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Offline K9luvr

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Re: It's about time for a bicycle/mtn bike thread!
« Reply #100 on: Apr 23, 06, 10:14:34 PM »
What are other people building or buying?

That is what I need some advice on...  I have been out of hiking commission for almost a year (long story) and because of recovering from some ankle surgery, need to find a way to get some non-impact aerobic workouts.  I haven't been on a bike in over 5 years, and haven't done any real mountain biking.  So, we are talking about someone who is 50 lbs overweight, out of shape (the only time I was in worse shape than I am right now is when I had pneumonia and couldn't walk across the room without getting winded).  I know I have to start out slow and easy.  But what to buy?  I can't afford a really expensive bike, and with the riding I plan on doing, it would probably be a waste of technology.  But I want something that will do me in the future as I get into better shape and want to tackle some tougher terrain.  Any advice?  Your talking to a real novice here and I don't know where or how to get started.  :-\

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« Reply #101 on: Apr 23, 06, 10:24:34 PM »
Here is a really good one if you don't want to get hurt K9:


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Re: It's about time for a bicycle/mtn bike thread!
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Re: It's about time for a bicycle/mtn bike thread!
« Reply #103 on: Apr 23, 06, 10:43:39 PM »
Here is a really good one if you don't want to get hurt K9:



Just for that one Mr. Smarty Pants---"may the fleas of a thousand camels invade your armpits!"

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Re: It's about time for a bicycle/mtn bike thread!
« Reply #104 on: Apr 24, 06, 03:04:52 AM »
That is what I need some advice on...  I have been out of hiking commission for almost a year (long story) and because of recovering from some ankle surgery, need to find a way to get some non-impact aerobic workouts.  I haven't been on a bike in over 5 years, and haven't done any real mountain biking.  So, we are talking about someone who is 50 lbs overweight, out of shape (the only time I was in worse shape than I am right now is when I had pneumonia and couldn't walk across the room without getting winded).  I know I have to start out slow and easy.  But what to buy?  I can't afford a really expensive bike, and with the riding I plan on doing, it would probably be a waste of technology.  But I want something that will do me in the future as I get into better shape and want to tackle some tougher terrain.  Any advice?  Your talking to a real novice here and I don't know where or how to get started.  :-\

Here's a good webpage that goes over the different types of bikes available:  http://nbda.com/page.cfm?PageID=63

For someone just starting out, I'd recommend a hybrid bike, which is good for both pavement and dirt.  It will even handle smooth dirt fire roads OK, although I wouldn't take it down a narrow rocky singletrack trail.  Or you could go for a mountain bike, but some people starting out don't like to lean over as much.

The problem with just starting out and being in WW is that there's not a flat spot in town!   Luckily, bikes now come with much lower gears than they used to.  Most hybrids and mountain bikes should come with a triple chainring in front (as opposed to a double).  That gives you a wider range of gears that would let you shift to a low enough gear to go up hills at almost walking speed if you had to.

For starters, I'd suggest driving halfway up Table Mountain Road and doing a ride out on the (relatively) flat paved road past the locked gate.

I'm not familiar with the nearest bike shops down the hill, so I can't help there.

Hope this helps, and good luck.

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Re: It's about time for a bicycle/mtn bike thread!
« Reply #105 on: Apr 24, 06, 02:58:22 PM »
What are other people building or buying?

That is what I need some advice on...  I have been out of hiking commission for almost a year (long story) and because of recovering from some ankle surgery, need to find a way to get some non-impact aerobic workouts.  I haven't been on a bike in over 5 years, and haven't done any real mountain biking.  So, we are talking about someone who is 50 lbs overweight, out of shape (the only time I was in worse shape than I am right now is when I had pneumonia and couldn't walk across the room without getting winded).  I know I have to start out slow and easy.  But what to buy?  I can't afford a really expensive bike, and with the riding I plan on doing, it would probably be a waste of technology.  But I want something that will do me in the future as I get into better shape and want to tackle some tougher terrain.  Any advice?  Your talking to a real novice here and I don't know where or how to get started.  :-\

K9,

I'll second the recommendation of Coates - they are the only store I really have been pleased with.

You really need to figure out a budget for this.  If you want a pretty decent bike but have a low budget, used is the way to go.  You can get *very* nice bikes used for $100-$500.  You can also get serviceable new bikes in the $300 range.  It depends on your needs and commitment.  Brian is absolutely right about the grades here.  The flattest extended ride in the WW area is the rolling paved road at Table Top Mnt, and the longest section of flattish streets in town are some of the East-West streets, and most of them are not flat.

That means you need a triple with a chainring in front that's at most 26 teeth, and preferable a cassette in back with a bailout cog of 32-34 teeth.  Even if you really ride this bike and get stronger, your first times going up streets like Sheep Creek may require a very low gear.  Heck, I'm a pretty strong rider and sometimes I'm plain tired out and want something very low.

Brian recommends a hybrid, and my only concern with hybrids are they tend to come with useless seats and are designed with the disadvantages of a road bike and a mountain bike, and few of the advantages.  On the other hand, the market is offering better and better alternatives finally after a decade and more of poor options.

If you are in your 50s and out of shape, then you should find a bike with a comfortable position and wide range gearing.  Most inexpensive new bikes that accomodate these needs have two main drawbacks - they come with flat mountain bike bars and they have Gel/squishy saddles, with seem to a newbie like a good idea but they give absolutely no support for the important parts of your behind.  A harder but wide and contoured saddle is far better.  The flat bars offer you only one hand position, which can be very hard on your wrists.

REI has some interesting bikes that you might want to look at, even when they exceed your price range.  They can serve as a model, and there is an REI in Rancho.  The Safari, the Transfer, the Randonee, the Buzz, and a few others are worth a look.  I like the Randonee and Safari because they are equipped to be comfortable for long rides, and come with handlebars with multiple positions.

You will here all sorts of conflicting advice and hype at different shops, and even in the same shop by different people.  It's a frustrating but inescapable part of buying a new bike.  I do think Coates is better, usually, and there are some people at REI who know what they are doing.  Just go in knowing some of the fundamental things you need, and don't stray from them.  In WW,  very few people ride and I suppose it is mainly a matter of the road grades.  I see most people out on mountain bikes with wide knobby tires that do not leave the asphalt, and I think that maybe more would ride if they had parts that better suited their intended purposes.

good luck. 

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Re: It's about time for a bicycle/mtn bike thread!
« Reply #106 on: Apr 24, 06, 07:37:55 PM »
Hey Steelcommuter,

Maybe we can get together this summer and ride till our legs fall off?

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Re: It's about time for a bicycle/mtn bike thread!
« Reply #107 on: Apr 24, 06, 08:00:30 PM »

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« Reply #108 on: Apr 24, 06, 11:45:26 PM »
Hey Steelcommuter,

Maybe we can get together this summer and ride till our legs fall off?

Sorry Chuck, but you'll be home with the baby. It's my turn to have my legs fall off.  :P :-*

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« Reply #109 on: Apr 24, 06, 11:54:33 PM »
Hey Steelcommuter,

Maybe we can get together this summer and ride till our legs fall off?

OK, but only if we promise not to use our brakes on the descents   :'(

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« Reply #110 on: Apr 24, 06, 11:57:07 PM »
Hey Steelcommuter,

Maybe we can get together this summer and ride till our legs fall off?

Sorry Chuck, but you'll be home with the baby. It's my turn to have my legs fall off.  :P :-*

We'll just put her in my saddlebag.  Then we can all go.  It's warm and cozy in there, except for the tire levers.  Hey, what am I doing?  I have midterms to grade!

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Re: It's about time for a bicycle/mtn bike thread!
« Reply #111 on: Apr 25, 06, 03:52:24 AM »
Brian recommends a hybrid, and my only concern with hybrids are they tend to come with useless seats and are designed with the disadvantages of a road bike and a mountain bike, and few of the advantages.  On the other hand, the market is offering better and better alternatives finally after a decade and more of poor options.

For people who don't know what they want and aren't sure what kind of riding they want to do, I tend to recommend a hybrid.  I've seen many people go into a bike shop not knowing what they want, so the shop steers them towards a mountain bike.  Then the new bike buyer decides he wants to use the bike on the paved bike trail most of the time, for which a mountain bike is overkill.

But if you absolutely know that you want a road bike or a mountain bike, then I say go with either of those rather than a hybrid.

A friend of mine has the Buzz from REI, and he really likes it.  Even though it's marketed as a "commuter" or "urban" bike, I consider it a hybrid of sorts.

I also agree with SteelCommuter's post.

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Re: It's about time for a bicycle/mtn bike thread!
« Reply #112 on: Apr 25, 06, 03:57:26 AM »
Great photo's of your little one Brian.  I always wanted to buy one of those trailers.  I did buy one of those child seats that attach to the back of my bike.  My 2 year old still fits in it, and I just got my 5 year old to ride without her training wheels.  I am looking forward to warmer weather so we can go on some family rides.

Glad you enjoyed the photos!  Those trailers aren't cheap new, my Burley d'Lite would have cost $429 (!) if I bought it new.  I got mine on Ebay from someone in Claremont for about $80.  Burley stocks spare parts even for their old trailers, which is why I can get an upgraded seat with better straps, and I can even replace the fabric on the sides when it wears out.

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« Reply #113 on: May 04, 06, 06:32:37 PM »
anyone ridden the single track which is off to the side of the Table Mountain paved road? at the point where it crosses the paved road, it continues down into the canyon, in the direction of SH2 somewhere near mountain high. i tried to find the place where it meets the 2 but can't. anyone know the location.   i've ridden it from the paved road at the crossing continuing in a westerly direction, ending at the corral. but haven't ridden the lower part. i don't want to start down and end up in private property. i'd like to start from the 2 and ride up.

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« Reply #114 on: May 05, 06, 02:17:48 PM »
I have heard of others who have ridden that trail, ezzpete. I am just getting out my bike and trying it out again, after winter!!
I rode up Highway 2 the other day, and was glad to make it to Mt.High West...!

Gotta start somewhere, I guess.

my butt got numb, and I forgot to clip out my foot, and tipped over on the highway.! but it was only a flesh wound, so I kept on riding..
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Re: It's about time for a bicycle/mtn bike thread!
« Reply #115 on: May 06, 06, 04:34:12 AM »
my butt got numb, and I forgot to clip out my foot, and tipped over on the highway.! but it was only a flesh wound, so I kept on riding..
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Ooo, that's embarassing.....  Never done that myself    ;D

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Re: It's about time for a bicycle/mtn bike thread!
« Reply #116 on: May 06, 06, 04:37:48 AM »
anyone ridden the single track which is off to the side of the Table Mountain paved road? at the point where it crosses the paved road, it continues down into the canyon, in the direction of SH2 somewhere near mountain high. i tried to find the place where it meets the 2 but can't. anyone know the location.   i've ridden it from the paved road at the crossing continuing in a westerly direction, ending at the corral. but haven't ridden the lower part. i don't want to start down and end up in private property. i'd like to start from the 2 and ride up.

I've tried hiking up the trail from Rivera to find where it meets the paved gated road .... but then I gave up because it was a bit further (OK, maybe a lot further) than I originally thought, so I turned around walked back home.

Then I tried riding to the end of paved gated road and tried to find a trail that went to Rivera ... but I just found a bunch of dead ends.

I know what trail you're talking about, but I don't know where it meets the highway ... would be curious if anyone else knew.

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« Reply #117 on: May 07, 06, 03:30:39 AM »
I've done that section, all though it's been awhile.  You can get down to 2, and if I recall there are some switchbacks.  It's not much riding, though, but gives you something different to do.

One of the rides I plan on doing when I get back to CA is the singletrack and doubletrack trail that extends from the Grassy Hollow road to Big Pines highway about 1/2 mile from its intersection with Hwy 2.  Short fun ride.

Hey Robilin, that sucks about forgetting about being clipped in.  It happens.  I stopped using them a while ago when I decided I was tired of having to put on special shoes, especially since I commute by bike.  In the summer, I just wear my Chacos  :)

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« Reply #118 on: May 07, 06, 03:20:42 PM »
yeah, i went down it yesterday. it's probably around one mile. looks like lots of bikers know about it, because there were bike tracks. the bottom section looks like someone has been doing some very meticulous trail maintanance.

going back up showed me just how out of shape i am. could have done it in my bike riding prime, but this time there were some hike-a-bike sections.






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« Reply #119 on: May 07, 06, 06:31:41 PM »
We are thinking about riding the Jackson lake trail tomorrow (monday). It is a day off for husband. We will see how out of shape we are in!

definitly won't clip in on that trip! unless it is a long uphill.