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Re: Wrightwood Trails
« Reply #140 on: Jun 27, 04, 11:16:54 AM »
Warning: the biting flies are getting bad around Vincent gap. Wear your repellent.

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Re: Wrightwood Trails
« Reply #141 on: Jun 27, 04, 05:00:44 PM »
Nolena,
Which flies are you talking about? The deer flies?
Or the "new" ones?
Lately, every time I hike, I see these bugs (flies, ticks, fleas?)
And worse, I feel them. They bite.
Same size as a gnat, only longer and thinner.
They zoom in on your skin, bite, and for the next 6-8 days it itches like mad.
In the last 15 years of hiking local trails, I have not seen these particular bugs.
Any idea what they are?
Anyone?

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Re: Wrightwood Trails
« Reply #142 on: Jun 27, 04, 08:16:50 PM »
The deer flies were getting me. Can you describe these other $#%^&*@ bugs in more detail?

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Re: Wrightwood Trails
« Reply #143 on: Jun 29, 04, 10:15:02 AM »
I mostly notice them when walking under trees.
It is as if you stir them up from the ground as you move by. They seem to, not so much fly, as shoot through the air.
There are lots of them.
Very small, size of a gnat, only thinner.
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« Reply #144 on: Jun 11, 07, 01:13:17 AM »
Hi,   I've lived in the area for about 4 years and am really starting to get into the hiking.  I don't really know where any of the local hikes are.  Any info on local hikes in wrightwood?????

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Re: Wrightwood Trails
« Reply #145 on: Jun 11, 07, 10:06:25 PM »
First let me say that I love John W. Robinson's book, Trails of the Angeles, which lists 100 hikes in the San Gabriel Mtns.

I'm no expert, so others please chime in but here are some ideas:

Acorn canyon is nice and starts right in Wrightwood.  I believe it's about 2 miles to the top.  It's a pretty steep pull, but if you're accustomed to hiking, it's no big deal.  A lot of nice trees.  It joings the Pacific Crest Trail at the top.  See: http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=34.3495&lon=-117.64493&size=l&u=4&datum=nad27&layer=DRG  Watch out for parking restrictions.  The top part of the road is "off limits."

If you want a challenge, the trail to Pine Mtn, Dawson Pk, and Mt. Baldy is for you.  You don't have to do all three peaks; if you do, you're in amazing shape!  You would drive up Hwy 2, turn left on Blue Ridge, and drive to the N side of Wright Mtn.  Wright Mtn. overlooks Wrightwood.  See http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=34.32236&lon=-117.64114&size=l&u=4&datum=nad27&layer=DRG and http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=34.31337&lon=-117.64317&s=100&size=l&u=4&datum=nad27&layer=DRG25

Another cool one is Fish Fork Falls.  I went down there a few years back and was able to crawl on my belly to a point where I could watch the water actually falling and feel a cool breeze coming up the face of the falls.  CAVEAT:  I haven't been here for a few years and don't know what kind of shape the road and trail are in.  Just as in the above hike, you would go up the 2 to Blue ridge but instead of going all the way to the N ridge of Wright Mtn, you would turn right and go down into Prairie Fork.  You would need to then drive to Lupine Campground.  There's a dirt "road" (I think it's blocked off nowadays and you have to walk) that takes off to the South.  Follow that road to the ridge top, turn left and follow the switch backs down to the canyon bottom.  Proceed down the canyon bottom to Fish Fork Falls.  I wouldn't do this alone; canyon bottoms tend to have poor footing and any trails tend to get pretty sketchy after floods (like the ones in '05 and '06).  See http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=34.31337&lon=-117.64317&s=100&size=l&u=4&datum=nad27&layer=DRG25  I wouldn't try to go down those falls unless you really know what you're doing and have the proper climbing equipment.  There's a way you can loop back over Mt. Dawson from Fish Fork, but I haven't done that one since the 70's and have no idea what the condition of the trail is.  As I recall it's a real bu++ kicker.

Mt. Baden-Powell is also great.  See http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=34.36857&lon=-117.75802&size=l&u=4&datum=nad27&layer=DRG25  Four steep miles up, and four more back, but a good hike.  There's kind of a cool monument on top to Lord Baden-Powell the founder of the Boy Scouts.  This is the terminus of the Silver Moccasin Trail which starts over by Red Box near Mt. Wilson.  Boy Scouts make a week long "pilgrimage" along that trail to the monument although I don't think they're doing it as frequently now that part of Hwy 2 is closed.

Going down Prairie Fork further to Cabin Flat to the Prairie Fork trail that descends to the San Gabriel River is good as is the Mine Gulch trail from Vincent Gap.  If you could arrange a car shuttle, that would be a cool hike.  Heck let me know if you do that one, and I'll be one of the cars!  I've only done the Mine Gulch side and would love to do the whole hike.  Note:  The Mine Gulch trail does NOT go down Mine Gulch; it goes down Vincent Gulch.  I've been down Mine Gulch, and that is one wild, trail-less ride, although the old mining carts and equipment are pretty cool.  See http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=34.36529&lon=-117.72363&s=100&size=l&u=4&datum=nad27&layer=DRG25  Note that the map does NOT show the trail that goes from Vincent Gap down Vincent Gulch.  Trust me; it's there.  In fact, it's a pretty solid trail; not just a route or a "trace trail."  Word of warning:  The last time I tried to go to the Big Horn Mine towards the top of Mine Gulch, I was asked to leave by men with guns who started firing them into the air after I left.  Not fun.

There's also the Blue Ridge trail, but I haven't ever done that one.  If you don't mind driving towards Valyermo, there's the Devil's Chair and S. Fork trails.  There's also the Burkhart trail near Devils's Punchbowl.

There are probably a dozen others, but those are the ones that pop into my mind.

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Re: Wrightwood Trails
« Reply #146 on: Jun 12, 07, 12:44:43 AM »
Hi, Phoenixgirl, I totally agree with hikin_jim's response about John Robinson's book.  I've had a copy for several years, and have really enjoyed the descriptions of the trails, and have hiked several.  I'm certainly not in the good shape that hikin_jim is obviously in, so I would like to add a few simpler choices to the mix.  Not meaning to insult you, if you are capable of doing all those (I'm certainly not, wish I were... :P).

The Blue Ridge trail is very nice, starting across hwy 2 from the Big Pines visitor center.  It's a pleasant 2 mile hike up to Blue Ridge campground.  A little steep, but not bad.

You can park at Inspiration point, on either side of hwy 2.  From the south side, you can take either the PCT or the road up to Blue Ridge campground, then on to Guffy campground.  It's 2-1/2 miles to BR campground, and another 3 up to Guffy.
From the north side, you can take the PCT a little way to Grassy Hollow, then follow the PCT to Vincent Gap.  Or you can park at Grassy Hollow (the gate is closed on weekdays, but there is parking near the hwy).  Then take either the PCT or the high road toward Jackson Flat, and on to Vincent Gap.  If you go from Grassy Hollow to Vincent Gap on the high road it's about 3.5 miles, a little less if you hike the trail (that's one way).

Of the ones that Jim mentioned, I've hiked the Acorn trail, the Mine Gulch trail almost to Cabin Flat, and the PCT to Baden-Powell.  The Mine Gulch trail is an upside down one, and I definitely would not do that in the summer (too many bugs, plus it's hot).  I've hiked from the Visitor Center at Devil's Punchbowl, to Devil's Chair, many times, and that is a great hike, but again, not in summer.  That is a great spring or fall hike.

There is also the Jackson Lake trail, starting either from Grassy Hollow, Vincent Gap, or Jackson Lake.  I'll give you more details if you're interested in that one.

I can probably think of some others but until I get back into shape, these are the ones I like to do.

Happy Hiking!

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Re: Wrightwood Trails
« Reply #147 on: Jun 12, 07, 01:57:33 AM »
What is the High Road?  Is that the highway?

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Re: Wrightwood Trails
« Reply #148 on: Jun 14, 07, 06:13:49 AM »
I believe the road in question is the service road to Jackson Flat CG.  See http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=34.38033&lon=-117.728&size=l&u=4&datum=nad27&layer=DRG

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Re: Wrightwood Trails
« Reply #149 on: Jun 14, 07, 08:15:13 AM »
What is the High Road?  Is that the highway?

I think Hikin_Jim is correct with the map he posted - I don't DO maps well, they didn't teach us that at USC.   ;D

By the "high road" I mean the one, where if you park at/near Grassy Hollow, you walk past the picnic area, Visitor Center, past a couple of gates, and on to Jackson Flat.  Very pleasant, and in fact did that one yesterday with my tiny wiener dog and my friend and her big dog.  No breeze at all, pretty warm, but I love that walk!

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Re: Wrightwood Trails
« Reply #150 on: Jun 14, 07, 02:12:20 PM »
I know where you mean now.  I had never heard it called the High Road before.  That is a nice walk if I remember correctly with some great views of the desert.

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Re: Wrightwood Trails
« Reply #151 on: Jun 14, 07, 06:32:25 PM »
Has anyone been up Sheep Canyon or Slover Canyon?  Very rugged and signs of VERY large predators up both.

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Re: Wrightwood Trails
« Reply #152 on: Jun 14, 07, 09:10:17 PM »
Saw some medium sized bear tracks in Slover a while back.

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Re: Wrightwood Trails
« Reply #153 on: Jun 14, 07, 09:18:53 PM »
Has anyone been up Sheep Canyon or Slover Canyon?  Very rugged and signs of VERY large predators up both.

I've seen Mountain Lion tracks at the top of both.

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Re: Wrightwood Trails
« Reply #154 on: Jun 19, 07, 06:37:25 PM »
Does anyone know how to get to the Flume Canyon trail?  I've heard it is a great hike but also heard it runs through private property.  I took a drive up Flume Canyon road the other day to see where you pick up the trail but couldn't see a thing.  Anyone have any info on where to pick up the trail and if this is on private property is the owner okay with people asking them to go through their property to use the trail?   

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Re: Wrightwood Trails
« Reply #155 on: Jun 21, 07, 07:18:40 PM »
Does anyone know how to get to the Flume Canyon trail?  I've heard it is a great hike but also heard it runs through private property.  I took a drive up Flume Canyon road the other day to see where you pick up the trail but couldn't see a thing.  Anyone have any info on where to pick up the trail and if this is on private property is the owner okay with people asking them to go through their property to use the trail?  

Anyone?

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Re: Wrightwood Trails
« Reply #156 on: Jun 24, 07, 07:23:49 AM »
Just did the hike today from Vincent Gap to the Big Horn Mine.  There is still fresh water coming out of the mine and also along the trail.  But if you hike that be aware that there are at least 3 places where rock slides have gone over the trail.  The other thing is at the mine itself, there is a lot of graffiti on the mine, the rocks, and the entrance to the tunnel.

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Re: Wrightwood Trails
« Reply #157 on: Jun 24, 07, 08:50:30 PM »
Did the Jackson Lake loop last week. It was good, but hot. About 10 miles for the whole loop; 7 uphill to Jackson Flat; 3 downhill back to the lake.
Pretty.

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Re: Wrightwood Trails
« Reply #158 on: Jun 25, 07, 07:45:48 AM »
Did the Jackson Lake loop last week. It was good, but hot. About 10 miles for the whole loop; 7 uphill to Jackson Flat; 3 downhill back to the lake.
Pretty.


No, it was 25 miles UP to Jackson Flat, and 3 miles back down.   :o ;D   One of us was a little sore the next day..... :P

Very pretty hike though.

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Re: Wrightwood Trails
« Reply #159 on: Jun 27, 07, 06:40:00 PM »
So, if I'm reading Rad Dog's post correctly, the Big Horn Mine is open to hikers again?  Some years ago, I went hike there and was chased out by several gun toting men who appeared to be working the mine.  Shortly after I left they began firing their guns into the air.  Not the most pleasant experience!

Still it would be fun to go back if it's now open to hikers.  I remember all of the buildings -- they were pretty intact in the 60's/70's.  I know that the ravages of time have probably taken their toll (haven't been since the mid 80's), but it would still be a bit of a nice nostalgia trip.

One time I hiked to Big Horn Mine, descended mine gulch (a lot of neat mine cars and other scraps and tidbits) to the trail coming down from Vincent gap and returned via said trail to Vincent Gap.  Kind of a neat hike, but Mine Gulch is pretty steep, and it's NOT a short hike.  Best to be in good shape; not sure what the mileage is.