Author Topic: Japan earthquake is a warning and a reminder that we live in earthquake country (Read 47537 times)

in my dreams · « **Reply #20 on:** Mar 15, 11, 11:53:56 AM »

Well! Re canned food--when we moved in, there was an exploded can of pears in the cabinet, (as well as a perfect container of Morton's Salt with a coupon for more salt , exp in 1976), a can of beer in the fridge from the 1984 Olympics. . .

I can see myself (Johnny-on-the-spot, on top of things

) with a case of toxic, exploded cans. I would have to come up with a plan to rotate them out lest we die from botulism. . .

Wrightwood · « **Reply #21 on:** Mar 15, 11, 11:58:51 AM »

A friend put cans of pineapple in their 55 gallon barrel of emergency supplies and was that ever a mistake! The cans exploded and made a huge mess.

MMB · « **Reply #22 on:** Mar 15, 11, 11:59:23 AM »

Jirka, is a little distress better than no anxiety? I'm honest about my not being prepared. I have a philosophy regarding survival. I have it because, I've managed to survive situations I am aware most people have never been through. I don't brag about any experience I happen to own. I agree, having canned items is good. We have sardine cans.... which I'm not bragging about...
but they have tomato sauce and taste great with crackers.... even if outdated. I'd suggest we never allow ourselves to become distressed...even if only a little bit.... over how or what other people do, live, or exist. The reason for that is because it is better for our own personal wellbeing and mental health not to live as if others will suffer a worse fate than those who manage to rotate canned goods or give them away.

Iodine tablets and not having them on hand? Now that is a concern considering what I've been hearing regarding whether or not radiation from Japan's damaged nuclear energy facility. Some say the crisis is deepening...others say it isn't as bad as it seems.

MMB · « **Reply #23 on:** Mar 15, 11, 12:08:35 PM »

I make wine every now and then and have discovered most fruit ferments even in cans...the explosion is a cause of trapped and expanding CO2. Therefore...I would not use cans for survival that have "pull open" tabs. The ones I'd use would require the inconvenience of a can opener. When "surviving;" the fun part for mind and body is to get that can open, without a can opener.

Wrightwood · « **Reply #24 on:** Mar 15, 11, 02:57:47 PM »

"On a scale of one to 10, with 10 being the most prepared and zero being the worst-prepared ever, you can put Haiti at zero, you can put Japan at eight and you can put the U.S. at five," said Erwann Michel-Kerjan, managing director of the Risk Management and Decision Processes Center at the Wharton School.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/15/disaster.preps/index.html?hpt=C1

Calindy · « **Reply #25 on:** Mar 15, 11, 03:47:09 PM »

The one thing that stands out is the absence of looting. Instead of looting, they are helping one another. Being prepared here in the US, also means being able to protect your family, food, water, and such, from others that decide they should have it. This is a sad truth. I stand amazed on how the Japanese are handing this horrible tragedy....

Chesslike · « **Reply #26 on:** Mar 16, 11, 09:11:36 AM »

ChrisLynnet · « **Reply #27 on:** Mar 16, 11, 10:49:11 AM »

Aargh! The Japanese are on the front line so I understand them wanting to take it. But when did Americans turn into such "Chicken Littles?" Give me a break.

RobertW · « **Reply #28 on:** Mar 16, 11, 12:39:35 PM »

Quote from: RobertW on Mar 11, 11, 11:02:11 PM

We have very dear friends that live West of Hiroshima. I'm sure they are fine but we have not been able to contact them via the web. As I watched the "LIVE" video of what was happening I could not help to rethink whether weve done all we can to be prepared.

We've heard from our friends, Hiroki and Izumi. They are fine. They say that what makes it even worse for the survivors is the bitter COLD. It is still winter in Japan and snow is predicted for today and tomorrow and so many have no homes to go to and are out on the streets.

Looks like a Parka and blankets should be apart of my Earthquake kit, just in case I can't back into the main building.

Nolena · « **Reply #29 on:** Mar 17, 11, 07:44:17 AM »

I wonder where all of the runoff from the water applied to the reactors is going.
Also, in wildland firefighting, lots of the water from helicopter drops is lost in the wind before it has a chance to reach the fire. I wonder about the effectiveness of this method for the reactors.
Here is a link (via the New York Times) to an interactive United Nations projection of plume movement. Note that the forecast does NOT show actual levels of radiation.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/03/16/science/plume-graphic.html?ref=science

Chesslike · « **Reply #30 on:** Mar 17, 11, 08:00:20 AM »

UN: Radioactive Plume Could Come to SoCal By Friday
The plume will lose radioactive force as it travels.
Watch Cheryl Getuiza's report.

KTLA News

4:18 a.m. PDT, March 17, 2011

LOS ANGELES (KTLA) -- The United Nations projected Wednesday that the radioactive plume coming from failed Japanese reactors could come to across the Pacific by the end of the week.

The forecast explained that the plume will lose radioactive force as it travels and may not even be detectable by the time it reaches Southern California.

The projection, made by the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty Organization in Vienna, is based on patterns of Pacific winds and gives no information about actual radiation levels. It is likely to change if the weather shifts over the next few days.

The Chernobyl disaster in 1986 also made its way to the West Coast in 10 days, but radiation levels were too low to register.

In the case that the plumes do make it ashore, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has said it will deploy additional electronic monitors to measure radiation levels in the air.

The monitors, which detect gamma radiation and radioactive particles, will be set up in "parts of the Western U.S. and U.S. territories," the agency said in a statement.

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But the agency is refusing to say exactly where those monitors will be placed.

The EPA has 124 air monitors, which provide hourly readings, already in place in its "Rad-Net" system to measure radiation.

There are already 12 stationed across California, including Los Angeles, Riverside, Anaheim, San Bernardino and San Diego.

Many of these sampling stations have been in place since the 1950s.

The monitoring system was upgraded in the wake of 9/11.

For a live look at a radiation monitor at the offices of Enviroreporter.com in Santa Monica log into http://www.enviroreporter.com/

http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-local-radiation-monitors,0,2685193.story

KathySC · « **Reply #31 on:** Mar 17, 11, 08:44:19 AM »

Frankly I don't think you can rely on the government protecting you from something like this. I can only imagine how those poor people in Japan feel being told to stay inside and shut off their ventilation systems - reminds me of the bomb drills we had in elementary school ducking under the desk and covering our head.

I'm going to assume we are far enough away that anything will be diluted sufficiently. If they tell us to stay inside I think I will want to start driving east.

MojaveSidecar · « **Reply #32 on:** Mar 17, 11, 11:34:27 AM »

Quote from: KathySC on Mar 17, 11, 08:44:19 AM

Frankly I don't think you can rely on the government protecting you from something like this. I can only imagine how those poor people in Japan feel being told to stay inside and shut off their ventilation systems - reminds me of the bomb drills we had in elementary school ducking under the desk and covering our head.

I'm going to assume we are far enough away that anything will be diluted sufficiently. If they tell us to stay inside I think I will want to start driving east.

I think I will head south

... radiation looks like it will keep blowing east.

KathySC · « **Reply #33 on:** Mar 17, 11, 11:50:46 AM »

Better plan. Of course I don't really want to go to Mexico right now. So I guess it's San Diego

MMB · « **Reply #34 on:** Mar 18, 11, 08:00:51 AM »

I think I was drinking radioactive beer last night. It was all green.

Just kidding folks... I have to go to school today. No time for anxiety right now... maybe tonight. Know that my wife and I love you guys. Peace!

KathySC · « **Reply #35 on:** Mar 18, 11, 09:42:15 AM »

I followed a link from one of the links someone posted on here and thought I would share it http://georneys.blogspot.com/2011/03/conversation-with-my-dad-nuclear.html

This is a blog run by a Geology student and she has interviewed her father several times - he is a nuclear engineer - about his perception of what is occuring in Japan.

Wrightwood · « **Reply #36 on:** Mar 18, 11, 10:13:11 AM »

KathySC thanks for a very interesting blog

MMB · « **Reply #37 on:** Mar 19, 11, 08:56:40 AM »

Retired Commander Mark Mervine is the man! I read and listened to the wealth of knowledge.

Wrightwood · « **Reply #38 on:** Mar 23, 11, 12:37:05 PM »

Family Preparedness can't be over emphasized.
Having emergency water stored is critical during disasters.

2:59 a.m. Thursday in Tokyo
Despite being urged not to hoard bottled water, residents of Japan's capital snapped it up after tests showed radioactive iodine in tap water at levels unsafe for infants. The city's water agency said the spike was likely caused by problems at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, located 240 kilometers (150 miles) away. Tokyo officials earlier advised against giving tap water to infants. Grocery store owner Seiji Sasaki said he noted a sudden increase of customers. He had 40 cases of water in his store, but they were gone quickly.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/23/japan-quake-live-blog-tap-water-in-tokyo-unsafe-for-infants/?hpt=T2

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/23/japan.nuclear.crisis/index.html?hpt=T2

Calindy · « **Reply #39 on:** Mar 27, 11, 03:31:03 PM »

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