Hot water question

[Leftfield]

One way to get into hot water real quick is to forget about your better half this coming Sunday when Mother's Day shows up. 

[Jirka]

[sage]

Thanks for your reply Jirka! Maybe I will try to call them and find out how it would help with a tankless water heater because there is no storage for the water.  Sounds like a great investment.  Anything to help conserve water!

[MountainGrizzly]

The diagram on the Chilli Pepper website shows a direct connection under the sink from Hot to Cold water through the chilli pepper pump.  It doesn't pump the water all the way back to the water heater.  Rather, it pumps it into the cold water line at the location where it is installed.  If the pressure coming out of the Chilli Pepper is higher than the Cold Water line pressure, water flows from the hot side to the cold side.  Since the amount coming out of the hot line (hopefully) equals the amount going into the cold line, the 2 flows will cancel each other out at the water heater inlet (tankless or tank) and no water flow from the water company is needed.

[MountainGrizzly]

Regarding size:

I got the larger Bosch unit, which can heat 6 Gpm from 40 to 140 F.  it has a computer to adjust the amount of heat based upon demand.  It works well on cold winter days.  I installed a full 3/4 inch gas line right to the unit, as recomended.  The Bosch unit cranks.  I took it apart last winter while I put some drywall in.  I have a water softener installed in line with it.  When I looked into it, it was relatively clean.

[GARY]

Tankless sounds like way too much trouble, to me.

[lagomorphmom]

Tankless may or may not be more work to install, but works great, especially if your pipes have good insulation so you're not losing heat to warming up the pipes.

Our first 'non-heater' gas bill was 1/4 that of last year.

[tach18k]

Does anyone have a receommendation to fix my water softener? YoMama does not work on them. Thanks.

what type do you have?

[tach18k]

Boston Bob's commment is correct, the instant hot water is instant at the unit itself, then drops off as the hot water runs through the house, Installing a recirculating line will help if installed correctly. A house of 2-3 this unit when installed correctly would be OK. 4 or more and the recovery time may start to suffer. A unit running for an hour running hot water may tend to fade away as the recover starts to diminish, odd as it seems it is correct. In apartments they uses a type of heater with a return line the and heater is more along the line of a pool heater. Cost affective...? I would rather buy a new 50gal $200 water heater every 7- ten years. Can you get that savings on an instant heater??? Guessing no repair cost for a 5 year warranty unit, would cost 12 cents per day for 5 years for the purchase of the heater.

[SkierBob]

I would rather buy a new 50gal $200 water heater every 7- ten years. Can you get that savings on an instant heater???

Plus like Clint previously mentioned the water heater has 50 gallons of drinkable water  in the event of a disaster.  Wish I would have thought about that before drinking out of the toilet.

[lagomorphmom]

[tach18k]

Perhaps one can get a 50gal water heater for $200 (if so, you should pick up a bunch and resell them if you need some extra cash ;-) but HD & Lowes start around $400 and go up, up and away.

Yes I did not check the latest prices, I was using a figure from 5 years ago and mine was $200 or so. They also all now come with a 6 year warranty. 12 year is doubel the price, go figure.