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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #620 on: Aug 23, 16, 07:15:39 PM »

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #621 on: Aug 23, 16, 08:31:20 PM »
Expect to smell and see smoke for days! If in doubt call 911

Also you may see what are known as "Dust Devils" that appear to be smoke.

There were Fire Fighter reports of dust devils near Wrightwood today


A dust devil is a strong, well-formed, and relatively long-lived whirlwind


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Donation Scam
« Reply #622 on: Aug 23, 16, 08:43:58 PM »
NO government agency is currently taking Blue Cut fire relief donations!!
No law enforcement or fire agencies are asking. for donations.
This scam is currently under investigation.

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #623 on: Aug 23, 16, 10:00:58 PM »
Is there any information regarding Lone Pine Canyon being open all the way to the 138?

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #624 on: Aug 23, 16, 10:08:14 PM »
Here's a slide show of the some of the amazing fire storms that took place during the Blue Cut Fire.  Check out the ferocity and flame lengths from just brush and chaparral fuel models and imagine in your minds eye what a Crown fire through the timber in Wrightwood would look like and how fast it would move in three directions.  Would you really know when it was time to leave or better, would you have time to get out?

There's another series of photos you can click on to the right of the screen.

http://photos.sbsun.com/2016/08/blue-cut-fire-burning-thru-the-devore-pass-threatens-homes/?_ga=1.178228513.580892290.1470965299#1

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #625 on: Aug 23, 16, 11:17:39 PM »
Lone Pine Canyon is open all the way down now. I took it last night and twice today.

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #626 on: Aug 23, 16, 11:18:15 PM »
Yes Lone Pine Canyon Rd to Hwy 138 is open.
Always the potential for delays while work continues in the burn areas.

Is there any information regarding Lone Pine Canyon being open all the way to the 138?

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #627 on: Aug 23, 16, 11:34:07 PM »
Amazing photos, Jim.  Thanks for sharing.  Wow, how sad. 

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #628 on: Aug 24, 16, 12:04:49 AM »
Yes.. amazing photos and I clicked through all 161 of them.  Some really great photography work by some of those photographers.   cheryl o7o

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #629 on: Aug 24, 16, 01:31:06 AM »
Lone Pine Canyon is open all the way down now. I took it last night and twice today.


Did you see the Johnson ranch?  The other Clyde Ranch? Is it ok?

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #630 on: Aug 24, 16, 03:13:02 AM »
Did you see the Johnson ranch?  The other Clyde Ranch? Is it ok?


I don't know which is the Johnson Ranch but I know that I don't see anything around Clyde Ranch.  I think I always took that area for granted.  I know, as I look at it, that it looks very bare.

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #631 on: Aug 24, 16, 03:37:17 AM »
The place they are speaking of would be West (uphill) from the barn that burned.  There is a dirt driveway (normally with a gate) that runs back to the house.  Normally pretty hidden by brush and trees.

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #632 on: Aug 24, 16, 03:47:52 AM »
The gate Jim is talking about looks like this: https://goo.gl/maps/yx4xMvyu79S2

Note: the old wagon to the left has been gone for a while

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #633 on: Aug 24, 16, 04:09:41 AM »
I saw the gate and dirt driveway and I saw a bunch of trees that looked untouched by the fire. Not sure what was beyond the trees.

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #634 on: Aug 24, 16, 03:02:04 PM »
@ about 2:00 a.m., I was just gazing up at the burned areas from our East Canyon home.  An orange spot began to glow brighter and brighter. I believe that's what is called a "hot spot" ?   

 I watched for at least 10 minutes, it didn't do much but burn, then slowly went out.  Is that something I should call in? It's normal right?   It made me realize that the fire is contained, but hot spots are going to pop up, and we'll most likely see them at night. 

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #635 on: Aug 24, 16, 03:21:16 PM »

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #636 on: Aug 24, 16, 03:26:45 PM »
NASA Satellite Views California's Massive Blue Cut Fire

On Aug. 16, 2016, at around 10:30 a.m., a brush fire ignited in the Cajon Pass east of Los Angeles, just to the west of Interstate 15. Within a matter of hours, extreme temperatures, high winds and low humidity allowed the fire to spread rapidly, burning through brush left tinder-dry by years of drought. By Aug. 17, the fire had expanded dramatically, and firefighters continue to battle to save homes and evacuate residents.

The Multi-angle Imaging SpectroRadiometer (MISR) instrument aboard NASA's Terra satellite passed over the region on Aug. 17 around 11:50 a.m. PDT (2:50 p.m. EDT) and captured this natural-color image from MISR's 70-degree forward-viewing camera, which covers an area about 257 miles (414 kilometers) wide. The oblique view angle makes the smoke more apparent than it would be in a more conventional vertical view. The Los Angeles metropolitan area is the large gray area on the coast in the center of the image. Three plumes from the Blue Cut Fire are clearly visible in the mountains to the north. This oblique view also shows an enormous cloud of smoke spreading northeastward over a significant portion of eastern California and Nevada. This smoke probably originated from the fire as it consumed almost 20,000 acres on the evening of Aug. 16 and traveled north overnight.

Also visible from this oblique view is considerable haziness filling California's Central Valley, to the northwest of the Blue Cut Fire. This haziness may be due to smoke from several other fires burning in California, including the Soberanes Fire near Monterey; the Clayton Fire north of San Francisco; the Chimney Fire; and the Cedar Fire, which is visible in the image in the southern Sierra Nevada.

MISR was built and is managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, California, for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington. The Terra spacecraft is managed by NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Maryland. The MISR data were obtained from the NASA Langley Research Center Atmospheric Science Data Center, Hampton, Virginia. JPL is a division of Caltech in Pasadena.




http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6594


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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #637 on: Aug 24, 16, 04:01:22 PM »

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #638 on: Aug 24, 16, 04:04:21 PM »
@ about 2:00 a.m., I was just gazing up at the burned areas from our East Canyon home.  An orange spot began to glow brighter and brighter. I believe that's what is called a "hot spot" ?   

 I watched for at least 10 minutes, it didn't do much but burn, then slowly went out.  Is that something I should call in? It's normal right?   It made me realize that the fire is contained, but hot spots are going to pop up, and we'll most likely see them at night.

"Hot Spots" are very common and can pop for some time after the fire's spread is contained.  When fires are being contained, firefighters will mop up 100-300 feet inside the line.  The goal is create a big enough cold space where fire can not be seated and move out of the containment/control line.  It is tedious work and done with hand tools, and water.  Fire will burn into a tree root or inside of a crook and just smolder.  A wind change or access to new fuel will make the fire flare.  Inside the burn, they pose little or no threat.  It is a normal part of the process.  It can be quite alarming as a Manzanita flares up and lights up the sky for a brief time.  If you feel uncomfortable, call 911.  If you can see from WW, someone will drive out and check it out.

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Re: Vegetation Fire I15 - Blue Cut Fire
« Reply #639 on: Aug 24, 16, 04:25:45 PM »
It's a good thing if fuels well within the fire perimeter burn completely. That makes it more of a "clean burn" (nothing left to burn), rather than a "dirty burn (lots of unburned stuff inside the fire perimeter).
It's safer when there is nothing left to burn.