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I am watching the weather channel and they are all complaining about not enough cell towers (portable) are up. Then I saw the scroll on the bottom of the screen stating the cell towers that are up are about to go off as they are running out of generator fuel. Seems to me this would be a great time for the HAM radios. The announcer was so frustrated (Jim Cantorre) that his cell phone will not work (I can imagine all the people in that area going crazy without their cellphone for the first time in their lives)! So maybe TV News and The Weather Channel need to learn to be HAMS!!

We now have a whole generation that depend on cell phones, some are learning in major disasters, the cell phone is not that dependable (I can just see some of them just staring at their cell phone begging it to work).  HAM radio operators I bet are very busy on the East Coast, and you never hear a thing about what they contribute during major disasters! I appreciate what they are doing!!

Thoughts?????

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As I understand the rules, it would mot be legal for them to use the HAM band to conduct work.  However, there are commercial bands, where they could operate legally.

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F.C.C. Details Cellphone Problems
« Reply #2 on: Oct 31, 12, 10:41:37 AM »

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radio amateurs who want to volunteer - Hurricane Sandy
« Reply #3 on: Oct 31, 12, 10:43:39 AM »

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If nothing else, the disaster in NY/NJ and points beyond should tell us how critically important communications are in a disaster. I do have emergency radios that can be hand-cranked if the batteries run down. I also have an emergency radio that can plug into HAM channels.. I likely need a certification for that.. but at least I can listen I think.

It does seem like the WW CERT is well organized to go block to block and has a number of HAM operators. I live in P.H. I will be on my own in an emergency.. aside from the kindness of neighbors. I do know where a HAM operator lives here and if all else fails.. could likely ride a horse over there.
(She says with momentary bravado.)   But, really.. communication is, in my opinion, the key to obtaining information and understanding how stranded you may be.  I have a cell and a land line.  If all goes out.. I'll just be guessing in the wind or snow as to what to do next. cheryl o7o 

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Public Safety online radio traffic

FDNY Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Queens, and Staten Island
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=9358

NYPD Manhattan 1st, 5th, and 7th Pcts
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?feedId=12345

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Sandy knocks out 25% of cell service in its path
« Reply #6 on: Oct 31, 12, 01:34:22 PM »


Verizon shot this photo Monday night in the lobby of one of its primary Lower Manhattan facilities.

 NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- A quarter of cell towers, broadband Internet and television services in Superstorm Sandy's path were still dark Wednesday.

Wireless carriers reported to the Federal Communications Commission that 25% of cell sites in the core area affected by the storm -- 158 counties across 10 states, from Virginia all the way up to Massachusetts -- remained non-operational.

Cell service will get worse before it gets better, FCC commissioner Julius Genachowski said in a conference call with the press. Millions in the storm-affected regions still are without power, and cell towers in those locations are cut off from the grid. Those towers have been running on backup battery power, fueled by generators. But in many flooded locations, the generators are unreachable, and the towers will go dark once their batteries die.

The FCC said it couldn't provide an exact estimate for how many customers remained without cell service.

More: http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/31/technology/mobile/sandy-cell-service-outages/index.html?hpt=hp_t1


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John, I think it's time to post the graphic on the back of the WW Communications Group T-Shirt ;D

Which reminds me, I need to get serious on back-up power, solar cells, generator, etc...

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This is exactly why hams use clam shell battery packs that work on AA batteries


East Village residents charge their phones with power from a generator on Wednesday


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If you can find a cell tower that works
Fire-Powered Cell Phone Charger
http://www.rsvlts.com/2012/11/02/biolite-fire-powered-cell-phone-charger/

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Don't cringe too much at the $130 price.  A decent backpacking stove that runs on butane gas starts at around $100, and goes up from there.

The stove was also highlighted in the latest issue of Scouting magazine (for adult Scout leaders).

This stove will burn any flammable material (i.e. wood, paper, cardboard, etc) and also provides a charger?  Seems like a good idea to me!

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Love the Fire stove to charge a cell phone.  Never heard of that!

I bought two connecting solar panels and power storage unit from Costco.  The storage unit powers any type of device (AC and DC outlets) and has a USB port.  I also bought the LED lights for it.  The lights can be on for 50 hours without a recharge.  Super easy to set up and use. 

By the way.  If all cell phone towers are out, I found out that if you put your cell phone in 'airplane' mode, the battery lasts an amazing long time. 

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Looking at the Costco website, I don't see anything like that system, only the larger solar panels and installation kits. 

This seems to be a different thing entirely. Would you provide some details on this, please?

 

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