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Offline Mrs. Hillbilly

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Re: Gridlock and snow play craziness
« Reply #1380 on: Apr 14, 12, 05:28:52 PM »
Ha ha.  I just realized I could check it with the mtnhardware cam.  Surprised it's not jammed up right now.  Maybe it will be later as people are hanging out longer cuz of the longer days...

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Re: Gridlock and snow play craziness
« Reply #1381 on: Dec 26, 12, 06:18:53 PM »
Traffic Projections for Dec 28th 2012 to Jan 1st 2013

The Mountain High / Big Pines area will be heavily congested starting on December 28th, 2012 until January 1st, 2013.
Mountain High Resort has hired CHP officers during this time period to help with traffic flow and illegal parking.
On Saturday December 29th snowfall may be an issue!!
 
Happy Holidays to all !!!!
Paul Bauer
Mountain High Resort

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Re: Gridlock and snow play craziness
« Reply #1382 on: Dec 27, 12, 05:31:10 PM »
A real shame that Caltrans does not understand or apparently care or appreciate what happens at the stop signs during our winter periods.  Forcing Mountain High and CHP (or others) to spend money rather than find a proper solution is disgusting.  This weekend should be a rude awakening to many not aware of this situation.  This will be the first real test since implementation in 2011.  The snow we  have is  minimal but much different than last year.

If what we expect happens this weekend, and you are impacted in the many ways we expect it to, complain to Caltrans.

It's not just the stop sign area, they will be taking all the residential streets to bypass the stop sign and find snow anywhere, your house may be close enough for them.     

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Re: Snow players invade Wrightwood
« Reply #1383 on: Jan 01, 13, 05:15:06 PM »
I went to the gas station this afternoon and on my way back I see about 9 people playing in the yard of a house that is for rent on Apple (right above the school) ~ do these people think that because the house is vacant, they are free to play there  ??? I tried calling the rental number posted but only go a voicemail. I just don't get it  :(

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Re: Snow players invade Wrightwood
« Reply #1384 on: Jan 04, 13, 07:38:36 AM »
I believe the CHP needs to review their closer procedures. It's to late when it becomes like this. Even worse if weather is a factor, as we've already seen.











Then it spills over to our side streets creating more constipation in the area.



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Re: Snow players invade Wrightwood
« Reply #1385 on: Jan 04, 13, 08:38:50 AM »
The No Parking sign tells it all.

A couple of days ago, I had this conversation with a snowplayer in Jensen's.  He wanted to know if the Adventure Pass would let him park in the No Parking area.  I told him that "No Parking" means no parking, period, same as in the cities below.  Again he asked cashier Liz the same thing.  Again I told him that No Parking means NO PARKING.

Liz asked him whether he wanted to buy an Adventure Pass, $5 for the day.  He said no, he was going to see if they were going to play in the snow anyway.  Then he walked outside.

We live in a different world up here, than those who live in the cities below...

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Re: Snow players invade Wrightwood
« Reply #1386 on: Jan 04, 13, 08:22:10 PM »
Well, here's a little positive message, negating some of the jerks that drive us crazy.  Early this afternoon I was out front trying to get rid of some of the ice in my driveway, the lower slope that is before the main part of the driveway.  I don't know what you call the tool I was using, it's like the size of a hoe but the blade is flat.  Really great for getting under the ice.  Anyway, a lady stopped and asked if I knew the folks across the street, who have an empty lot adjacent to their house, and stated that her family just wanted to throw a couple of snowballs and didn't want to violate any property.  My neighbors are rarely there, and I told her that I was sure they wouldn't mind if they did that in the empty lot, and thanked her for asking first.  She replied that she used to live in Big Bear and is familiar with our frustrations.  They played for a short while, and I was putting down ice melt as they drove away.  She thanked me again.  My street is usually very quiet, not far from town but off the beaten path.  This was heartwarming to me today.  The lady even asked me if she could help with my ice removal!  I declined her kind offer and just got a broom to sweep the chunks of ice to the side.

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Re: Snow players invade Wrightwood
« Reply #1387 on: Jan 04, 13, 10:17:03 PM »
Many of us grew up and have had the privilege of enjoying the pleasures (and the pains) of the snow. I will have to say the seeing the face of a child, a "flatlander", an infant that has experienced his first encounter with that wonderful frozen "white water" or throwing his first snowball... It is priceless. I don't care what race they are.

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Re: Snow players invade Wrightwood
« Reply #1388 on: Jan 05, 13, 04:06:56 AM »
... the size of a hoe but the blade is flat.  Really great for getting under the ice.  ...

A Hula Hoe??   I've broken several on the thousands of rocks on my property. 

I agree that it's nice to be asked.   It shows respect and consideration which is not usually first on many peoples minds.


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Re: Snow players invade Wrightwood
« Reply #1389 on: Jan 05, 13, 07:35:09 AM »
Its not just the snowplayers that can drive you nuts. I lived in Santa Monica and Venice for several decades. We had one of the only driveways on Ocean Ave across from Palisades Park. People thought it was just fine to use it to park. Can't tell you how many cars I  had to have towed.

I guess the trick is to come up with a plan we can advocate to those in charge to minimize the impact on residents. As well as to lure some of these visitors back in the summer months to help the businesses in the community. Cheryl o7o

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Re: Snow players invade Wrightwood
« Reply #1390 on: Jan 06, 13, 03:43:23 PM »
I haven't had non-local snowplayers on my property for a couple of years, until today.  Nice family with 5 or 6 kids sledding down driveways on their boogie boards, and making soda snow cones in the snow in my front yard (thought that one was quite clever).  I hate to chase away people just looking to have fun playing in the snow, but it's just not safe sledding down a steep driveway into the street!  I asked them who they were visiting up here and they said "nobody", they came up from Orange County.  I always ask, just in case they are friends of the neighbors.  I asked them if they were aware that there were designated snow play areas and a tubing park up by mtn high.  They had no idea that there were such places, so, I gave them directions, they packed up, and headed out for better snow and a safer play area. I am convinced, that many city dwelling people don't understand that the entire forest area is not for public play.  They see snow, and believe it's okay to play in it, even if it is someones front yard. Anyhow, I hope that this particular OC family finds a nice place to play in the snow today, and does not just move on down the street to someone else's front yard.

As difficult as it is sometimes to remain patient during snow season with the winter visitors, I agree with forestgal, most are just up here to enjoy what we often take for granted, the beautiful scenery.  We must also remember, that our local merchants rely on the revenue these people bring to town. 

I have lived here for 19 years, and have had my share of wintertime tresspassers.  Most are just nice people with kids excited to play in the snow.  I still don't get how they don't think that there is anything wrong in sledding down your driveway, but I try and give them the benefit of the doubt.  Only once did I have someone get hostile, and that was a man that somehow made it up my steep slick driveway, he yelled and cursed at me because my driveway was not easy to maneuver!  I had to drive his car out for him.  There was also the time someone got their Christmas tree from my yard.  They chopped a nice little spruce down with an axe.  When I asked them why they cut down one of my trees, they said they did not have the money to buy one!  Considering they were yielding an axe, and the damage was already done, I went back inside and locked the doors!  There are some crazy people out there!

Ok, that was my wintertime 2 cents worth on the subject, and just remember, if you get so frustrated with the winter craziness up here that you feel as though you are going to blow your top, you can always stick your head in the snow and cool off! ;)

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Re: Snow players invade Wrightwood
« Reply #1391 on: Jan 08, 13, 06:35:01 PM »
Not much has changed from then... to now...except metropolitan  population and vehicles.


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Re: Snow players invade Wrightwood
« Reply #1392 on: Jan 08, 13, 07:39:23 PM »




Hey look!  The guy in the bottom left is trying the first cell phone and his buddy seems intrigued...  ;)

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Re: Snow players invade Wrightwood
« Reply #1393 on: Jan 09, 13, 07:18:17 AM »
Yarncat. I have posted this before, but every year it bears repeating. We live 1 1/2 mi. in off of Desert Front Road. When the snow is really deep we get visitors. Our 'driveway' is very long, very steep and when pristeen with snow a temptation no child could resist. We came home one day to find a family sledding down the driveway. What they didn't know was the bottom portion and some of the sides had very large boulders barely beneath the snow. My husband was very rude to them and the father pleaded to let his children have some fun sledding, but the injury to  his children and the law suit following was all my husband could imagine.

They were fortunate that no injuries took place.

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Re: Snow players invade Wrightwood
« Reply #1394 on: Jan 09, 13, 11:37:12 AM »
What they didn't know was the bottom portion and some of the sides had very large boulders barely beneath the snow.

Always look before you leap!!!
Years ago when I worked up at mthigh, we always had snowplayers trespassing onto the mountain. One of their favorite spots to sled was the hill behind the Bullwheel off the bottom parking lot.  One day the ambulance came roaring in.  A sledder did not check his path before going down on his saucer.  Right under the snow a piece of re-barb was sticking out from the ground and impaled the guy in his butt....  :o

That'll ruin your day....  :P


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Re: Snow players invade Wrightwood
« Reply #1395 on: Jan 09, 13, 02:11:39 PM »
It amazes me at what people try to get away with only in the mountains.  As if there are a different set of rules here.  Imagine going down to Newport Beach in the summer and stopping in the middle of the road with traffic behind you to take the top of the Jeep because it's sunny out.  Then parking right in front of the "no parking" sign and heading on over to someone's front yard to set up your chairs, towels and coolers.  When those homeowners approach you telling you to leave you say " come on man.  We hardly ever get to see the beach.  Cant we stay ? " 

Umpteen years ago at my dad's house on Thanksgiving right off HWY 2.  We're all at the dinner table eating and see a woman coming to the front door.  We know she saw the ten of us staring at her from the window facing the HWY.  She knocked on the door and asked to use the restroom.  Now we're all for that Wrightwood hospitality but we politely told her to beat it.   

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Re: Snow players invade Wrightwood
« Reply #1396 on: Jan 09, 13, 02:43:19 PM »
Actually .. people do the same thing at the beach. They'll double park in the driving lane.. they'll pull up on sidewalks.. they'll block your driveway .. they'll have sex on your front lawn or in the alley behind your house.  They'll steal anything that isn't bolted down. That's the beach.

A measure of the same thing at the beach in Canada years ago. And, we lived on a private beach.

I do recall the morning I was leaving for work in Venice.. these two scuzzy looking women ran up to me.. I thought to myself.. there ain't no way they're going to use my bathroom.  Then they pulled out their badges. They were undercover to bust the johns in the area and just wanted to let me know they weren't hooking. So, as far as I know.. so far no hookers in WW or anywhere around here.  All to the good.

Trust me.. snowplayers are easier to deal with than hookers. Course, that is easy for me to say since I don't have snowplayers here in P.H. And, as far as I know.. no hookers.  cheryl o7o 

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Re: Snow players invade Wrightwood
« Reply #1397 on: Jan 09, 13, 03:55:47 PM »
Growing up in South Laguna, the summer traffic from the art festivals has always been pretty much like our snowplayer traffic up here.  Only difference is that most don't pull into your driveway and start playing in your yard.   :-)

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Re: Snow players invade Wrightwood
« Reply #1398 on: Jan 10, 13, 10:27:55 PM »
Growing up in South Laguna, the summer traffic from the art festivals has always been pretty much like our snowplayer traffic up here.  Only difference is that most don't pull into your driveway and start playing in your yard.   :-)

Try living in Beautiful Downtown Burbank and having to drive right past Johnny Carson Park right past NBC  when Jay Leno's Tonight Show is letting out about 4:30 or 5:00 pm when coming home from work like I do.  You can tell how popular his guest is but the number of people hanging out by the driveway.  20 or so, nobody too big. 100 people: Kim Kardasian. Hundreds of people: President Obama. 

Every location has it's "trama".   ;D

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Re: Gridlock and snow play craziness
« Reply #1399 on: Jan 12, 13, 08:24:06 AM »
Westbound traffic is backed up on the highway back past Walnut.