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Re: Home Fire Sprinklers.
« Reply #20 on: Jan 24, 07, 04:40:59 PM »
If I decide to not charge my system are there any ramifications besides not being able to have the protection of a fire sprinkler system?

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Re: Home Fire Sprinklers.
« Reply #21 on: Jan 24, 07, 05:56:13 PM »
That's like having a smoke detector without batteries.

If the house was built and required to have sprinklers I would think that an insurance company would have issues if the house burned down and the sprinkler system was not active.

If you have a sprinkler system it should be used and regularly tested.

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Re: Home Fire Sprinklers.
« Reply #22 on: Jan 24, 07, 06:12:10 PM »
It's a required life safety system and needs to be active at all times. 

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Re: Home Fire Sprinklers.
« Reply #23 on: Jan 24, 07, 07:13:54 PM »
My fire sprinkler pipe blew up during the cold weather.  Does anyone have names and phone numbers of company's that are certified to fix fire sprinkler pipes?

Fire Chief  909.381.8049

They are out of San Bernardino.  We had them come up to look at relocating one of our sprinkler lines during our construction project.  We decided not to move the line do to the expense.

The company was recommended to me by Stu Thompson who used to do fire sprinkler inspection/tests up here in WW.

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Here is an update of our ordeal.
« Reply #24 on: Feb 13, 07, 09:56:56 PM »
Here is an update of our ordeal. 

If you know of anyone who had damage because of the freezing weather during that cold weekend and they are making a claim with their insurance company make sure they have the insurance company classifies it as a catastrophe.  That particular weekend was classified as a catastrophe.  By classifying it this way the insurance company will never count that as a claim against you when you go to renew or change to another insurance company.

The insurance company suggested that we go with a company that does the whole process from tearing out the damaged property, drying out the whole area, spraying anti-mold chemicals in the wall, to repairing, painting, and cleaning the carpet.  The only part they could not do was repair the broken fire sprinkler pipe.  We called every fire sprinkler company around and they were either way too busy to get out here or would not accept any new business.  We finally got ahold of the company that originally installed it and they were able to come up within a week to make the repair.

The whole process took about three weeks because of the spike in repairs needed in the southland.

We decided not to recharge the system.  It seem that this is a common problem even when you service the system once a year.  Our life style is closer to the safe side than most people that do have fires that burn down their homes.  It appears that the majority of people that have fires in their homes are people that overload their electrical systems, burn candles, have space heaters, store flammable liquids, and smoke, none of which apply to us which in-turn significantly reduces the chance of us ever having a fire in our home.

We are so blessed that our damage was only isolated to the garage and we had an alert neighbor which saw the water running down the street and was able to stop it before it became worse than it was.

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Re: Home Fire Sprinklers.
« Reply #25 on: Feb 13, 07, 10:53:43 PM »

We decided not to recharge the system. 

The fact that you have decided to risk the lives of you and anyone else that gets caught in a fire in your home is your choice.
I have my own opinion but it is exactly that....just my opinion.



It seem that this is a common problem even when you service the system once a year. 

This statement is false. If this were true then more people in WW would have had their systems freeze and break. Just because someone has their DCA ( Double Check Assembly ) certified once a year does not mean that their fire sprinkler system is in proper working condition. The DCA has one use, its to keep whatever is in the system from getting out of the system and into the public water system. If there is only water in the fire sprinkler system or the glycerin that is added to the system has lost its freeze protection qualities then the system is more than likely going to freeze and break.
The fire sprinkler system, its components and its contents need to be inspected in addition to checking the DCA.


I am curious to know if you have had your fire sprinkler system inspected to see if it was in proper working condition prior to this event? I ask because if you had had your system inspected yearly you probably would not have had a problem with your system freezing.  If you did have your system checked then you need to contact the company that did the inspection and ask a few well worded questions.

I am truly sorry that you and yours had to go through this but my concern for you and the safety of others prompted me to write this.

I would hate to think that because of misinformation someone will shut their system off and "god forbid" have a fire.

Please keep in mind that no one has ever died from fire related injuries in a home that had a fire sprinkler system activate and work properly.

If anyone has questions regarding their fire sprinkler system please feel free to contact me.

Nick Giglio, President/CEO
Pacific West Fire Protection, Inc
PO Box 615
Wrightwood, CA 92397
760-249-1220





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Re: Home Fire Sprinklers.
« Reply #26 on: Sep 14, 14, 05:44:59 PM »
i've got a couple questions regarding residential fire sprinkler systems. 
What year did San Bernardino county require them to be installed on new builds?  I have looked on their webaite but no joy so far.
Are older houses (built in 1978) required to have this sprinkler system?
If I were to purchase said older 1978 house would I have to retrofit it with a residential fire sprinkler system?
Are we supposed to receive any notice to have our residential fire sprinkler system tested each year? (Current home has sprinkler system)

Thanks!   :2thumbsup:

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Re: Home Fire Sprinklers.
« Reply #27 on: Sep 14, 14, 06:16:27 PM »
California adopts fire sprinkler requirements in new homes
The new code requirement became effective January 1, 2011.

http://nfpa.typepad.com/firesprinklerinitiative/2010/01/california-adopts-fire-sprinkler-requirements-in-new-homes.html

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Re: Home Fire Sprinklers.
« Reply #28 on: Sep 14, 14, 06:32:15 PM »
So why does my 14 year old home have them?  Was it something builders in WW always did?

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Re: Home Fire Sprinklers.
« Reply #29 on: Sep 14, 14, 08:10:59 PM »
back in 05-06 when we were building a house up here on the LA side. The LA requirements were x miles from a fire station and x feet from the closet hydrant or less. (I think it was something like 3 miles and 300 ft). We also had to prove that we had x amount of water pressure in the hydrant. We had to prove our case to LA county to avoid putting in the sprinklers that a regular (B) licensed general contractor can not do unless he has the proper license attachment (C16).

I did get a quote back then for sprinklers for a 2500 sqft 2 story home in wrightwood and it was about $14K, plus the yearly inspect, which really needs to be done by a professional. Here's some history I found of how the codes have stiffened over the years in ca.

http://osfm.fire.ca.gov/codedevelopment/pdf/History%20of%20Residential%20Fire%20Sprinklers%20in%20CA%20.pdf

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Re: Home Fire Sprinklers.
« Reply #30 on: Sep 14, 14, 08:42:48 PM »

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FACT: Loss records of Factory Mutual Research show that the probability of a sprinkler discharging accidentally due to a manufacturing defect is only 1 in 16 million sprinklers per year in service.

I know of several people that had extensive water damage due to sprinklers going off for one reason or another.  The last one was in Juniper Hills where the kids were throwing a ball around in the house.  The time before that it was someone carrying a ladder through the home. 

http://www.firesprinkleradvisoryboard.org/mythsandfacts.html