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Public Forums => Radio Talk => Topic started by: clint on May 26, 05, 09:42:33 PM
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Nope, not the grub grabbers. A new net will be started next Thursday evening at 19:00 This will be a simplex a net. So it will be heard mainly within Wrightwood. It's a chance to make sure your radios are working once a week. We may even have some ARRL news to read. We will start the net on 2 meters and will alternate weeks with 2 meters one week and 220 the next. So be listening at 19:00 local on June 2nd. at 147.57 with CTCSS of 100.0 even though there won't be many of us at first, it will be a directed net. Tune in to see how that works.
73s
KB6CLA
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I'm glad we won't be forced into blue hair dye ;)
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Okay when you guys sign off with 73, do you mean:
1. My love to you
2. Vague sign of fraternalism
3. Accept my compliments
4. Best regards
5. A friendly word between operators
Also, Clint when is that next class starting up?
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73,
Best regards
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As long as none of the guys wish you 88's you're OK Bob.
I needed a little braether from activities. I have to confer with Wayne on starting the next class. And I'll keep you all posted here as to progress or lack of.
KB6CLA
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As long as none of the guys wish you 88's you're OK Bob.
I needed a little braether from activities.
as opposed to a breather... must have been so tuckered out he couldn't even spell it.
BTW Bob,
88s = Love and kisses :-*
KG6ZEU
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Thanks Susan, I was just about to tell Clint that I would bite on what the meaning of that was. Not that there is anything wrong with that. ;D
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Ah...always good to find one more Seinfeld fan. Not that there's anything wrong with that either.
Here's to shrinkage and close talkers and yada yada.
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I won't be able to make this first net, since I'll be in Wichita KS all week, returning on Friday afternoon.
I'm usually monitoring the TMO repeater to/from work, which is about 0530-0645 weekday mornings, and anywhere from 1700-1900 weekday early evenings (depending on my work schedule)
Have a great net folks, and I'll catch up with you all, when I return!
Peace and 73's
Matt
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I think the net is a good idea--good chance to get our feet wet (ter). I'm trying to make arrangements to be available for the first round.
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I thought Thursdays were usually good for you Susan. That's why I picked that night.
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99.9% of the time they are...have some ArtTour stuff going on. Actually--lots of ArtTour stuff going on right now. I have to change hats and jump from WAD right to ArtTour around this time of year.
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I wonder if I will be able to make the trip from my home QTH? Guess I will have the speak loudly, ha.
Seriously, I plan to take a drive up the hill on Thursday to be a part of the fun.
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I called in a favor and will be available that evening. :2thumbsup:
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Here are the answers to tonights net question.
UHF or PL-259 (This is a male. The female is an S0-239)
BNC
SMA
N
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Thanks Sensei for a well run net--great job! I vaguely remember PL-259, but that's about it.
Does KG6ZEV win a prize for his answer? Maybe you should pose the question the week before to give us a chance to research the answers. Kind of like homework.
As far as prizes, could you arrange for me to get a day off (paid) from work? Now that's motivation.
KG6ZEU
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I was going to offer an official Steller's Jay egg shell but we discovered today that the birds eat the shells so he'll need to talk to them about his prize.
Good job Clint - It sounded so official I was afraid to say much as I thought the FCC might be listening.
Thanks Sensei for a well run net--great job! I vaguely remember PL-259, but that's about it.
Does KG6ZEV win a prize for his answer? Maybe you should pose the question the week before to give us a chance to research the answers. Kind of like homework.
As far as prizes, could you arrange for me to get a day off (paid) from work? Now that's motivation.
KG6ZEU
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My notes say 222.120 Simplex, CTCSS 100.0, Encode / Decode for next Thursday.
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Jack's notes are correct.
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I'm monitoring at the moment. Interesting stuff.
KG6ZET
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can't get the radio to cooperate...
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Hi Matt, that's what this little net is good for. To work out the technical kinks.
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And a good thing too! I spent the rest of the 7PM hour, figuring out what settings I didn't have correct, then programmed the 220 settings into a memory slot, for next time. Now, I have to do the same with the 2 meter radio.
Thanks again!
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Just realized that I won't be able to make tomorrow nights net, due to our son's Cub Scout den meeting at 6:30pm. I'll be back next week.
73's!
Matt/KG6ZET
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That OK Matt, Neither will I. Robin had wrist surgery today and I need to take her to work and pick her up tomorrow night. I suggest that all of you who are available still have one. So Susan and John can talk to each other. Because my count says that's it for tomorrow. Matt is at scouts, I am playing nurse (you should see me in white stockings, woo hoo) and Jack is training for something or other.
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Explain to me again just exactly how we would be able to tell if you had on white stockings or it was just your bare legs? ;)
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Ooo, "Et tu Brut'e" Come on now Bob, is that anyway to treat a fellow union member. And besides, the difference is obvious. White and hairy= bare legs. White and silky smooth=stockings. Of course for the most stunning look, you really want fish nets (specifically "industry net") over shimmery tights in a light toast shade. Thats what all the vegas show girls wear. Humph, and people say all those years in theater were wasted.
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I'm not so sure your count is accurate.
KG6ZEQ has not missed a checkin and KF6EZZ might attempt the simplex net with his HT - which has very little output power.
So Susan and John can talk to each other. Because my count says that's it for tomorrow.
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I was'nt ignoring ZEQ, I just figured sitting in the room across from each other would'nt be much of a net. And I did'nt know EZZ was going to check in. That's great. I'll send you the link to the ARRL news so you play it.
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Tonights net should be on 220 @ 19:00. Susan and Jack will not be available. I should be home on time.
Hope to hear Matt tonight
KB6CLA
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Well, we had two check in's tonight plus your net control operator. The techie trivia question was: If you put a 1/4 wave antenna on your HT in place of the rubber duck, how many dB of gain to you achieve? It's sort of a trick question. Since the rubber duck is a loss, and gain figures are compared to a 1/4 wave antenna at 0dB the correct answer in none. Even thought you do gain over the duck, you only gain up to zero. Next weeks net will be conducted on 147.57 Mhz with a PL of 100.00.
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Are you guys on now. I have my scanner tuned to 147.57 and am not hearing anything.
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Bob,
We used the 220 band tonight. It was on 222.120 and didn't last very long with only 3 of us.
Are you guys on now. I have my scanner tuned to 147.57 and am not hearing anything.
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Bob, I apologize. I should have told you that. We alternate bands each week. I doubt if your scanner can receive 220. Most don't. Next week we will be back on 2 meters as John said.
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Bob, were you able to hear us tonight? Next week the net will be on 222.12 simplex with a PL of 100.0
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Sorry Clint my boss (i.e. wife) had me working on some other projects tonight and I did not have my scanner on. One of these times I am going to catch you guys for sure.
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Clint
why are you guys using PL tones on simplex?
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Because of Cable TV interference in out part of town. You can read that info here. Also as a teaching tool to get people to understand their radios better.
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Because of Cable TV interference in out part of town. You can read that info here. Also as a teaching tool to get people to understand their radios better.
didn't think about interference, but i thought maybe getting familiarized with the gear may be a reason.
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Because of Cable TV interference in out part of town. You can read that info here. Also as a teaching tool to get people to understand their radios better.
didn't think about interference, but i thought maybe getting familiarized with the gear may be a reason.
You wouldn't believe how much RFI there is in Wrightwood.
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220 2night
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Tonights quiz question was, what are the elements of a Yagi antenna called?
Susan came closest with Directors and Driven Element.
A Yagi antenna has one element that is "driven" with the feed line attached to it. Counting from the back, this would be the second element. The most rearward element is the Reflector, and all the elements in front of those two are Directors. Now, are the reflector and directors longer or shorter than the driven element?
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The reflector element is longer than the driven element and the director elements are shorter than the driven element.
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Show off. Just remember, I hold claim to teacher's pet.
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Show off. Just remember, I hold claim to teacher's pet.
Whew, I'd get a little nervous if I was getting hugs and kisses from Clint, not that there's anything wrong with that ;D.
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Watch out Bob, you don't have to worry about the kisses but I am a hugger by nature. Most of my best male friends are huggers. The world needs more hugs you know!
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Clint, does your blow-up doll know about this? ???
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i used to be a turkey, now i'm a ham!
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I have a friend who is Jewish, and when he got his ham license I bought him a custom license plate frame that read:
Amateur Radio
Where HAM is Kosher
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Boy, sure am glad I came home for the net tonight.
At least I checked in. Maybe Bob heard me?
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Hey! Lets do a net tonight! Two weeks in a row again. Wow!
Tonight we will be on 2 meters.
145.570 (100.0 PL)
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I'm a big advocate of 220. We have a simplex net started on Thursday nights and we alternate between 147.57 (100.0) and 222.12 (100.0) every other week. I'm trying to get a new HF antenna up so my HF is currently inop.
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The Bluridge machine is part of the linked Mountain Repeater Assoc system. It's links to low Potosi and Contractors. From parts of Wrightwood you can get into the Condor machine on Quartzite (Victorville).
I'm looking to buy a used 331. Got a spare?
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I'm putting up a vertical. GAP Titan DX. Being a small community with no industry and no big power lines, just less RF saturation in general, we are not too bad a place for a vertical.
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Hey Clint,
If we're up there when you put up the Gap let us know, it brings back fond memories. Seriously :drummer: Ba-dum-dum.
Mike and I started dating in March (not this one, back when) and I remember it because we missed Valantine's Day (hrmmmph). So when Field Day rolled around we participated together with the (then) TRW club. Our assignment: put up a brand new Gap out of the box and run 80m. Oh yeah, we had to put up a tent, too.
AMAZINGLY, :Smileys: we had not one argument while putting up the tent nor the (pardon me) !$%!#$% Gap antenna. I thought this was a pretty good sign of things to come!!! :ballons:
Sadly, our station was a bust due to 1) bad band conditions, and 2) the 20m CW station next door walking all over us. I won't even mention the balun....
Kerin
(Who's having way too much fun with the smiley's as all my 'boards' are lists and don't use them. I'll get over it eventually....)
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Already have the GAP. The Titan DX does not use ground radials. It has an elevated counterpoise at the feed point. I have some real tree restriction issues so a vertical is the only option. Never been a big fan of the MFJ analyzer since it's not a true SWR meter and won't work at 220. Won't measure power.
I have a Bird.
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There are about 80 hams in Wrightwood. Every morning at 07:00 there is net on Table called the Grug Grabbers. About 4 people from Wrightwood. Now this may not indicate how many people really monitor Table, because the neet is so weird that most (all) of my students don't check into it either. I don't monitor Table because I can't hit from my office in San Dimas. You can't work TMO until your quite a ways out in the basin. It does cover the high desert, in fact much of the way to Las Vegas, quite well.
That's why I'm pushing 220. There is no good 2 meter path from Wrightwood to most of Southern California. There are three or four 220 machines or linked systems that do very well.
And I don't even monitor TMO at home because most of the traffic is just junk I don't want to hear. It's fairly busy machine with about 4 regular users who are on A LOT. BTW the Control op is Bill Woods W6FXJ
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<guess we were replying at the same time :) had to reinsert this because I logged out while posting>
Percentages sound right for down here as well. Honestly speaking, can't imagine keeping up with a daily net unless it's in the work setting like down here with the defense contractors just so they know what hams are there each day in case of an incident.
Our weekly DCS net dwindled out because we aren't very active anymore and really didn't have anything to say, except "yeah, log me in for 1 hour". It's a real challenge keeping volunteers interested when there's nothing to do.
As for rag chewing, we used to have a great little commuter group on our repeater - very eclectic topics. Some ham stuff, but lots of everyday stuff, kids, remodeling, even recipes (and yes, that was also from some of the guys). It was a great way to keep up with friends, really (oh yeah, and make sure your equipment is in great working order ;) Now the last couple of years our commuting times have changed so we don't talk, and honestly, don't keep up very well - last thing I think about when I get home is calling folks for no reason. Too bad we lost the group, because it was what used to call the equivalent of Tim Taylor & Wilson talking over the fence on Home Improvement.
Seems like 2m has it's limits anymore as was mentioned above in this thread. A little coincidence in that the 147.57 frequency was what was used in El Segundo where I grew up since Marconi was a boy, but was pretty unusable by the late 1990s due to either interference from Mexico or (and what really griped me) other hams who would not let go of their rag chewing on the frequency for our weekly DCS drill . This was pretty much the inspiration for going after a 440 freq when that band was reorganized. Guess these rag chewers didn't read the part about why amateurs get any band width at all by the FCC, but then I'm a child of the Kennedy generation and think you should volunteer to do something, no matter how small.
Too bad you don't use 440 up there, we really like it down here and so are 440 rich equipment-wise. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky at the W6TRW raffle next weekend :2thumbsup:
Hope everyone had a nice weekend,
Kerin
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OK, I admit it. I've lost track of what band we should be on tonight. So it's going to be 220.
Net tonight at 19:00 on 222.12 (100.0)
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KG6ZEP
KG6ZEQ
Will not be in town tonight so we'll miss the action.
My guess at the weekly quiz is "none of the above" ;)
KG6ZEQ guess is "C" (charlie out)
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Okay, the answer to the quiz question that we didn't ask on the net we didn't have was C. So KG6ZEQ wwas the winner.
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No net tonight as several of us will be off the hill.
Next week the 15th at 19:00 on 222.12 (100.0)
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Thanks to those who checked in to the net last night, both on time, :2thumbsup: and after a reminder phone call. :-\
Next week we will be on 2 meters.
147.57o simplex / PL of 100.0
Maybe we can have check ins from our three newly transplanted hams? :welcomehere:
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What happened to the net this week ?
We had both the 220 and 2 meter on ;)
KG6ZEP
KG6ZEQ
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Oops! I got home after 7:00 and frankly because of the short week I forgot it was Thursday!
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Next week we will be on 2 meters.
147.57o simplex / PL of 100.0
Maybe we can have check ins from our three newly transplanted hams? :welcomehere:
I feel so dirty, and so ashamed.. I don't have 220, 440, or any of those fancy schmancy bands. All I have is 2M. Will ya'll still talk to me? ;)
Seirously, what day/time/freq are your 2M nets?
For some reason, I had made a note to myself that something took place Wed evenings at 1900L, 145.62, but it was silent the last few times I looked there.
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The net is Thursday at 19:00. When I don't forget!
We alternate between 2 meters 147.57 simplex PL 100.00
and 1.25 meters 222.12 simplex PL 100.00
So when we are on 2 meters we love to talk to you. I anticipate using 220 for disaster communications here so you might look into a new toy on that band.
Just check this forum for which band we are going to be on. With the new class starting I will be more diligent about updates here.
73s
KB6CLA
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The net is Thursday at 19:00. When I don't forget!
We alternate between 2 meters 147.57 simplex PL 100.00
So the 2M net, is "every other week" then? (Tonight... and two weeks from tonight?)
Gee, I suppose there could be a nice tri-bander in my future.
73 de Bob, KN6EZ
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Correct
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Clint-can you call me at 760 218-4316? I would PM you but you know......Jim Wilkins
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No net tonight. One of us is out of town and I need to work on prep for class. Next week we will be back on two meters.
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Clint,
I want to wish you success with the new class. You are an excellent instructor and I know that all will go well. Let's see another 'perfect test' again.
73 de KG6ZEV
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Net tonight at 19:00 on 147.570
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Net tonight at 19:00 on 147.570
We were there... Bob C, artology, Gus, Wrightwood and Clint
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Aw crap! Sorry about that guys.. as you all figured out, I Didn't charge my battery (which is on its last legs anyway). Dropped out before I could finish the net. Double Margaritas for me next time, ok?
KN6EZ
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Hey Bob, are you part of an active VE team? I think John mentioned you were a VE. I'm a bit of a bind for our class test.
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I am/was a VE, for both ARRL and GLAARD (Greater LA...)
But, when I moved here this past summer, I dropped out of the AVARC (Lancaster) Radio club, and let my ARRL membership expire.
So, I Guess that means I'm no longer a VE
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Net tonight on 222.12 (100.0)
Might be a few minutes late. Have to do telemetry first.
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You could avoid that if you had the proper foil hat.
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That's probably the same thing the sheep say about the telemetry ;)
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There will not be a net next week as there is a Fire Safe Council bored meeting in conflict.
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There will not be a net next week as there is a Fire Safe Council bored meeting in conflict.
Knowing you're involvement, I'm sure you weren't taking a shot at the meetings. Perhaps you meant board? ;D
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And on top of that it's the planning meeting for the Wildfire Awareness event that's he's a co-chair ;)
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Oh er uh, yes yes, of course, that's what I meant. Board. How could I have missed that?
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Oh er uh, yes yes, of course, that's what I meant. Board. How could I have missed that?
Just as I suspected, it was not a mistake. Clint really does not enjoy the scintillating conversations at our meetings. :'(
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That's because the conversations keep waking him up. :zzz:
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I enjoy the first time we have them. I can tolerate the second time. It's the third time that gets to me.
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2 meters tonight. 147.57 (100.0)
19:00 local
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2 meters tonight. 157.57 (100.0)
19:00 local
Are we out of sync on the frequencys? Isn't tonight a 220 night? If not, should I assume 2 weeks from tonight will be the next 2m night?
(I would have PMed you this question, but apparently, I'm "blocked" from sending PMs to you)
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Bob,
I don't accept PMs from anyone. It's not you. You are correct, I put us out of sync. But our last net was on 220 and I thought you might like to check in tonight so I restarted us on 2 meters.
KB6CLA
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Sorry I missed the net last night.. I didn't get home in time. I"ll also be on travel most of March, and part of April.
- Bob KN6EZ
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Test Saturday!!!!!!!
Study, Study, Study!!!
:o
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So what is the net on tomorrow night? I should have the equipment to listen to either one by tomorrow. I don't think I will let Clint play with my new tri-band radio, since he won't let me do telemetry with him. ;)
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Net tonight on 222.12 simplex with a CTCSS tone of 100.0
You better be there Bob! And Susan and I are doing Telemetry after the net. You are welcome to join us. We'll pick you up at about 7:30. In fact if you want to buy your chaming wife dinner, we could do Mexico Lindo afterward.
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I'm in on the telemetry, but you still can't play with my tri-band radio. ;) Can you do Mexico Lindo before the net and telemetry? If you can, we would be in on that also, if you can't that is way too late to eat for my bride.
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Net tomorrow night 3/16/06 on 147.570 simplex ctcss 100.0.
Lets see who else got their radios.
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Clint says:
Net tonight on 222.12 simplex with a CTCSS tone of 100.0
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Tomorrow, April 27th, there will be no net due to WAD prep and sheep telemetry.
Tune in next week, same Bat Time, same Bat Channel!
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Leaving San Dimas now. If I make it home in time, net will be on 2 meters.
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Leaving San Dimas now. If I make it home in time, net will be on 2 meters.
Sorry about that, I put a post-it note on my monitor to remind me and promptly fell asleep on my recliner. How did it turn out? Anyone new show up?
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Bob C checked in :thumbs:
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Well I don't feel so bad now, as long as there is at least one Bob checking in. ;)
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Bob C came blasting in :2thumbsup:
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WOOOOO HOOOOOOO!!!! :2thumbsup:
I actually ordered a radio!! :wave:
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Leaving San Dimas now. If I get hom ein time Net will be on 220.
Someone call Bob and REMIND him!
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I got my radios today.
The batteries are currently charging.
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Which radio models did you get?
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Alinco DJ296 VHS FM transceiver
Vertex VX-150
About $300.
Now I can eat sticks & rocks for the rest of the month. (But I have radios!!) ;D
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No net tonight. Clint just called me and he was delayed at work and won't be able to get home in time.
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Hey Clint!
At the WAD you said you had a short list of local agency freqs that we should consider monitoring. Will you please post that list or send it to me via e-mail?
Thanks!
73s and all that good stuff.
KI6CXF
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Clint -
'At the WAD you said you had a short list of local agency freqs that we should consider monitoring. Will you please post that list or send it to me via e-mail?'
It would be neat to post the short list.
tiltronix = K6MBL
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Clint -
'At the WAD you said you had a short list of local agency freqs that we should consider monitoring. Will you please post that list or send it to me via e-mail?'
It would be neat to post the short list.
tiltronix = K6MBL
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I've been traveling a lot, and working insane schedules most of this summer, so I haven't been able to fire up my radio lately.
Are ya'll still doing periodic 2M nets, or do I need to go out and buy a 220/440 rig?
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here's a link to local HAM swap meets.
http://www.qsl.net/w6ier/ieswap.htm
is there a simplex freq. that everyone around here runs?
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Thanks Pete - I'll mark the dates on my calendar.
I miss the old General Dynamics swap meet in Cucamonga - It was getting similar to the TRW swap meet (just a lot smaller)
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The dates they show are Sundays not Saturdays
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yeah, those dates are for 2005. i'd call before going, just to make sure they still have them. HAM radio is kind of a dieing hobby.
the GD swap meet was really good. years ago i used to sell every month at all the local ham swaps, but they got to be kind of taken over by computer stuff. i haven't even gone to one for about 3 years, they may sell chinese toys by now.
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Ham radio a dieing hobby? That's funny. New licenses are at an all time high. New technologies like IRLP, PSK-31, ECHO Link, and APRS are generating interest in a whole new group of high tech hams that want to play around in digital modes. There is even a whole new category of didgital voice radio called D-Star.
And thanks to CERT trainings all over southern California people are getting a better understanding of Amateur Radios role in disaster communications.
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It's time to get the simplex net rejuvinated. We are going to move it to Monday nights instead of Thursday. Traffic Thursday evenings just makes it too hard to get home on time. We will try to have one the monday after Thanksgiving. 19:00 hrs on 222.12 simplex with a PL of 100.0
I will be working a scipt for a standard format and will expect folks to take turns at being net control. Since we play the ARRL audio news in a very low taech manner (mic keyed near your computer speaker) I hope most folks will be able to take a turn.
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So....no one has commented on this. Any reason for me to race home tonight or not?
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So....no one has commented on this. Any reason for me to race home tonight or not?
19:00 hrs on 222.12 simplex with a PL of 100.0. I got it!!
Oh, that's right, I'm not a HAM yet. :-\
Hiking with Toolman and finding out that he has radio contact even while down in the canyons where we hike in the Cabin Flat area, even using the Table Mountain repeater (Blue Ridge Repeater was down at the time) gives me added incentive...
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Sorry Robert, my 1950s vintage 220 rig only runs AM. Believe it or not, I tried FM in the 1950s and only found one ham who could properly demodulate the mode. He had a super-regenerative detector on his tunable IF.
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Yeah! License renewed 'til 2016. Now I should use it again!
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George,
Is the original on parchment paper ? ;D
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No, a fig leaf!!