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Re: Bears!
« Reply #280 on: Sep 02, 09, 06:41:56 AM »
Was that killing of the bear because it was being a "pest"?  Or do they allow bear hunting in these mountains?  Are there that many bears here that they allow hunting (with rifles, bow and arrows, dogs that tree them and then killed). My husband told me he saw the bear strapped on someones vehicle at Jensen's on Saturday, and I am thankful I did not see it. I probably would of gone ballistic.

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« Reply #281 on: Sep 02, 09, 07:05:30 AM »
Bear hunting is allowed in the forest with a hunting license and correct tags.  There are different seasons: archery, gun season, black powder season. My understanding is that dogs are not allowed to be used to flush or tree any animals.  You can use dogs to retreive (like in duck hunting).

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« Reply #282 on: Sep 02, 09, 09:44:46 AM »
Was that killing of the bear because it was being a "pest"?  Or do they allow bear hunting in these mountains?  Are there that many bears here that they allow hunting (with rifles, bow and arrows, dogs that tree them and then killed). My husband told me he saw the bear strapped on someones vehicle at Jensen's on Saturday, and I am thankful I did not see it. I probably would of gone ballistic.

That was the same bear.  It was killed by hunters who were hunting for bear and had the proper tags.  Archery season for Bear is now going on (August 15th - September 6th).  Later in the fall Bear season using rifles will be open (October 10th - December 27).  It just happened that this bear, according to the hunters, was also making itself a pest at the camp grounds in Big Rock Creek, even dragging an Ice Chest away from a camp.  It is not the reason it was killed. They told me that it was killed near the water tower above Sycamore Campground.

There are plenty of Bears in the Angeles National Forest.  If the population was on the decline, I suspect that the CDFG would not issue Bear tags.  21 Bears were killed in Los Angeles County last year.  23 in San Bernardino County.  Last year out of nearly 26,000 Bear Tags that were issued for the entire State of California, only 2,000 tags were validated. A hunter can request a refund on an unused tag.

I don't see too many people hunting for Bear.  Deer and Quail hunting is much more popular in this area.  A Bear tag runs about $40 in addition to your hunting license and only one tag a year per hunting license is allowed.

Although these hunters came to the Big Pines Ranger Station to have their tag validated, only CDFG employees may validate a Bear tag and the skull must be presented to a CDFG office/officer within 10 days of the kill.  It becomes the property of the CDFG for scientific purposes.  Usually all that is required is a tooth.  So you can see that Bear hunting is very carefully regulated here in California.

One consolation, these hunters were not just hunting Bear for the sport, but were looking forward to eating the meat.

Not being a hunter myself, I'd rather see these animals alive in their habitat, but, since working with the USFS for the past three years as a volunteer, I've come to respect those that do hunt and do so according to the laws and regulations in our forest.

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« Reply #283 on: Sep 20, 09, 08:56:43 AM »
Speaking of bears....

If you want to learn a little more about "our" black bears here on the Angeles, come on up to the Historic Big Pines Recreation Hall, at Big Pines Ranger Station (across from Mt. High West) this coming Tuesday, the 22nd at 7PM.

The Volunteers of the Angeles from Grassy Hollow Visitor Center are having a guest speaker, Kevin Copley, at their monthly meeting - who is giving a presentation on bears.

Kevin has many years of experience and research working with bears here on the Angeles, as well as Alaska. It should be a nice presentation (30-60 min) in a wonderful setting.

We have about 40 chairs, so we should be OK, but if you want to toss one in your car as backup, it might be a good idea. Park out in front of the ranger station, or across the street in the picnic area/restroom. No Adventure Pass is required.

The presentation will begin at 7PM, before the meeting. You are not obligated to stay for the meeting afterwards.. but are more than welcome to.

Hope to see you there!




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« Reply #284 on: Sep 21, 09, 12:21:22 PM »
Bear hunting is allowed in the forest with a hunting license and correct tags.  There are different seasons: archery, gun season, black powder season. My understanding is that dogs are not allowed to be used to flush or tree any animals.  You can use dogs to retreive (like in duck hunting).

Just to clear up a little bit.
 Dogs may be used to flush and/or point and/or retrieve many types of birds.
Dogs may also be used to pursue deer, pig and bear and other mammals.  There are regulations that must be followed.

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« Reply #285 on: Sep 21, 09, 12:32:54 PM »

 Last year out of nearly 26,000 Bear Tags that were issued for the entire State of California, only 2,000 tags were validated. A hunter can request a refund on an unused tag.

Just to clarify a bit.  Once the season has started a tag will not be refunded.  So, 15,000 people pay for a tag, that $ goes to the Fish and Game coffers; yet only about 1800 actually bag a bear.
(Statewide, only 15,000 tags may be sold and the season ends when 1700 kills have been reported.  Due to reporting lags the # is typically a bit higher 1418-2028 over the last ten years.)

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« Reply #286 on: Sep 22, 09, 12:43:48 PM »
BUMP... Tonight at 7 PM at the USFS Big Pines Recreation Hall!

ANF District Ranger Blount is also going to try and make it as well and may have a few words to say about the current fire conditions/closures... however, this is not a 'fire information meeting', so please don't expect that type of format.


Speaking of bears....

If you want to learn a little more about "our" black bears here on the Angeles, come on up to the Historic Big Pines Recreation Hall, at Big Pines Ranger Station (across from Mt. High West) this coming Tuesday, the 22nd at 7PM.

The Volunteers of the Angeles from Grassy Hollow Visitor Center are having a guest speaker, Kevin Copley, at their monthly meeting - who is giving a presentation on bears.

Kevin has many years of experience and research working with bears here on the Angeles, as well as Alaska. It should be a nice presentation (30-60 min) in a wonderful setting.

We have about 40 chairs, so we should be OK, but if you want to toss one in your car as backup, it might be a good idea. Park out in front of the ranger station, or across the street in the picnic area/restroom. No Adventure Pass is required.

The presentation will begin at 7PM, before the meeting. You are not obligated to stay for the meeting afterwards.. but are more than welcome to.

Hope to see you there!





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« Reply #287 on: Sep 22, 09, 09:54:50 PM »
Nice turnout tonight... thanks for coming!














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Re: Bears!
« Reply #288 on: Sep 23, 09, 05:39:48 AM »
I like the slide of the bear sitting at the picnic  :2thumbsup:table.

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Re: Bears!
« Reply #289 on: Sep 23, 09, 07:41:51 AM »
Great presentation by Kevin Copley!

Kevin expects that black bear numbers will increase in the Wrightwood area due to the Station Fire.

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« Reply #290 on: Sep 23, 09, 11:53:04 PM »
i was going to ask that about two weeks ago.

will the station fire compress animals into the wrightwood area?

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Re: Bears!
« Reply #291 on: Sep 24, 09, 01:08:19 PM »

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Re: Bears!
« Reply #292 on: Sep 24, 09, 01:25:49 PM »
I think some people should stick to fishing in the stocked ponds at suburban parks. . . ::)

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« Reply #293 on: Sep 24, 09, 02:54:49 PM »
If he had time to go "back to a vehicle for his weapon," it is hardly self defense.

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Re: Bears!
« Reply #294 on: Sep 29, 09, 09:50:10 PM »
Bear gets trapped in Mount Baldy home; wildlife encroachment increases due to fires, drought!

http://bit.ly/459emo

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« Reply #295 on: Oct 13, 09, 03:30:51 PM »
Bear gets trapped in Mount Baldy home; wildlife encroachment increases due to fires, drought!

http://bit.ly/459emo
The owner of that home taught at my Junior High School.  He's still "Mr. Brant" to me...though I've never really met him.  I think his wife used to show up for x-mas w/ our family.  He's got quite the little spread up there under the trees with what I imagine is one hell of a view out the front windows.  I don't think he's all that concerned with defenseable space :) .  I'll respect his privacy and not post where that is/was, but it's on the outskirts of the village.

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« Reply #296 on: Mar 04, 10, 02:36:39 PM »
Bear poop on Partridge and Acorn today.  Guess it's getting to be spring.

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Re: Bears!
« Reply #297 on: Mar 04, 10, 02:38:46 PM »
Guess so! I was just telling my son that I would love to see a bear from the safety of my own house. On the trail? Not so much!  :o


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« Reply #299 on: Jun 07, 10, 11:09:54 AM »

 

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