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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #400 on: Aug 19, 16, 05:21:38 PM »
Just a thought on Sarajevo's comment about paying 'hotel fees.'  I would check with my insurance co. to see if that was covered in my homeowner's policy.
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My friends renters insurance covered her hotel.  Of course she wants to come home now too. 



 

 

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #401 on: Aug 19, 16, 05:32:57 PM »
Sorry, but I don't expect anybody other than trained police officers to protect my property while I'm evacuated.  It's all just stuff and you can't enjoy it if you're dead.  That's what insurance is for anyway.

My main concern, however, is that if a large portion of the population stays and waits for there to be imminent danger, then there is only one way out of town and that's Highway 2.  We've all seen what the traffic is like during ski season up Highway 2.  Imagine if the whole town waited and then tried to evacuate at once with any kind of required urgency.  Surely several lives would be lost just because they couldn't get out fast enough.

I do appreciate the people at the coffee shop and the grocery store taking care of our firefighters but I don't think the majority of the people who stayed are providing that same service.

Anyway, thanks for keeping the conversation respectful.  :)


I for one am grateful that some of our friends stayed behind and were able to look after our property, pets and gardens etc while the police and fire dept were busy with their primary responsibilities.   What do a lot of these folks have in common? They are all members of WW CERT (Community Emergency Response Team).

My understanding is that Wrightwood has one of the premiere CERT organizations in the country. These folks train for days/weeks on various aspects of emergency response, search and rescue, first aid, sheltering in place,traffic control, emergency communications, fire fighter support, etc.

Many of these CERT folks are HAM radio certified and are plugged into county Emergency Communications Organizations and generally know well beforehand what is happening with any given emergency situation. They have training regarding when CERT members themselves need to evacuate.


All CERT members are screened and fingerprinted by the SBC Sheriffs Office before they are issued their ID Badges.   I would trust these folks the same or more than police or fire to look after WW community member's property.

CERT members.... Thank You for your service and sacrifice  during these trying times.

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #402 on: Aug 19, 16, 05:42:44 PM »
Nice that you criticize the police. It's the "in thing" to do lately. So how much crime have you personally stopped by staying up there?

Ah, you must be the forum Troll.  Nice to meet you.  But i will not pay your toll.

You seem pretty trendy already.  I can criticize anything i want.  It's called freedom of speech.  If you don't like it, then you can always move to China.

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #403 on: Aug 19, 16, 05:44:19 PM »
Great point MojaveSideCar.

Here's some news regarding the 138 closure.. direct from the P.O at Oasis and the 138. You can get to the P.O. There is a LEO stationed at Oasis and the 138 and you will not be allowed to go back East on the 138.  cheryl o7o

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #404 on: Aug 19, 16, 05:46:16 PM »
Sarajevo,
Sorry you feel miserable but you truly don't have a clue as to what was going on. Over the last 3 days LACSD sent 400 Deputies to an unfamiliar town with no maps to mutual aid SBCSD. They had a tactical plan, which, I don't feel the need to explain that to you because I'm sure you wouldn't understand, but it worked.  The LACSD mutual aid response is complete for this event. They won't be back tonight.
BTW, 3 looters were arrested last night.

Hey there.  I like your name.  You certainly act like a tool after all.  I am not miserable.  Quite the contrary.  The town is peaceful and quiet.  I have plenty of food, beer, and snacks. 

I have more of a clue than those who ran away from town, i can tell you that.  As far as tactical goes, I was in the military and my time with them goes quite a while back.  Can you even write an operational order?  Oh, I can, but i won't waste my time trying to educate a pseudo-intellectual such as yourself.  Not sure what, if anything was accomplished by the "authorities".

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #405 on: Aug 19, 16, 05:47:18 PM »
Sarajevo
Let's stop the personal attacks or you'll be banned from posting.

Please read this topic about Acceptable vs Unacceptable Forum posting

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #407 on: Aug 19, 16, 06:09:46 PM »

I for one am grateful that some of our friends stayed behind and were able to look after our property, pets and gardens etc while the police and fire dept were busy with their primary responsibilities.   What do a lot of these folks have in common? They are all members of WW CERT (Community Emergency Response Team).

My understanding is that Wrightwood has one of the premiere CERT organizations in the country. These folks train for days/weeks on various aspects of emergency response, search and rescue, first aid, sheltering in place,traffic control, emergency communications, fire fighter support, etc.

Many of these CERT folks are HAM radio certified and are plugged into county Emergency Communications Organizations and generally know well beforehand what is happening with any given emergency situation. They have training regarding when CERT members themselves need to evacuate.


All CERT members are screened and fingerprinted by the SBC Sheriffs Office before they are issued their ID Badges.   I would trust these folks the same or more than police or fire to look after WW community member's property.

CERT members.... Thank You for your service and sacrifice  during these trying times.

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I appreciate the CERT members as well.  Are you certain all the people who stayed behind are CERT members though?  I, for one, am doubtful.

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #408 on: Aug 19, 16, 06:15:53 PM »
The town is peaceful and quiet.  I have plenty of food, beer, and snacks... I have more of a clue than those who ran away from town, i can tell you that...

You know, Sarajevo -- I was OK with your original comment. I get it. But with this comment, you showed who you really are. Those of us who evacuated made it possible for people like you to stay, because we emptied the streets enough so fire equipment can move freely. That is the reason for a town-wide evacuation anyway, as I'm sure you know.

I have lived in WW for 13 years. I evacuated in 2009, I evacuated last Tuesday, and if the call comes again I will evacuate then too. The town won't burn down. I don't go because I'm scared. I go so that firefighters can move freely and not worry about me, and apparently so people like you can choose to stay with your food, beer, and snacks.

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #409 on: Aug 19, 16, 06:17:10 PM »
Good news for Wrightwood - The latest map I got shows the portion of the fire nearest Wrightwood to be contained a short time ago.  I got the map in a text from friends up North but am having trouble attaching the image to this post.  I have asked my source for the source but perhaps one of you can find it?

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #410 on: Aug 19, 16, 06:23:51 PM »
It is fustrating for thoes of us who did evacuate not to get any information. People down the hill are more concerned about Jonny Depps divorce than people's actual life. Can we get back in to WW yet?

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #411 on: Aug 19, 16, 06:25:09 PM »
Regarding CERT and mandatory evacuations, CERT strongly recommends you leave, not stay.  Individual CERT members who stayed behind do not represent the stand that CERT holds.  If we as Civilian Emergency Response Team members encourage people to stay, we are not representing what we at taught!  We are trained to help and keep people safe, not put them into potentially deadly situations.   

I am a communicator for Division F.  I listened to what the professionals have said we should do.  I trust their expertise, not someone's feelings.   

CERT is under the direction of San Bernardino County Fire.  They instruct us what to do, activate us, deactivate us.  We need to represent them as professionally we can.

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #412 on: Aug 19, 16, 06:39:19 PM »

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #413 on: Aug 19, 16, 06:39:41 PM »
Twitter
San Bernardino NF ?@SanBernardinoNF 2 hours ago

#BlueCutFire - Lytle Creek is still under Mandatory Evacuations - Media please help dispel the rumors.. @sbcountysheriff @SBCOUNTYFIRE

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #414 on: Aug 19, 16, 06:48:30 PM »
I commend all that stayed. When we experienced the fire in big pines last year, it was evident that there were more important things that needed to be protected, which I understand. It was nice to be there. Its not simply just about the structure or property. Its about the community. Fire will always do their job, but they may not go beyond if there is no personal connection or a more important threat.

Does anyone know if access to table mountain is possible through big pines highway? Eager to get home...

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #415 on: Aug 19, 16, 06:49:38 PM »
ABC7 Eyewitness News ?@ABC7 4 minutes ago

#BlueCutFire destroys 96 homes; fire official says number may increase

http://abc7.com/news/firefighters-make-major-gains-against-blue-cut-fire/1476394/

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #416 on: Aug 19, 16, 06:52:24 PM »
I give up :)

No I can't.  But do need to just ignore some posts.

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #417 on: Aug 19, 16, 06:58:34 PM »
I found this map that now shows that a portion of the fire that is threatening Wrightwood as "contained".  This is really good news for us: 



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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #418 on: Aug 19, 16, 07:03:30 PM »
How Wrightwood was won: Dozers, defiant neighbors and the battle against the Blue Cut Fire

Thanks for posting this, John. Good to see some non-biased opinions both for and against staying behind.

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #419 on: Aug 19, 16, 07:19:02 PM »
I agree, Thanks for all you do here John