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Offline Nolena

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Re: Local Hunting
« Reply #80 on: Dec 09, 06, 11:23:51 AM »
I think that factory farming is often much more cruel than hunting.
We're just divorced from the reality of where meat comes from.

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Re: Local Hunting
« Reply #81 on: Dec 09, 06, 04:42:28 PM »
Most people don't realize how our food get to the table. I am neither for nor against hunting but when compared to commercial meat it is important to know how each is obtained. As an example the following sites describe the veal industry. Please note, both of these sites were produced by people in the industry. I purposely avoided sites by the likes of PETA, etc.

http://www.ontarioveal.on.ca/all_about_veal/vealproduction.html

http://www.ontarioveal.on.ca/all_about_veal/housing.html

http://www.vealfarm.com/veal-farm-tour/index.asp

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Re: Local Hunting
« Reply #82 on: Dec 15, 06, 08:30:56 AM »

    Ted Nugent (Big Hunter Advocate) was being interviewed by a French journalist.The journalist asked,
"What
do you think the last thought is in the head of a deer before you shoot
it?
Is it, `Are you my friend?' or is it `Are you the one who killed my
brother?'"
Nugent replied, "They aren't capable of that kind of thinking.
All
they care about is, 'What am I going to eat next, who am I going to
screw
next, and can I run fast enough to get away. They are very much like the
French."

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Re: Local Hunting
« Reply #83 on: Dec 15, 06, 01:14:59 PM »
HeeHeeHee!!!!!

Gotta love Mr. Nugent! :2thumbsup:

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Re: Local Hunting
« Reply #84 on: Dec 15, 06, 01:19:30 PM »
Most people don't realize how our food get to the table. I am neither for nor against hunting but when compared to commercial meat it is important to know how each is obtained. As an example the following sites describe the veal industry. Please note, both of these sites were produced by people in the industry. I purposely avoided sites by the likes of PETA, etc.

http://www.ontarioveal.on.ca/all_about_veal/vealproduction.html

http://www.ontarioveal.on.ca/all_about_veal/housing.html

http://www.vealfarm.com/veal-farm-tour/index.asp


I refuse to eat veal. It is hideous how they keep the calves. I stopped eating chicken for a while for the same reason, but my love of the meat finally overcame my disgust of their living conditions. I try my best to only buy chicken from Henrys in Rancho as they have free range chicken there. It is not always possible, but I feel better if I support the suppliers that treat the animals in a decent manner.

At least hunted game live a natural life, which is much more humane than any meat raised for the masses.

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Re: Local Hunting
« Reply #85 on: Dec 15, 06, 02:11:44 PM »
HeeHeeHee!!!!!

Gotta love Mr. Nugent! :2thumbsup:

Ted Nugent is a horrible man.  He takes people on wolf hunts for money.  I loathe him.

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Re: Local Hunting
« Reply #86 on: Dec 15, 06, 02:17:05 PM »

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Re: Local Hunting
« Reply #87 on: Dec 15, 06, 05:38:16 PM »
Since the early 1990s Nugent has become both popular and criticized for his conservative beliefs and his anti-drug and anti-alcohol stances. He is a national spokesman for the DARE program, advocating the "natural highs" to be found in an outdoor lifestyle. He has also hosted the Ted Nugent Kamp for Kids, which combines a curriculum of hands-on hunting, conservation, archery and a strong anti-drug message aimed mainly at underprivileged inner-city children. He is also a spokesman for the National Field Archers Association, Mothers Against Drunk Driving, and Big Brothers Big Sisters of America.

Although he holds libertarian beliefs Second Amendment rights, Nugent has been outspoken in his contempt for drug abuse and drug abusers, stating that his "level of awareness" is what compelled him to "turn down the drooling, puking, dying punks with their drugs and their alcohol and tobacco," claiming to "have busted more hippies' noses than all the narcs in the free world. I hate drug abuse.

I wanted to show that he is not all bad.  When evaluating a individual you can like or dislike aspects of each individual.  I feel it is important to know all of the aspects of the individual before claiming he/she is a bad person.  People do things that I dislike everyday but it does not mean they are bad people. 

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Re: Local Hunting
« Reply #88 on: Dec 15, 06, 05:50:21 PM »
Uncle Ted for Pres. 08

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Re: Local Hunting
« Reply #89 on: Dec 15, 06, 06:36:05 PM »
I still have my two Ted Nugent albums.  I just don't have a turn table anymore.....

There are A LOT of men out there WAY worse than old Ted!  I like him a lot more now that I know he has busted hippy noses!  :wink3:

I do not advocate his sport hunting of wolves.

 

gypsywolf

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Re: Local Hunting
« Reply #90 on: Dec 15, 06, 07:31:46 PM »
rdnckgrl78,

You beat me to the punch.I did a little reading about Mr. Nugent and he seems to be the opposite of a horrible man. 

Angelwolf, how do you know this to be true?? The only thing I found when I googled "Ted Nugent wolf" was that petition. That isn't proof of anything. I looked on Snopes but didn't find anything there.

I have always admired Ted Nugent.

angelwolf326

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Re: Local Hunting
« Reply #91 on: Dec 15, 06, 08:44:55 PM »
It's all about hunting for trophies!!!

They even offer taxidermist to hang your trophies on the wall.

GREAT Guy!

http://www.tednugentsspiritwildmall.com/

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Re: Local Hunting
« Reply #92 on: Dec 15, 06, 08:49:23 PM »
It's all about hunting for trophies!!!

They even offer taxidermist to hang your trophies on the wall.

GREAT Guy!

http://www.tednugentsspiritwildmall.com/

You mean they don't eat the meat??

I find that hard to believe..do they throw the meat out?

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Re: Local Hunting
« Reply #93 on: Dec 15, 06, 08:57:34 PM »
Some of the things I found in Ted's bio:

"Keynote Speaker for Native American Fish & Wildlife Society National
Conference, Anchorage, Alaska, 1995"

"Recipient of 1999 National Arbor Day Conservation Award"

"Appointee, Michigan State Parks Foundation"

"Inducted into the Native American Strongheart Society by the Lakota Sioux,
Northern Cheyenne and Arapahoe Tribes"

"Named Man of the Year by Michigan Recreation and Parks Association"








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Re: Local Hunting
« Reply #94 on: Dec 15, 06, 09:36:47 PM »
Yes it must be real hard to hunt wild game on a RANCH that is designed for that.  What sport is that....  Kill an animal confined to a ranch to hang on your wall....

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Re: Local Hunting
« Reply #95 on: Dec 15, 06, 10:02:23 PM »
Nothing different than killing a cow and using the leather for your jacket. Or a sofa. Or your car seats.

I am speaking in general terms and not saying Angelwolf uses leather!!

I honestly don't get the difference.

I would really like to see more about the story of him and the wolves. Please share where you got this information!!

These game animals are here for us to eat, wear, etc. My guess is they live a pretty good life on the ranch before the predator (man) kills them. Much more humane than how chickens, cows, sheep etc. are raised before we kill them.




angelwolf326

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Re: Local Hunting
« Reply #96 on: Dec 15, 06, 10:24:24 PM »
Four blackbuck--sleek deer-like animals once indigenous to India and now bred for hunting throughout Texas--made spectacular ballerina leaps across the trail 20 yards in front of the ATV. They were out of season, so Nugent made a gesture as if he were shooting them with a bow.

"There's my idea of fast food," he exclaimed.
Quote from  his site.

Game animals from India BRED for hunting, how is that right?

rdnckgrl78

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Re: Local Hunting
« Reply #97 on: Dec 15, 06, 10:33:56 PM »
It's all about hunting for trophies!!!

They even offer taxidermist to hang your trophies on the wall.

GREAT Guy!

http://www.tednugentsspiritwildmall.com/

You mean they don't eat the meat??

I find that hard to believe..do they throw the meat out?

Everything I have ever read about Ted states he does not hunt only for trophies.  I wonder what would happen if no one ever hunted a wolf or a mountain lion, or a bear, or a deer, or a pig, or a etc. again....would it cause a major change in the circle of life?  Would we have more animals becoming extinct?

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Re: Local Hunting
« Reply #98 on: Dec 15, 06, 10:58:21 PM »
Here are some statements by Ted.  Too crude to post here:

http://www.nocompromise.org/news/000731c.html

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Re: Local Hunting
« Reply #99 on: Dec 15, 06, 11:18:57 PM »
Another article about this wonderful guy....  Read this thru the end, they way he talks is sick....

http://outside.away.com/outside/magazine/0398/9803nugent.html

He did offer wolf hunts on ebay for $4000 to raise money for the kids...  They were removed due to the complaints and petitions.  The kids he teaches to hunt.  Did you see the pic of the little blonde girl btw two dead bucks?  Great photo....  :(

In my opinion he is a nasty man.  That is my opinion, just as you have yours.

Have a great weekend...