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Offline Ultimate Internet Access

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Re: 1 GB FIBER Coming Soon to Wrightwood
« Reply #340 on: Oct 02, 16, 04:00:59 PM »
 Bob C, let me add to Laura's answer regarding power. The laser light at the headend does not need to be repeated anywhere in town. Fiber has amazing qualities.. the laser on single mode can go 24 Miles without the need to to be repeated. There is DB loss along the way with splices but for the town of Wrightwood it just don't need to be repeated so no other electricity is required accept on your end (powering the ONT) and our headend at 1300 Hwy 2.

Generator is not installed yet but it will be in about 60 days. It is all automatic and will kick on with the power goes out at 1300. We have a UPS that will keep it up during the generator start sequence so you will not loose a single packet.

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Re: 1 GB FIBER Coming Soon to Wrightwood
« Reply #341 on: Oct 02, 16, 04:07:31 PM »
If you were with Verizon, what did you do about your email?
GMail and Yahoo have the ability to pick up mail from another service, like Frontier/Verizon.

If you set them up right now to pick up your "old" mail, and answer from your Yahoo or GMail address, your friends will start to learn your new address.

The more time you give people to get used to using the new address, the more likely they are to make the move with you.

I can't give you the exact steps because I use my own mail.

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Re: 1 GB FIBER Coming Soon to Wrightwood
« Reply #342 on: Oct 02, 16, 07:21:21 PM »
Might want to check this out for what do do with your email account.
http://techguylabs.com/episodes/1326/how-can-i-change-my-isp-and-keep-my-email

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Re: 1 GB FIBER Coming Soon to Wrightwood
« Reply #343 on: Oct 03, 16, 05:46:32 PM »
Generator is not installed yet but it will be in about 60 days. It is all automatic and will kick on with the power goes out at 1300. We have a UPS that will keep it up during the generator start sequence so you will not loose a single packet.

Thanks Wes,

I do think it's important for people to understand that if they dump Frontier's phone service, and sign up for VOIP services, you will NOT have phone service if power goes out, unless you have some kind of backup power in your house to power the ONT (and possibly router).


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Re: 1 GB FIBER Coming Soon to Wrightwood
« Reply #344 on: Oct 03, 16, 07:28:35 PM »
Bob C,

On VoIP installs we put in a battery backup for the ONT. It provides about 6 hours of power for the phone in the house.
I actually encourage people to save the money and just use their cell phones, but some people still need a land line.

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Re: 1 GB FIBER Coming Soon to Wrightwood
« Reply #345 on: Oct 03, 16, 07:30:01 PM »
One thing I should have added.. that power backup on the ONT only helps if you have a phone that doesn't use power also.. most people have wireless handsets that also need power..

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Re: 1 GB FIBER Coming Soon to Wrightwood
« Reply #346 on: Oct 03, 16, 09:34:49 PM »
Might want to check this out for what do do with your email account.
http://techguylabs.com/episodes/1326/how-can-i-change-my-isp-and-keep-my-email

Any suggestions on  how to buy your own domain name?

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Re: 1 GB FIBER Coming Soon to Wrightwood
« Reply #347 on: Oct 03, 16, 10:33:02 PM »
Any suggestions on  how to buy your own domain name?
There are literally thousands of domain registrars.  Here is an official list: https://www.icann.org/registrar-reports/accredited-list.html

I've done business with a few, and most of the big names I would avoid like the plague.

You might consider https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hover_(domain_registrar).

I use the wholesale registrar from the same parent company and think fairly highly of them.

Hover will host mail for $20/year. 

Having your own domain means you can move your mail to different hosting if you can't stand the folks running it now.

I know Google can do domain registration, but it all seemed very hidden last time I looked.  I don't think it'd be easy to move a domain if you wanted to do so.  Yahoo looks the same.  I could be wrong on that.

Edit: I don't know if UIA offers hosting, but it's worth asking them.

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Re: 1 GB FIBER Coming Soon to Wrightwood
« Reply #348 on: Oct 04, 16, 10:48:16 AM »
We don't host domains for residential accounts. We just aren't focused on it and it isn't priced right for residential.

I am thinking about opening up wrightwood.net for Wrightwood Fiber customers only. It would make it  possible to have email addresses such as bobc@wrightwood.net for example.

We are in the middle of upgrading our mail server which would make this a possibility.

Regards,

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Re: 1 GB FIBER Coming Soon to Wrightwood
« Reply #349 on: Oct 04, 16, 03:13:43 PM »
Wes,
Having wrightwood.net for emails would be awesome!
Lynn

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Re: 1 GB FIBER Coming Soon to Wrightwood
« Reply #350 on: Oct 04, 16, 03:22:42 PM »
A few questions about the nature of the ONT and the equipment on the customer end. Note: I may get some of my terminology wrong, so please forgive me if something I say doesn't make sense or if I get too wordy...but I'll do my best.

My house is currently wired with Cat5 Ethernet going to almost every room. I currently use Verizon/Frontier DSL. Their DSL Modem doubles as a 4-port router, as well as a wireless router.

So, I take 2 of the outlets from the Modem and wire them into a pair of 8-port gigabit switches to split up the signal and feed the Ethernet ports in my house. As I understand it, a "switch" is a "dumb" device that just passes signals around, while a router assigns addresses to each device, etc.

I think I read somewhere on this thread that the ONT has 4 Ethernet outlet ports.  Does that mean that the ONT does the routing job of assigning addresses, etc. and I'll still be able to use my "dumb" switches to pass Ethernet to the rest of my house?

Also: if I remember correctly from long ago, I used to have a non-wireless DSL Modem that Verizon described as a "1-port router," so even though it had exactly one Ethernet outlet port, it could still assign addresses to multiple computers. When I hooked up an old Linksys wireless router to that, I had to turn off its routing features (I think they called this "bridge mode" but I may be remembering incorrectly). That way, the Linksys wouldn't be trying to set up its own addresses in conflict with addresses assigned by the Modem.  Using that knowledge: if I want to set up wireless from the ONT, will I similarly need to run the wireless "router" in a non-router mode? Or, is there a better option for this purpose?


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Re: 1 GB FIBER Coming Soon to Wrightwood
« Reply #351 on: Oct 04, 16, 05:54:37 PM »
Also: if I remember correctly from long ago, I used to have a non-wireless DSL Modem that Verizon described as a "1-port router," so even though it had exactly one Ethernet outlet port, it could still assign addresses to multiple computers. When I hooked up an old Linksys wireless router to that, I had to turn off its routing features (I think they called this "bridge mode" but I may be remembering incorrectly). That way, the Linksys wouldn't be trying to set up its own addresses in conflict with addresses assigned by the Modem.  Using that knowledge: if I want to set up wireless from the ONT, will I similarly need to run the wireless "router" in a non-router mode? Or, is there a better option for this purpose?


Thank you!
Given what you described, I would treat the ONT exactly like the DSL "modem" in Bridge Mode.  One Cat6 cable from the Linksys to the ONT, and let the router do whatever it is doing now.

The ONT might be able to do everything you want, but having your own router means you can manage your own security.

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Re: 1 GB FIBER Coming Soon to Wrightwood
« Reply #352 on: Oct 04, 16, 07:58:14 PM »

EQC,

Cat5 in your house is the way to go! Congratulations, that investment is now going to pay off.

The ONT is functions much like a modem in that it coverts a signal over one media (laser lightwaves) to Electronic signals (Ethernet). It has other router functions built into it but we don't use it that way. We supply a separate router and has WiFi and 4 separate Ethernet ports built in. We bridge the ONT so that all traffic is transferred to the router unmolested and the router does everything from there. As lwt42 pointed out you can run your own router if you want use it this same exact way.

The ONT's we use do not have WiFi built-in. We have used this type before but we would rather put the ONT just on the inside where we penetrate through the house and extend the WiFi router where it would work best via Ethernet.

Using our router has certain advantages for us (and you by way of faster better support) whereby we can get into the router and diagnose issues.. which are usually WiFi related. Our router can scan frequencies for example so we can tell if there is another device in the home that is interfering with the signal and causing problems.. nice feature that gets the customer up and going without to much of a hassle.

No problem with using your own router though - you are on your own with management and configuring however.


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Re: 1 GB FIBER Coming Soon to Wrightwood
« Reply #353 on: Oct 05, 16, 11:36:16 AM »
A few questions about the nature of the ONT and the equipment on the customer end. Note: I may get some of my terminology wrong, so please forgive me if something I say doesn't make sense or if I get too wordy...but I'll do my best.

My house is currently wired with Cat5 Ethernet going to almost every room. I currently use Verizon/Frontier DSL. Their DSL Modem doubles as a 4-port router, as well as a wireless router.

So, I take 2 of the outlets from the Modem and wire them into a pair of 8-port gigabit switches to split up the signal and feed the Ethernet ports in my house. As I understand it, a "switch" is a "dumb" device that just passes signals around, while a router assigns addresses to each device, etc.

I think I read somewhere on this thread that the ONT has 4 Ethernet outlet ports.  Does that mean that the ONT does the routing job of assigning addresses, etc. and I'll still be able to use my "dumb" switches to pass Ethernet to the rest of my house?

Also: if I remember correctly from long ago, I used to have a non-wireless DSL Modem that Verizon described as a "1-port router," so even though it had exactly one Ethernet outlet port, it could still assign addresses to multiple computers. When I hooked up an old Linksys wireless router to that, I had to turn off its routing features (I think they called this "bridge mode" but I may be remembering incorrectly). That way, the Linksys wouldn't be trying to set up its own addresses in conflict with addresses assigned by the Modem.  Using that knowledge: if I want to set up wireless from the ONT, will I similarly need to run the wireless "router" in a non-router mode? Or, is there a better option for this purpose?


Thank you!

So, I got a few things for you here.  Firstly, switches are actually smart devices that send packets to their intended recipient and therefore need to keep a table that matches IP addresses and MAC (Hardware) addresses.  The dumb devices that you are thinking of might be hubs, which aren't really used in networking anymore.  Hubs used to send every packet out to all connected clients, and then let the clients figure out which one should respond.

Secondly, what you're thinking of as a router is actually, most likely, three devices in one.  Home routers are typically the router part, plus a build-in switch, plus a wireless network access point.  Actually, the device you had from Verizon/Frontier is as described plus the modem part, which, of course, translates the data from one medium (pots lines) to a second (ethernet).  The main purpose of the router part of these devices is to provide Network address translation (NAT) and be a gateway for the other devices on it's LAN.

In this case the ONT will have a switch, but because it's in bridge mode, acting only as a modem, only one port on that switch will be live to the DHCP server which provide connection information (IPs, Subnets and DNS) to the router which is connected to that port.  This can be either your own home router, or the one that UIA provides.

DSL:
Verizon device = modem, router, switch, access point.

UIA:
ONT = modem and switch and router (which will be in bridge mode and thus doing no routing)
Router (possibly Readynet, if you don't have something better that you want to use) = Router (which is routing), switch (to plug your 2 8port switches into), and access point (to try and send wifi to all corners of your home).

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Re: 1 GB FIBER Coming Soon to Wrightwood
« Reply #354 on: Oct 05, 16, 03:53:39 PM »
Thank you everybody for the info/responses.

Just out of curiosity: is UIA's wifi/router part of the "standard install," or is that an extra purchase?



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Re: 1 GB FIBER Coming Soon to Wrightwood
« Reply #355 on: Oct 05, 16, 04:13:18 PM »
Part of the standard install.

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Re: 1 GB FIBER Coming Soon to Wrightwood
« Reply #356 on: Oct 05, 16, 04:14:44 PM »
Part of the standard install.

But a $5/month rental fee, correct?

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Re: 1 GB FIBER Coming Soon to Wrightwood
« Reply #357 on: Oct 05, 16, 04:26:05 PM »
Correct.

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Re: 1 GB FIBER Coming Soon to Wrightwood
« Reply #358 on: Oct 05, 16, 06:51:32 PM »
In this case the ONT will have a switch, but because it's in bridge mode, acting only as a modem, only one port on that switch will be live to the DHCP server which provide connection information (IPs, Subnets and DNS) to the router which is connected to that port.  This can be either your own home router, or the one that UIA provides.
I haven't asked because I'm months from installation (and I need a static IP), but is the address assigned via DHCP, or some other method?

I know I can make whatever work, but I'm curious.

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« Reply #359 on: Oct 05, 16, 08:25:51 PM »
DHCP, yes.

Static = $10 per month.

Regards,

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