Author Topic: Angeles National Forest News! (Read 394274 times)

RobertW · « **Reply #220 on:** Sep 08, 16, 01:44:34 PM »

Campfire rings will be bagged and covered with signage alerting the public. Concession Campground campers will be notified by the camp hosts. And as always we suggest that forest visitors check the USFS "Know before you go" website before visiting the forest.

Elk · « **Reply #221 on:** Sep 08, 16, 02:19:40 PM »

Quote from: RobertW on Sep 08, 16, 12:30:01 PM

CAMPFIRES ARE NO LONGER ALLOWED IN THE ANGELES NATIONAL FOREST!

Personally, I am surprised this did not come sooner.

Joe Schmoe · « **Reply #222 on:** Sep 08, 16, 02:37:39 PM »

As am I. With all of the commentary about the surprising nature of the Blue Cut fire I thought that would result a realization that we are in an exceptional, perhaps unprecedented, situation. If you have watched closely, vegetation seems confused about what season it is in. A year or two ago many cottonwood trees didn't even behave as if there was a winter. They stayed green throughout, then lost some of their leaves in the spring IIRC. This year, I see many plants behaving as if fall arrived a month or two ago, starting to drop leaves but not turning yellow. Maybe a response to summer heat, but I think plants are confused regarding what season it is.

Anyhow given the number of fires since I actually thought we would see a full closure of forest as we saw after whatever that record fire was about 10 years ago. Still, I think OHV areas and vehicle trails should be closed. It doesn't take much for a bike or quad to knock a couple rocks together, or maybe have another mechanical issue and create a spark.

Easy for me to armchair quarterback though - I don't have to deal with running the balance in the forest.

Wrightwood · « **Reply #223 on:** Sep 08, 16, 02:40:43 PM »

No Golfing Joe

Wrightwood · « **Reply #224 on:** Sep 09, 16, 09:29:34 PM »

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The Fire Danger Level is Extreme - That means no building, maintaining, or using a fire, campfire (even in a fire ring) or bbq stove.

ForestGal · « **Reply #225 on:** Sep 09, 16, 10:33:22 PM »

Just curious, what about a backyard propane BBQ grill on a completely clean concrete patio, with lots of clearance and stone retaining walls nearby?

Jim Wilkins · « **Reply #226 on:** Sep 10, 16, 08:43:40 AM »

Although you are surrounded by forest, you are perfectly fine having a gas BBQ. I am pretty sure the restriction is on BBQ's that use some sort of fuel like briquets that can give off sparks when it burns.

In the 70's, you had to come into the WW fire station and get a BBQ permit. We would come out to your house and look at where you were set up and how the clearance was. That was the days of briquets and I don't remember too many gas outfits. You are just fine and I have it on good authority, you are prone to act responsibly.

SpeedRacer · « **Reply #227 on:** Sep 10, 16, 12:06:34 PM »

...and charcoal?

ForestGal · « **Reply #228 on:** Sep 10, 16, 12:15:02 PM »

Thanks, Jim.

I remember having to get BBQ permits years ago, as I started coming to WW as a weekender in 1965 and have lived here full time since 1977. With this new restriction because of the drought, I just wanted to double check.

Jim Wilkins · « **Reply #229 on:** Sep 10, 16, 12:29:37 PM »

Quote from: SpeedRacer on Sep 10, 16, 12:06:34 PM

...and charcoal?

Charcoal is simply fuel in preburned form. We ignite it with paper or lighter fluid. It throws sparks and when dumped on the ground, will remain burning for hours and flare up in the wind. You have to remember, 90% of wild fires are caused by man. Cooking fires of any sort are a leading cause. Mike and Robert have seen hundreds of these left burning in makeshift fire rings in their duties patrolling on the Angeles. Frankly, conditions now are worse then the last time they closed the entire forest to any recreation few years back. Won't be surprised if that isn't considered sooner then later.

RobertW · « **Reply #230 on:** Feb 01, 17, 08:16:28 AM »

Now that the Big Pine Ranger Station Facebook Page has been shut down, all Big Pines related information that was previously shared on that page will now be presented on the official "Angeles National Forest - San Gabriel Mountains National Monument", government sanctioned Facebook Page. Check it out and "follow":

https://www.facebook.com/angelesnationalforest/

in my dreams · « **Reply #231 on:** Feb 01, 17, 11:27:05 PM »

Who shut it down? I can guess, but that's all it would be.

RobertW · « **Reply #232 on:** Feb 02, 17, 07:46:53 AM »

Quote from: in my dreams on Feb 01, 17, 11:27:05 PM

Who shut it down? I can guess, but that's all it would be.

The Big Pines Ranger Station Facebook Page was not an officially sanctioned USFS page, though the Admins either worked for or volunteered for the Forest Service. Many people thought it was an official USFS page even though it stated in the disclaimer that it wasn't. A communique came down from the Washington and Regional Offices of the USFS that all information disseminated to the media and the public should be done through official government sanctioned sites on Facebook and Twitter. Each National Forest has an official Facebook Page and Twitter account. During the administration transition there was a stand down on all social media emanating from the USFS and they didn't want posts going out to the public from sites that appeared to be official government sites but weren't. That stand down has now been lifted and things are now back to normal.

The Admins of the BP page were asked to either shut down the page to avoid confusion or to change the splash screen to make it very clear it was NOT an official USFS Facebook Page. Since the Admins of the official "Angeles National Forest - San Gabriel Mountains National Monument" Facebook page enjoyed the posts on the BP page and acknowledged that our part of the forest needed the attention that the BP page was giving it, they invited the Admins of the BP Page to become Admins on the official site and to continue the posts there.

This affected other unofficial Facebook pages as well including those run by Hotshot Crews and other USFS Fire personnel. So those pages have been renamed to ALT ... sites or make it very clear they are not officially associated with the USFS. The Admins for the Big Pines Ranger Station Facebook Page felt it was just easier to move over to the official site.

Joe Schmoe · « **Reply #233 on:** Feb 02, 17, 08:58:35 PM »

Well isn't that just........."great".

Wrightwood · « **Reply #234 on:** Feb 15, 17, 11:01:49 AM »

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Wrightwood · « **Reply #235 on:** Dec 21, 17, 07:09:04 PM »

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Want to wish you a happy holiday season. Please note, that our offices will be closed on Christmas and New Year's Day. See graphic for visitor center hours.

Wrightwood · « **Reply #236 on:** Jan 12, 18, 10:48:06 AM »

Wrightwood · « **Reply #237 on:** Jan 20, 18, 08:20:07 AM »

With the government shut down how is the San Gabriel Mountains National Monument impacted?

Elk · « **Reply #238 on:** Jan 20, 18, 09:39:54 AM »

Quote from: Wrightwood on Jan 20, 18, 08:20:07 AM

With the government shut down how is the San Gabriel Mountains National Monument impacted?

This is the statement on the banner across the top of the ANF/SGMNM website this morning.

This USDA website will not be updated during a lapse in federal funding. Content on this website will not be current or maintained until funding issues have been resolved. However, if there is information that affects security, life, and property, this website will continue to update that information during a funding lapse

From what I understand, only Fire and Law Enforcement activities will continue during the government shutdown.

lcadder · « **Reply #239 on:** Jan 20, 18, 09:47:52 AM »

all volunteer activity is stopped because of the shut down. Grassy Hollow will not be able to reopen this weekend.