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Feds give $1 Billion to Fix Radio Problems
« on: Jul 18, 07, 10:00:47 PM »
Feds give $1 Billion to Fix Radio Problems
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By DEVLIN BARRETT
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON --

The government announced Wednesday it will distribute nearly $1 billion to states and cities to fix communications problems that still plague police and fire departments six years after the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

The biggest state recipients are California with $94 million, Texas with $65 million, and New York with $61 million.

In certain states, chunks will be specifically set aside for major cities: New York City will get $34.8 million and the Los Angeles/Long Beach area was awarded $22.3 million. Other cities getting specific amounts were: San Francisco Bay area, $14.5 million; Chicago, $16.2 million; Houston, $14.6 million; Jersey City-Newark, $17.5 million; and Washington, $11.9 million.

A total of $968 million for interoperable communications grants was announced Wednesday by the heads of the departments of Homeland Security and Commerce, after a review earlier this year found that of 75 major U.S. cities, only six received a top grade in emergency communications.

The money, said Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez, will answer "the urgent need for firefighters, police, and other first responders to be able to communicate effectively with one another."

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the money should get the entire country up to a basic standard of effective emergency communication by 2009 - but only if the local authorities coordinate with each other and avoid turf fights.

"That's not something the federal government can make people do," said Chertoff. "We can put the tools on the table, but the training and the willpower to use the tools has to rest with state and local officials."

Congress provided the money in a 2005 bill, seeking to address lingering radio problems exposed when hijacked airliners struck the World Trade Center in New York in 2001.

In that chaotic, fast-moving crisis, many firefighters could not hear important radio messages - including orders to evacuate before the second World Trade Center tower collapsed. Police officers' radios generally worked better, but they had little effective communication with firefighters.

Such flaws were evident again in 2005 when Hurricane Katrina knocked out many local rescue workers' communications systems.

Since then, Chertoff and others have insisted that agencies need to end any so-called "battle of the badge" rivalries that historically exist between some departments, and, where needed, adopt new technology to handle a natural or man-made disaster.

"It's not necessarily the case that everybody's got to run out and buy new equipment," said Chertoff.

Rep. Peter King, an occasional critic of Homeland Security's grant decisions, said that in this case "the department is moving in the right direction, but obviously New York still needs more."

In January, homeland security officials found that more than 60 percent of the communities studied had the ability to talk to each other during a crisis, but only one in five showed "seamless" use of equipment needed to also communicate with state and federal authorities.
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Re: Feds give $1 Billion to Fix Radio Problems
« Reply #1 on: Jul 18, 07, 10:36:49 PM »
This Interoperability problem is very old news that is just now getting some money thrown at it.
Anyone who wants to keep up with this issue should subscribe (for free) to MRT - Mobile Radio Technology

http://subscribe.mrtmag.com/subscribe.cfm?tc=NNWEB

One approach that is now gaining momentum is ROIP. Look familiar ? like VOIP. It's actually
a technology invented by Hams many years. IRLP.

IRLP = Internet Radio Linking Protocal was invented by Amateurs to connect radios via the internet.
VOIP = Voice Over Internet Protocal was invented later to use the internet as a telephone gateway.
ROIP = Radio over Internet Protocal is now being discussed as a very sensible solution to provding communication paths for departments with differing radio technologies.

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Re: Feds give $1 Billion to Fix Radio Problems
« Reply #2 on: Jul 18, 07, 10:49:08 PM »
Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the money should get the entire country up to a basic standard of effective emergency communication by 2009 - but only if the local authorities coordinate with each other and avoid turf fights.


This line jumped out at me. When was the last time governmental agencies were able to agree on anything?

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Re: Feds give $1 Billion to Fix Radio Problems
« Reply #3 on: Jul 18, 07, 11:20:00 PM »
Well, another interesting facet of this is that California has had a solution for this in place for MANY years.
Since the 70's in fact. It's called CLEMARS and it stands for California Law Enforcement Mutual Aid Radio System. It's a frequency availabale to all Law Enforcement Agencies so if Pasadena is pursuing a suspect into Sierra Madre both agencies can talk to each other on CLEMARS. A few years ago the same thing was implemented for fire agencies. It's FIREMARS. There is also CALCORD, a mobile only on ground channel. So California has been ahead of the curve on this for years.

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Re: Feds give $1 Billion to Fix Radio Problems
« Reply #4 on: Jul 19, 07, 04:41:09 PM »
Interestingly, as different cities and agencies move to newer Trunking and Digital Radio systems, they seem to have forgotten about the CLEMARS capability.  It doesn't help that there are no fewer than 13 CLEMARS frequencies (VHF LO, High, UHF 400 MHz and 800 MHz) according the Office of Emergency Systems (OES), ranging from 39.460 to 868.5125.

This past weekend our "Air 100", the PD chopper here in Burbank was trying to talk with L.A.P.D. K9 units who were envolved in a search on the outskirts of Burbank.  They tried for 10 minutes to find a CLEMARS frequency they were both capible of using.  They never did.  They had to relay conversations via the dispatchers and phone lines.   :brickwall:

Fire Departments are a little better prepared as ALL are capable of the WHITE and/or FIREMARS frequencies:

White Fire & FIREMARS

154.2800 - White Fire 1
154.2650 - White Fire 2
154.2950 - White Fire 3
868.9875 - FIREMARS
866.9125 - FIREMARS 2