Local Hunting

[Wildman]

Trust me....no game warden spoke with them.  If you knew just how few wardens there are available for enforcement, you would be shocked.  They are spread very thin.

[MazzyStar]

My x-Father In Law was a Game Warden in Long Beach in the 80's and 90's before he was killed (by his wife - not on the job).

[wwpt]

    I mailed off a question to the DFG info office and asked for their opinion on this.

[K9luvr]

Somebody needs to tell these good ol' boys that they bought a hunting licence, not a killing licence.... 

[SteelCommuter]

BTW, for those on this thread who have strong feelings about the absurdity of the modern trophy hunter - who gets his coffee from Starbucks, not a battered pot - you may want to read the very very funny novel Sick Puppy by Carl Hiaasen.  I laughed so hard at that book my lung came out.  My wife and my mom both loved the book, as well.  I couldn't recommend it enough.

For the record, I appreciate the effort by some to keep a skill like true hunting alive , when it is essentially useless in regions with industrialized food production, etc.  The description of the incident mentioned in this thread as Nintendo could not be more aptly named, and is more of a gadget game than anything else.  I never ever see those people out in the woods in the off-season, either, or hiking instead of driving when there is a choice.

[K9luvr]

I LOVED that book!!!!  A friend bought it and at first I thought I don't know....  But once I started it--it was great 

Plus--it really does make you think. 

[wwpt]

 Here's the reply I recieved promptly from The Long Beach Field offfice of DFG.
_______________________________________

  Using dogs is a legal means to take bears, but the use of satellite
global positioning system collars is specifically prohibited by
Subsection 265(d)(2) of Title 14, California Code of Regulations. I'll
be sure our Enforcement Branch gets a copy of your e-mail. There may be
follow-up on this.

Thanks for letting us know.

>>> "XXXXXX@hotmail.com> 4/8/2006 10:24:18 AM >>>

I'm reprinting a letter to the WW forum and was interested in your
opinion of this type of hunting and if it is legal. 
A Rancher friend was telling me of an encounter she had out by N4 and
Largo Vista with some Bear Hunters last fall...I couldn't believe it.

   They had a big pick-up with 6 dog kennels in the back. They would
send 1 dog out at a time to find, then track a bear. The dogs had
satellite posistioning collars on. One would run down the bear until
exhausted...then another fresh dog would be put on the trail. 
   
      They would track the "hunt" from the cab of the pick-up with a
device like a radar screen and when the activity  came to a
halt...meaning the bear was exhausted and treed...The men would go in
and shoot it. They had one bear in their truck already. And one lost
dog.
   
   She told them they weren't hunters...They were playing Nintendo. 
How one sided...The bears didn't stand a chance.
 
here's a link to the whole thread.
 http://www.wrightwoodcalif.com/forum/index.php/topic,4059.30.html
   Thanks,   XXXXXXX

[wwpt]

[Surfer_Dude]

Thanks for all the work WWPT, Big K to you.  If anyone wants to video tape these hunters I'll bet they will be back at the same spots first day of hunting season. We probably could get some kind of enforcement on them, and at least give the bears their sporting chance.  If these hunters are breaking one law, they are probably breaking a few more.  I don't think I would ever shoot a bear for sport but this is sad, it ruins the sport for real hunters. 

[Nolena]

Pictures would be good. Lots of them. Including the license plate.

"The Monkeywrench Gang"  That's a good book. 

[Hillbillies]

 

Just some good ol boys.....
Who don't play by the rules....

sittin' in their truck playin video huntin' like a couple o fools...

Makin' their waaaay the only way they know how....
heard em' say the other day they're gonna go hunt for a cow...

Just some good ol boys....
Cheatin' without no care....

I hope these two dumb a$$es get eatin' by a big mean ol bear....

 

[wwpt]

[TheSandman]

hillbilly:

do you have clothes on when you write your songs?

[wwpt]

 
  Quote:  We probably could get some kind of enforcement on them, and at least give the bears their sporting chance.  If these hunters are breaking one law, they are probably breaking a few more.  I don't think I would ever shoot a bear for sport but this is sad..
 
  Maybe we could put the collars on them, and then give a ten minute head start, and show them what they are doing to others...

[free2bee]

Just got back from a visit to Grand Canyon. Many times we were reminded of our favorite Edward Abbey quote. He is depicting the "average visitor" to our natural wonders found in the Parks who breathlessly run up to the nearest ranger and ask...... "Where- is -the -restroom- where -is -the -coke -machine -and -how -long- does -it take -to -see -this -place?"

[TheSandman]

while standing at the edge of the grand canyon, a family walked up, stood there about ten seconds and said in a disgusted tone, "Is that all there is."

[Nolena]

And then there's the rednecks' one time Grand Canyon experience:

"Hey, Bubba! Watch thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis!"

[K9luvr]

There is a Flinstones segment where the family goes on vacation.  Fred and Barney are standing by this creek about the size of Swarthout creek.  Fred says to Barney--gee it doesn't look so great to me (or something to that affect) and Barney replies, "hey, give it a couple of million years and I bet it will really be something." 

[wwpt]

[wwpt]

 
   Here's a link showing some animal activists out doing their work...Sandman..he kinda looks like you?
 
 
     http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=635398409&n=2