovingood # 909-387-4830.

Supervisors Rutherford and Lovingood voted against this. Rutherford stated she felt it should be a vote of the people. I agree!

Perhaps Supervisor Hagman can be persuaded to changed his vote once he hears how wrong we believe the process to be, regardless of what one feels about the fire department or the amount.

lwt42 · « **Reply #161 on:** Oct 11, 18, 07:06:41 PM »

Oops. Nevermind.

Wrightwood · « **Reply #162 on:** Oct 11, 18, 10:46:47 PM »

Wrightwood · « **Reply #163 on:** Oct 11, 18, 10:58:21 PM »

Additional information is available at www.youturnradio.com episodes 19 through 24

https://www.youturnradio.com/2018/09/02/episode-19-county-fire-i-protest-part-1-podcast/
https://www.youturnradio.com/2018/09/09/episode-20-county-fire-i-protest-part-2-podcast/
https://www.youturnradio.com/2018/09/16/episode-21-the-out-of-control-fire-at-county-fire-podcast/
https://www.youturnradio.com/2018/09/23/episode-22-how-an-expanded-fire-zone-effected-my-business-podcast/
https://www.youturnradio.com/2018/09/30/episode-23-county-fire-solution-part-podcast/
https://www.youturnradio.com/2018/10/07/episode-24-county-fire-solution-part-2-podcast/

tcaarabians · « **Reply #164 on:** Oct 12, 18, 03:11:38 PM »

I've given this fee a lot of thought. I am not going to send in a protest vote. I agree with the Red Brennan group that the vote is being held in a way that isn't in compliance with state law.
I do not agree with them when they say "... runaway fire spending... ." My two cents. Cheryl o7o

Wrightwood · « **Reply #165 on:** Oct 13, 18, 11:12:23 AM »

tcaarabians · « **Reply #166 on:** Oct 13, 18, 12:24:08 PM »

I wonder why the suit didn't also name the Fire District??

Wrightwood · « **Reply #167 on:** Oct 13, 18, 12:35:21 PM »

Jim Wilkins · « **Reply #168 on:** Oct 13, 18, 01:07:45 PM »

Quote from: tcaarabians on Oct 12, 18, 03:11:38 PM

I've given this fee a lot of thought. I am not going to send in a protest vote. I agree with the Red Brennan group that the vote is being held in a way that isn't in compliance with state law.
I do not agree with them when they say "... runaway fire spending... ." My two cents. Cheryl o7o

Trying to figure out how you respond to a quarter million emergencies a year and (demand growing every year) in the largest contiguous county in the nation .....cheaply.

tcaarabians · « **Reply #169 on:** Oct 13, 18, 01:24:07 PM »

The writ of mandate in Austin v Fire is an interesting read and pretty much addresses the issues we've raised in this thread. I'm still not going to send in my protest vote. And, if it goes to a 2/3 ballot vote I will vote yes. It will likely not pass if that happens. We will then be looking at 'what next?" and debating that.

Jim - You're right. With a few exceptions, I thought the Fire budget was reasonable. I'm not going to list those exceptions because I prefer to find out why those costs seem so high before I make that assertion.

Cheryl o7o

Cheapskate · « **Reply #170 on:** Oct 13, 18, 05:31:13 PM »

Cheaply? CA residents pay among the highest taxes in ALL areas except property. So, because Prop 13 fixes that particular tax, we should feel "guilty", "undertaxed"?

Consider perhaps that we are taxed sufficiently, and it's the gov't and their employees that need to make the tough choices, not the public at large.

Jim Wilkins · « **Reply #171 on:** Oct 13, 18, 07:20:03 PM »

Not what I said. Sorry to confuse. Point was....if you provide services which require certain levels of staffing and response time and have sophisticated training and equipment (both of which are expensive) and you do it over a 19,000 square mile area....it is expensive by it's very nature. I only pay taxes on three properties here in Wrightwood so I am not impacted like some with many more. I also have a property that is lower because of Prop 13. I voted for it.

It is expensive to have quality...provided around the clock and on demand.

Wrightwood · « **Reply #172 on:** Oct 16, 18, 09:29:54 AM »

SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING

Tuesday, October 16, 2018
http://www.sbcounty.gov/Main/Pages/ViewMeetings.aspx

Supporting Materials Acting as the governing body of the San Bernardino County Fire Protection District:

Conduct a public hearing regarding the expansion of the Service Zone FP-5.
Receive report on tabulation of protests.
Find that the expansion of Service Zone FP-5 is exempt under the California Environmental Quality Act pursuant to Title 14 California Code of Regulations Sections 15061(b)(3), 15273(a) and 15320 and direct the Clerk of the Board to file and post a Notice of Exemption.
In the event that the report on the tabulation of protests indicate that the threshold for calling for an election has not been met pursuant to the protest procedures adopted by the Board, adopt the Resolution to expand the boundaries of the Service Zone FP-5.

http://cob-sire.sbcounty.gov/sirepub/view.aspx?cabinet=published_meetings&fileid=2312331
http://cob-sire.sbcounty.gov/sirepub/view.aspx?cabinet=published_meetings&fileid=2312332
http://cob-sire.sbcounty.gov/sirepub/view.aspx?cabinet=published_meetings&fileid=2312333

Bob C · « **Reply #173 on:** Oct 16, 18, 09:34:00 AM »

I can't see anything... either they haven't started, or they're still in closed session or they aren't broadcasting it as of 0933

Wrightwood · « **Reply #174 on:** Oct 16, 18, 09:50:45 AM »

Wrightwood · « **Reply #175 on:** Oct 16, 18, 12:36:39 PM »

The FP-5 portion of the meeting is now on a lunch break until 1pm

Bob C · « **Reply #176 on:** Oct 16, 18, 01:52:38 PM »

OMG.. these meetings are SOOOOO long. Must. Keep. Eyes. Open

Wrightwood · « **Reply #177 on:** Oct 16, 18, 03:56:07 PM »

Public comments still going

Wrightwood · « **Reply #178 on:** Oct 16, 18, 04:15:00 PM »

Last 10 public comments

Wrightwood · « **Reply #179 on:** Oct 16, 18, 04:29:43 PM »

Last public comment being made.

Hearing closed. Brief recess while counting the protest forms turned in today.